Russia preparing for war

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ZNP

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Prior to WWII the Rothschild's bank financed the German miracle to build up Germany as a bulwark against communism in Russia. We now know that Germany's war machine was financed by the West and by European elites. Why? So they could prevent the communists from spreading to Europe. You might think that Hitler's biggest blunder was invading Russia, that wasn't his blunder, that was the direct bidding of his puppet masters.

Why would these bankers who were located in England and Europe and the US finance Germany? Because they make money from war. They made a tremendous amount of money from the allies and they got all the money back that they loaned to Germany, that was the "final solution" taking gold fillings from those they gassed as well as their bank accounts, houses, and other assets.

Well guess what, they have done the same thing again only this time they have financed "the Russian miracle" because the biggest threat to their control of the world is the United States. What carrot are they dangling in front of Russia? If they can destroy America nothing would stop them from becoming the world's policeman. The reason the US has the reserve currency is because you can't buy oil except in US dollars. Russia wants that agreement, you can't buy oil except in Russian rubles. They will ally themselves with Iran and the Muslim brotherhood. After the US left Afghanistan they have a tremendously well supplied army.

Buckle up, here comes the Gog/Magog army.
I think it is important to bring the first post forward to remind everyone what this thread was focused on. The question was not whether or not Russia was going to invade Ukraine, that was a given expressed in the conclusion "Buckle up, here comes the Gog/Magog army". No, the question was why. Not why Russia will invade but rather why the global elites would finance this war and want this war.

Why would the global elites finance this war?

Let's be real, everything Biden and the globalists have done have helped to finance and provoke this action by Putin. He has basically doubled the price of oil, made Germany beholden to Putin, and threatened Russia's existence.

So then, why, what do they hope to accomplish. Yes, this will ultimately pit the US vs Russia and allow them to destroy the one major impediment to globalism, the US. Yes, they will make money hand over fist by loaning the billions and billions that are spent on this war. Please note, almost immediately the US and Europe pledged money and arms to Ukraine, those are loans that that the globalists will profit from.

But the other thing we need to see is they don't care about death and destruction. As long as the death and destruction is not theirs. Destruction results in more loans for rebuilding which puts people more in debt and more in their chains of servitude. Death accomplishes their goal of world population at 500 million. Think of the global elites as the slitherin 1% that get the 45% to fight against the 45%. Doesn't really matter who wins because they will both lose and the real winner will be the 1% who is not fighting.

But there is a goal to all this, how do you get people to accept one world government, in fact how do you get people to beg for one world government? You start a war and then you promise them peace and security if they will take the one world government. The "cure" is what they wanted to administer all along, but first they need to create a crisis where people will call for that cure.

Also, how do you provoke Russia to attack the US? You have to back them into a corner where Russia feels they must fight or die. Cancelling SWIFT will do that to Russia. The only way Russia can overcome this is to seize control of the Mid East, then the Ruble will be the reserve currency and Russia will control SWIFT. You can't do that unless you attack the US and take them out of the equation, and then you need to align with a whole bunch of Islamic nations in an alliance to defeat Israel. That is the Gog/Magog army.

The sanctions are designed, not to deter a conflict but to make it essential for Russia to fight to the death and bring down the US and a whole bunch of Islamic nations and Israel. The end of the age is the master plan of the Globalists to seize world wide dominion.
 

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My question is: Why have the true soldiers allowed the generals and the Secretary of Defense to destroy the military and done absolutely nothing about it? Why have they not arrested these traitors and tried them under military law? Why have they not absolutely refused to be sent to Europe? If all the soldiers would lay down their arms and demand the immediately resignation of their phony, incompetent, and treasonous Commander-in-Chief then things would turn out differently.

And if he refused to resign, they would arrest him and his Secretary of Defense for treason. The Afghanistan fiasco is sufficient. But the Wokeism and the CRT indoctrination in the military can all be added to the charges. Where are all the real soldiers hiding when America is in jeopardy from within?
Who are the true soldiers? Who has the power to arrest a president? For sure not the military. If you want democracy, then you do not give ultimate power to the military. No General is elected. You might remember that Biden was voted in, like it or not. You can vote him out next election.

The real problem is the failure of the church to engage in spiritual warfare and to seek God's kingdom first. Get that right and God's blessing will be restored. I predicted the decline of the USA years ago. I'm not a prophet, I just know spiritual principles. Every time the nation of Israel turned away from idolatry and turned to God, they were blessed. When they turned away, they came under God's curse.
 

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I started this thread to discuss Russia preparing for war and how that fit into the Global elites plan to get one world government.

