Childish posters.

[RichMan]

I decided to post this here because this is where I believe it is most present.
All of us have probably had to deal with childish behavior in fellow believers just as others have had to deal with our childish behavior.
This is a place where we come to discuss and even debate the many different beliefs that are present in the religious world. Many we agree with, many we do not.
It seems very childish to me for a person to suggest that a teaching they disagree with should not be discussed and even banned from this forum. I believe it is also very childish for a person to suggest that a person be banned because they feel offended by that person. I will also ad to put some one on ignore is childish in my opinion.
This is a tough world and is going to become even more so very soon and we as believer need to grow up and stop with the childish behavior.
Just my opinion brothers.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

I respect each of your ideas; I certainly wouldn't try to convince you to do otherwise.

I use the Ignore option out of respect, believe it or not. I believe that it is wrong to not reply to people when they address you, therefore when I place a persistent and disruptive soul on the Ignore list, I tell them before I do it. In this way, they will know that if in the future, I do not respond to them, they will know why.

I don't resort to the tool necessarily as punishment, but to make a point. Also, I have pre-chosen a day at some point that I have used over the years, to remove each person from that list. Why? Because just as the Lord has forgiven me, I forgive all others for their transgression. Just as the Lord has changed me, all people are available to that Holy Change as well, thus it is critical (to me) that all people be given a second, third, fourth, fight . . . 77 times 7 chances to have received a Changed Heart, a Holy Work produced by the Spirit.

So again, I place people on the Ignore list and let them know out of respect. I find it to be incredibly rude to know that I am not on someones Ignore list, yet they refuse to address me. THAT . . . I find to be incredibly rude and immature.

What do you think of Paul teaching that we "cast the dust off of our sandals" when someone won't listen? Or, his teaching of having nothing to do with people who create chaos and division?

 

[studentoftheword]

There is such a thing as a Critical Spirit -----and many of us have it ---so the question is how do we over come the temptation to be critical of others -----

This is from Got Questions ----Read all for yourselves --I am just posting this part -----

https://www.gotquestions.org/critical-spirit.html

So how do we overcome a critical spirit? The condition of our heart is crucial. Luke 6:45 says, "The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks." Critical words spring from a critical heart. And a critical heart generally comes from a misunderstanding of God’s grace—either due to pride or a simple lack of information about God’s character and the meaning of salvation. Only when we understand our depravity apart from God and the depth of His grace will we be able to bestow grace to others (Romans 3:23; 6:23; Colossians 2:13-15; Ephesians 2:1-10). Those who struggle with a critical spirit know that they can never live up to their own standards. They are constantly judging others and themselves and always coming up lacking. But Christ fills this lack! He is perfect and righteous, and He freely grants that righteousness to those who believe in Him (2 Corinthians 5:21). The better we understand God’s grace, the more gracious we will be with others (1 Peter 2:1-3). And the more grateful we will be. The giving of thanks is a strong antidote to a critical spirit.

 

[RichMan]

I respect each of your ideas; I certainly wouldn't try to convince you to do otherwise.

I use the Ignore option out of respect, believe it or not. I believe that it is wrong to not reply to people when they address you, therefore when I place a persistent and disruptive soul on the Ignore list, I tell them before I do it. In this way, they will know that if in the future, I do not respond to them, they will know why.

I don't resort to the tool necessarily as punishment, but to make a point. Also, I have pre-chosen a day at some point that I have used over the years, to remove each person from that list. Why? Because just as the Lord has forgiven me, I forgive all others for their transgression. Just as the Lord has changed me, all people are available to that Holy Change as well, thus it is critical (to me) that all people be given a second, third, fourth, fight . . . 77 times 7 chances to have received a Changed Heart, a Holy Work produced by the Spirit.

So again, I place people on the Ignore list and let them know out of respect. I find it to be incredibly rude to know that I am not on someones Ignore list, yet they refuse to address me. THAT . . . I find to be incredibly rude and immature.

What do you think of Paul teaching that we "cast the dust off of our sandals" when someone won't listen? Or, his teaching of having nothing to do with people who create chaos and division?