To claim that we cannot talk about Ukraine being a corrupt dictatorship without also talking about Trump seems like a pathetic attempt to change the subject. This is not a thread about how all governments are corrupt, nor is this about Trump. You seem to have Trump delusion syndrome in which every subject somehow must be tied to Trump. Seems amazing that Russia could begin a war at your doorstep and you are still caught up in this TDS more than a year after Trump left office. Have you considered counseling?
Are you joking? Russia is not on my doorstep. And till one day before Putin attacked the Ukraine with war he was lying to the Western leaders not to make war.
And it is significant to see that Putin in his person is not much different to Trump. Its the same type of selfloving and to do everything what they want.
This has nothing to do with TDS. It is only an observation.
 

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Are you joking? Russia is not on my doorstep. And till one day before Putin attacked the Ukraine with war he was lying to the Western leaders not to make war.
And it is significant to see that Putin in his person is not much different to Trump. Its the same type of selfloving and to do everything what they want.
This has nothing to do with TDS. It is only an observation.
Yes, I am joking*. Saying that the pandemic was a bioweapon and the start of a war for the globalists to take over was a joke. Saying that Russia would invade the Ukraine was a joke. Saying that this was the start of the Gog/Magog war that will usher in the tribulation is a joke. Saying that Russia will not stop with Ukraine but will "devour much flesh" and saying that refers to Poland and Europe is a joke. Saying that this war in Ukraine will result in inflation going to the next level and famine spreading across the globe is a joke.

*Please note that as many words have had their meaning changed so that good is evil and evil is good I also have changed the meaning of joke from something that is supposed to be funny to something that is a true fulfillment of God's word where God has the unbelievers in derision. So then Joke = Truth.

And as you can make irrelevant observations about Trump designed to distract and change the subject I also will make observations about your credibility and sanity. You still haven't answered my question, have you sought professional help to deal with your TDS?
 

shittim

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We get good info from Newsmax, the ccp controlled msm won't do an honest job.
We know scripture speaks of the end "coming as a flood", perhaps all the events foretold will happen very quickly and His return will be very, very, soon.
Thank you brother Dan
 
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Russia has put their nuclear arsenal on high alert...I suppose that's Trump's fault, too.
 

ZNP

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We get good info from Newsmax, the ccp controlled msm won't do an honest job.
We know scripture speaks of the end "coming as a flood", perhaps all the events foretold will happen very quickly and His return will be very, very, soon.
Thank you brother Dan
Yes, I think this verse likens the end coming to the dam bursting. I suspect when China attacks Taiwan that Taiwan will blow up the 3 gorges dam which will flood the Yangtze river basin where 500 million people live, the heart of China's industry.

I think this is what Revelation 12 refers to about the dragon spewing a flood out of his mouth.

But we can expect worldwide this "flood" to impact the entire world just like the catastrophic bursting of a dam.
 

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Yes, I am joking*. Saying that the pandemic was a bioweapon and the start of a war for the globalists to take over was a joke. Saying that Russia would invade the Ukraine was a joke. Saying that this was the start of the Gog/Magog war that will usher in the tribulation is a joke. Saying that Russia will not stop with Ukraine but will "devour much flesh" and saying that refers to Poland and Europe is a joke. Saying that this war in Ukraine will result in inflation going to the next level and famine spreading across the globe is a joke.

*Please note that as many words have had their meaning changed so that good is evil and evil is good I also have changed the meaning of joke from something that is supposed to be funny to something that is a true fulfillment of God's word where God has the unbelievers in derision. So then Joke = Truth.

And as you can make irrelevant observations about Trump designed to distract and change the subject I also will make observations about your credibility and sanity. You still haven't answered my question, have you sought professional help to deal with your TDS?
Thank you for your concern about having TDS. That you suggest me to suffer under TDS shows me how serious I have to take your post. Thank you brother!
 

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ZNP-
I didn't relate that scripture to the dam in China, but nearly every time we think God will do something one way, He does it another, like the verse of how He "confounds the wise".
Instead of our "either/ or" type thinking, His is often, "both and more".
The dam does have a nasty bend in it, we can be sure it wasn't designed this way and could very well be a warning.
 

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ZNP-
I didn't relate that scripture to the dam in China, but nearly every time we think God will do something one way, He does it another, like the verse of how He "confounds the wise".
Instead of our "either/ or" type thinking, His is often, "both and more".
The dam does have a nasty bend in it, we can be sure it wasn't designed this way and could very well be a warning.
The 3 gorges looks like the biology of a woman's womb, so the bursting of this dam could be like the "breaking of the water", another term for a woman's water breaking is "rapture".
 

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You still haven't answered my question, have you sought professional help to deal with your TDS?
Funny how you like to see yourself on the vanguard of promoting hard truths,
yet if someone says something you don't like about Trump, they have a syndrome
that requires professional help. You damage your credibility doing that. No matter

how much anyone may want to idolize Trump, he is not above being criticized.
 