A mature reply. Thanks
There comes a time when I will no longer discuss or debate a subject or with a person.
When I make that decision I will tell everyone.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I decided to post this here because this is where I believe it is most present.
All of us have probably had to deal with childish behavior in fellow believers just as others have had to deal with our childish behavior.
This is a place where we come to discuss and even debate the many different beliefs that are present in the religious world. Many we agree with, many we do not.
It seems very childish to me for a person to suggest that a teaching they disagree with should not be discussed and even banned from this forum. I believe it is also very childish for a person to suggest that a person be banned because they feel offended by that person. I will also ad to put some one on ignore is childish in my opinion.
This is a tough world and is going to become even more so very soon and we as believer need to grow up and stop with the childish behavior.
Just my opinion brothers.

If you read de-emerald's thread on OSAS, which I believe you're addressing, the original post questions why OSAS is allowed but doctrines like hyper-grace aren't. You must remember, hyper-grace technically is banned. If this were not the case, thread's like the one de-emerald started wouldn't be necessary.

 

[RichMan]

If you read de-emerald's thread on OSAS, which I believe you're addressing, the original post questions why OSAS is allowed but doctrines like hyper-grace aren't. You must remember, hyper-grace technically is banned. If this were not the case, thread's like the one de-emerald started wouldn't be necessary.

It is not so much the subject, it is how some deal with those who disagree with their belief.
There are certain subjects that will always cause heated debates and if you decide to join in, be prepared. Know what you are talking about. Don't make false accusations. Don't judge all by the actions of the few.
Be mature and don't start whining about being offended.

 

[Dino246]

What do you think of Paul teaching that we "cast the dust off of our sandals" when someone won't listen? Or, his teaching of having nothing to do with people who create chaos and division?

Generally, I agree with your post, though I don't use the Ignore function as I think it's the wrong tool for the purpose you describe.

As for creating chaos and division, that passage is grossly overused, and usually by two specific groups of people: those who caused the problem in the first place, such as a pastor who is teaching falsely and uses it against those who rebuke him; and those who hold a particular viewpoint and can't handle the idea that others hold a conflicting viewpoint while also being Christians.

So, instead of wielding a club that can be used against you just as easily, just put down the club, and leave it to those who are appointed to use it.

 

[CharliRenee]

I respect each of your ideas; I certainly wouldn't try to convince you to do otherwise.

I use the Ignore option out of respect, believe it or not. I believe that it is wrong to not reply to people when they address you, therefore when I place a persistent and disruptive soul on the Ignore list, I tell them before I do it. In this way, they will know that if in the future, I do not respond to them, they will know why.

I don't resort to the tool necessarily as punishment, but to make a point. Also, I have pre-chosen a day at some point that I have used over the years, to remove each person from that list. Why? Because just as the Lord has forgiven me, I forgive all others for their transgression. Just as the Lord has changed me, all people are available to that Holy Change as well, thus it is critical (to me) that all people be given a second, third, fourth, fight . . . 77 times 7 chances to have received a Changed Heart, a Holy Work produced by the Spirit.

So again, I place people on the Ignore list and let them know out of respect. I find it to be incredibly rude to know that I am not on someones Ignore list, yet they refuse to address me. THAT . . . I find to be incredibly rude and immature.

What do you think of Paul teaching that we "cast the dust off of our sandals" when someone won't listen? Or, his teaching of having nothing to do with people who create chaos and division?

I haven't read all your comment. I just got, so far, to the point in not being responded to when a person was specifically addressed..

I remembered that I had forgotten to respond the other day.

I didn't, if you remember, lol. Bless my poor memory sometimes. I wanted to tell you, though, that sometimes I don't respond because I am asked why I allow or don't allow something.

The truth is because I only have staff on my screen name, so I can do a little chore to help. I am merely a volunteer, nothing more. I have no allowing or disallowing, lol, power!! I am quite grateful for not having that responsibility.

When users are going at eachother, I leave it up to them to hopefully come to an agreement, even if the agreement is just to agree to disagree and move forward in another direction.

I will go back to reading but I am sorry for not responding and tbh, I have no idea anymore where that post was. I use to try and fix stuff, but found I only created more problems, so now I put it in the hands of my Lord and His Spirit. I pray for the true admins here, and the users on the site.

 

[RichMan]

There are certain subjects that are debated that do not deal with a person's eternal soul that I will state my belief, that is often in the minority, and then move on because I believe I can not change anyone's mind on the subject.
But when a person brings up the subject of salvation, and states a belief that I feel will lead a person, not to salvation, but to a false hope based on the wrong person, I must speak up.
When a person uses a very broad brush by judging all by the actions of a few, I must speak up.
Hopefully I will do so in a mature and understandable way and hopefully others will do the same and not act in a childish way.

 

[Dino246]

@justbyfaith, could you please explain why you put a "Boring" icon on my post?

 

[CS1]

There are certain subjects that are debated that do not deal with a person's eternal soul that I will state my belief, that is often in the minority, and then move on because I believe I can not change anyone's mind on the subject.
But when a person brings up the subject of salvation, and states a belief that I feel will lead a person, not to salvation, but to a false hope based on the wrong person, I must speak up.
When a person uses a very broad brush by judging all by the actions of a few, I must speak up.
Hopefully I will do so in a mature and understandable way and hopefully others will do the same and not act in a childish way.

I agree with what you are saying, however, Paul did not deal with trolls on the net. The word of God says we are to avoid and flee from such false teachings. In addition, CC has no pastor nor statement of faith. The founder is a Christian and so are the Admin & moderators. This site is very long-suffering and has allowed every kind of discussion from tongues to sexual gratification. It is when they take a mean and abuse attacking form things happen.

People make reports all the time. Just because they were not agreed with biblically asking to ban them for name-calling yet they did not tell admin the name-calling they did. Admin cannot go through or monitor every thread at the same time. impossible.

Start any thread post you like. ones that are not allowed I can ensure you were allowed at one time but do not produce anything edifying.

 

[CS1]

There are certain subjects that are debated that do not deal with a person's eternal soul that I will state my belief, that is often in the minority, and then move on because I believe I can not change anyone's mind on the subject.
But when a person brings up the subject of salvation, and states a belief that I feel will lead a person, not to salvation, but to a false hope based on the wrong person, I must speak up.
When a person uses a very broad brush by judging all by the actions of a few, I must speak up.
Hopefully I will do so in a mature and understandable way and hopefully others will do the same and not act in a childish way.

for example your post here. You said something that would cause a negative response or more of a challenge to your comments.

1. You used no biblical reference for your belief or opinion.
2. You have a presupposition you are in the minority and will not stick around to hear what over have to say.
"then move on because I believe I can not change anyone's mind"

that's going to be a problem. One it is not polite to pass gas and leave the room. 2. many here with strong personalities will eat this up and scoff at you for it.


you have an obligation to hear others even if you don't like what they say. IF not pick a different thread and do not post in the BIBLE study Forum. There are those who will disagree and do so admittedly.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

I haven't read all your comment. I just got, so far, to the point in not being responded to when a person was specifically addressed..

I remembered that I had forgotten to respond the other day.

I didn't, if you remember, lol. Bless my poor memory sometimes. I wanted to tell you, though, that sometimes I don't respond because I am asked why I allow or don't allow something.

The truth is because I only have staff on my screen name, so I can do a little chore to help. I am merely a volunteer, nothing more. I have no allowing or disallowing, lol, power!! I am quite grateful for not having that responsibility.

When users are going at eachother, I leave it up to them to hopefully come to an agreement, even if the agreement is just to agree to disagree and move forward in another direction.

I will go back to reading but I am sorry for not responding and tbh, I have no idea anymore where that post was. I use to try and fix stuff, but found I only created more problems, so now I put it in the hands of my Lord and His Spirit. I pray for the true admins here, and the users on the site.

Wow. You just blew me away. Yes, I think about your not responding each day . . . it was to a thread that was ultimately closed; it was regarding Kris Wampler. For you to come back and respond now . . . this is remarkably impressive. I know that you are busy, so for you to do as you have done, now, is amazing (to me).

I follow you for three reasons:

1) Staff is next to your name
2) You give out virtual NO negative emojis - In my opinion, and it appears that you agree too, those who dole out those negative emojis are, well, negative
3) I really appreciate the softness; the gentleness in your words. My friend, this is a Blessing from God! So, I encourage you to do this more, and more and more.