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If you take politics out of the equation.... all you're left with is billions of people trying to do the best they can with what they're given, while being subjugated by a handful of a-holes and their armies who claim ownership of the world.

People are generally the same no matter where you go. People generally just want to live and let live. People don't even have the collective authority to wage war... only governments do.

The Bible says people should pray for their leaders... Perhaps we get the leaders we deserve.
 

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Funny how you like to see yourself on the vanguard of promoting hard truths,
yet if someone says something you don't like about Trump, they have a syndrome
that requires professional help. You damage your credibility doing that. No matter

how much anyone may want to idolize Trump, he is not above being criticized.
I don't care if you like Trump or you don't like Trump. I don't disagree that Trump is filled with faults nor do I have an issue with those who think he was a great president. Either way you are in a different realm than I am in.

We are in an age where Baal is being worshipped, where evil is good and good is evil. This is not because of Trump, you can't blame him for the world worshipping Baal nor can you blame him for not bringing in a revival where the whole world turns to the Lord. So as far as I am concerned he is simply another man's servant. It is not for me to judge another man's servant.

My focus is on speaking the truth that might bring people to repentance and turning to the Lord Jesus. There is no salvation in any name other than Jesus.

We are now in free fall. People were clueless when they voted in Biden. People were clueless when they ignored the election fraud and the lies and the censorship and the corruption of leaders like Fauci and a Bioweapon. They were clueless when they went along with shutting down the economy in order to bankrupt the middle class. They directed the entire economy to the tech giants like Amazon.com and they took it away from the backbone of democracy, and yet the whole world went along with this? Seriously, you can go into a big box store like Costco but a little 5 and dime store cannot have 3 people inside? They go along with all the churches being shut down but the Casinos staying open? Fine, everyone going along with this is nothing but a blatant liar and their hypocrisy is on display for all to see.

Well there are consequences for choosing a murderer over the Lord of Life. Russia invading Ukraine is one consequence. More people coming across our border each month than went into Europe on D day is another consequence. Worldwide inflation is a third consequence. Embarrassing defeat in Afghanistan is yet another consequence. But know this, things do not get better, they get worse. Russia does not stop with Ukraine, Iran and Russia and a whole bunch of Islamic nations will attack Israel, China will attack Taiwan and the global elites will be happy.

They will be happy as people die and world population approaches their goal of 500 million.

They will be happy with the destruction that will require a rebuilding and a borrowing that will make them even more powerful.

They will be happy when the whole world begs them for a powerful world leader that will bring peace and security and so the world will beg for the AntiChrist.

Every action has a consequence, and we are now in an age of consequences.

Many believers will wake up to this when they are faced with choosing between worshipping the beast or having their head cut off. Consequences.

Proverbs 1:20
Wisdom crieth aloud in the street;
She uttereth her voice in the broad places;
21 She crieth [g]in the chief place of concourse;
At the entrance of the gates,
In the city, she uttereth her words:
22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity?
And scoffers delight them in scoffing,
And fools hate knowledge?
23 Turn you at my reproof:
Behold, I will pour out my spirit upon you;
I will make known my words unto you.
24 Because I have called, and ye have refused;
I have stretched out my hand, and no man hath regarded;
25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel,
And would none of my reproof:
26 I also will laugh in the day of your calamity;
I will mock when your fear cometh;
27 When your fear cometh as [h]a storm,
And your calamity cometh on as a whirlwind;
When distress and anguish come upon you.
28 Then will they call upon me, but I will not answer;
They will seek me [i]diligently, but they shall not find me:
29 For that they hated knowledge,
And did not choose the fear of Jehovah,
30 They would none of my counsel,
They despised all my reproof.
31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way,
And be filled with their own devices.
32 For the backsliding of the simple shall slay them,
And the careless ease of fools shall destroy them.
33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell securely,

And shall be quiet without fear of evil.
 

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Everything is taken out of the equation when we come to accept the Scripture that we wage war not against the flesh, but against principalities and powers.

All He tells will happen, will indeed happen, none of us were given the gift of life in order that we might live to ourselves, we must all earn crowns to lay at His feet.
blessings
 

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I don't care if you like Trump or you don't like Trump. I don't disagree that Trump is filled with faults nor do I have an issue with those who think he was a great president. Either way you are in a different realm than I am in.
I don't care if you like Trump or you don't like Trump. I don't disagree that Trump is filled with faults nor do I have an issue with those who think he was a great president. So how exactly am I in a different realm than you are in this regard?
 

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This world is not our home, we are here to do His good will in Jesus name and then go home, and it is looking like sooner rather than later, Amir Tsarfati spoke of the large amount of Iranian military goods and troops entering syria, another player in the Ezekiel 38 war, for the first time in history with a strong military presence and the prophetic word on where it will be used.