Just this morning I was thinking of you. In fact, I usually do. Why? Because whether you realize it or not, your presence has influence, and I was thinking of how I was about to draw your attention to a Poster who is currently harassing me. My hope is that by using your presence, this person might leave me alone (showing the world what it means to be mature) BEFORE I place them on the Ignore list.

Thank you, and I appreciate you. Much respect.

 

[tourist]

My personal opinion is that everyone is entitled to their own personal opinion as well. No one should be banned because there perception is contrary to someone else's opinion. No one should be treated disrespectful regardless of what their opinion may be.

 

[RichMan]

for example your post here. You said something that would cause a negative response or more of a challenge to your comments.

1. You used no biblical reference for your belief or opinion.
2. You have a presupposition you are in the minority and will not stick around to hear what over have to say.
"then move on because I believe I can not change anyone's mind"

that's going to be a problem. One it is not polite to pass gas and leave the room. 2. many here with strong personalities will eat this up and scoff at you for it.


you have an obligation to hear others even if you don't like what they say. IF not pick a different thread and do not post in the BIBLE study Forum. There are those who will disagree and do so admittedly.

Maybe I was not clear which is not uncommon for me.
I do listen and read many post I do not respond to.
Because I read many post, It can become clear very soon what the majority belief is and I may join in and sometimes I will just state my minority belief and then move on so as not to be a part of a heated debate that changes no one's mind.
No condemning those who do, I just prefer not to do so.
This is an open forum and I believe everyone should be free to say and post any subject they wish.
I believe all should be free to respond to all post.
But I also belief all should act as mature Christian adults and not whine and complain like children when they are disagreed with or a subject they dislike or disapprove of is discussed.
Let the Mod's decide what and who is not appropriate.
Thanks for your response and suggestions.

 

[CS1]

Maybe I was not clear which is not uncommon for me.
I do listen and read many post I do not respond to.
Because I read many post, It can become clear very soon what the majority belief is and I may join in and sometimes I will just state my minority belief and then move on so as not to be a part of a heated debate that changes no one's mind.
No condemning those who do, I just prefer not to do so.
This is an open forum and I believe everyone should be free to say and post any subject they wish.
I believe all should be free to respond to all post.
But I also belief all should act as mature Christian adults and not whine and complain like children when they are disagreed with or a subject they dislike or disapprove of is discussed.
Let the Mod's decide what and who is not appropriate.
Thanks for your response and suggestions.

I am not disagreeing with you just something I have done personally and have seen in this thread.

 

[justbyfaith]

@justbyfaith, could you please explain why you put a "Boring" icon on my post?

See Proverbs 26:4-5.

I decided that I wanted to be like you.

 

[Dino246]

See Proverbs 26:4-5.

I decided that I wanted to be like you.

Scripture is not an appropriate answer to my question, and your comment is not relevant either.

Once again, why did you post a "Boring" icon on my post?

 

[Runningman]

I decided to post this here because this is where I believe it is most present.
All of us have probably had to deal with childish behavior in fellow believers just as others have had to deal with our childish behavior.
This is a place where we come to discuss and even debate the many different beliefs that are present in the religious world. Many we agree with, many we do not.
It seems very childish to me for a person to suggest that a teaching they disagree with should not be discussed and even banned from this forum. I believe it is also very childish for a person to suggest that a person be banned because they feel offended by that person. I will also ad to put some one on ignore is childish in my opinion.
This is a tough world and is going to become even more so very soon and we as believer need to grow up and stop with the childish behavior.
Just my opinion brothers.

For sure I agree 100%. I come from a hardline free speech background. I believe people should be able to say pretty much anything even if it’s wrong. I don’t think we should attempt to regulate anything or block people. I firmly believe no one is unreachable or beyond our influence because anything is possible with God, amen?

Now I know most people aren’t where I’m at. I think we’re all at different stages of maturity and that’s okay, too, but can we agree that we should always make every attempt to love one another even if we disagree and/or fight?

 

[justbyfaith]

Scripture is not an appropriate answer to my question, and your comment is not relevant either.

Once again, why did you post a "Boring" icon on my post?

Scripture is always an appropriate answer to any question.