The Wider Mercy #1 The Missing Bride
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Yes. Faith without works is dead. But that is not salvation by works, it is more like fruit of salvation.
Jesus did indeed give us enough parables to paint a proper picture that when He comes back many will not be able to enter in who think they qualify because of their mental assent and because they once voted "yes for Jesus theology" will not be accepted as true faith.
Jesus did indeed give us enough parables to paint a proper picture that when He comes back many will not be able to enter in who think they qualify because of their mental assent and because they once voted "yes for Jesus theology" will not be accepted as true faith.
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I am afraid I am out of your teachings. a) there were no chapter breaks in the original scriptures b) it has been shown that the parable of the 10 virgins is a continuation of the warning of the Lord to be ready and a good steward. Which continues on into the 25 chapter. If you would go to the recommended starting point in the previous and listen you may just hear all that you were intended to . Nothing more nothing less, Evmur. Rather than breaking down lamps, virgins, etc. Don't camp there or use it as a segway to "/wider mercy. Don't add to the Word, however unintentionally . This parable is not a doctrine. Nor designed to be fit into any other context than a continuation or further expounding of the Lord on the difference of being ready and not being ready which began in the previous chapter. If it fits into your theology , honestly I don't care because it wasn't meant to. In the previous chapter one shall be taken one left one shall be taken one left , you know not the hour, be ready. This parable was never intended to be other that exactly what the Lord was saying In his teaching . I am not sure you have ever been clear as to what the Lord was saying here. Go back 10 scriptures from the parable and forward 10 scriptures. Trust that Gods Word is The Authority . And is forever settled in Heaven. You are missing the Lord Jesus testimony by trying to expand its place in scripture. It has nada to do with a wider mercy nada . nada All He requires is that you Love mercy , do justly and walk humbly with your God. The Word of God is profitable for doctrine for correction for instruction in righteousness. Let it correct you, read what Lord is saying as underlined above .
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I am well aware of what the story is teaching "not designed to be fitted into any other context" eh, you are sure of that. Most folks see God's word as being multi-aspect.
... to be ready ,,, the question is WHO is being warned to be ready. The bride? no, because this return of the groom is after the marriage and on the way to the wedding feast. God doesn't just pluck stuff out of the air to illustrate the truth even in parables. Every illustration represents doctrinal truth.
... to be ready ,,, the question is WHO is being warned to be ready. The bride? no, because this return of the groom is after the marriage and on the way to the wedding feast. God doesn't just pluck stuff out of the air to illustrate the truth even in parables. Every illustration represents doctrinal truth.
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I don't see goat nations . Just goats . In Matthew 25. The Great White throne Judgement . The lost are coughed up from hell they are already there. To stand before The Lord The goats are cursed and cast into a lake of fire. Since his sheep will be with Him ruling and reigning with Him it won't go un-noticed by us. Know ye not that the saints shall judge the world , that we shall judge angels?
Bema Judgement Seat is for the Sheep , rewards and losses is a good way to put it. Gold , Silver, Precious stones, wood , hay , stubble . Every mans' work will be tried with fire. So we may have big loads of works , but the fire will try every mans work of what sort it is. Poof... I don't have a chronology only that The Great White Throne Judgment is not mine the Bema is . Chronolgy . Just knowing I am not going to be on the left hand with the goats at the Great White Throne Judgement is enough me . I'll let the theologians figure out the chronolgy .
I don't see goat nations . Just goats . In Matthew 25. The Great White throne Judgement . The lost are coughed up from hell they are already there. To stand before The Lord The goats are cursed and cast into a lake of fire. Since his sheep will be with Him ruling and reigning with Him it won't go un-noticed by us. Know ye not that the saints shall judge the world , that we shall judge angels?
Bema Judgement Seat is for the Sheep , rewards and losses is a good way to put it. Gold , Silver, Precious stones, wood , hay , stubble . Every mans' work will be tried with fire. So we may have big loads of works , but the fire will try every mans work of what sort it is. Poof... I don't have a chronology only that The Great White Throne Judgment is not mine the Bema is . Chronolgy . Just knowing I am not going to be on the left hand with the goats at the Great White Throne Judgement is enough me . I'll let the theologians figure out the chronolgy .
Brohamus you need to stop majoring in minors. Read 24 and 25 again . That's the version. You corrected me on the oil . They were in the lamps. I doubt that will happen again. I don't use anything but the KJV I am not going anywhere trying to get people to know anything other than what saith the scriptures. As the disciples at Berea search the scriptures daily to see if these things were so. I don't need my own understanding. I need The Living God. Curiosity is good . But what pleases the Lord ? What are His priorites ? God is light and in Him is no darkness at all . He lays it out like a shining light that gets brighter and brighter. No need to make a simple thing complex. Thank God I never got into theology. You don't need another man to interpret for you . One of the Greatest if not the greatest priviledge is to know the Holy Spirit and His ministry in a personal way. He wrote the Book. And it points to a personal relationship with God. The Word of God, By Him all things consist. The pursuit of knowledge without a deep intimacy with Christ is not where the Bible is meant to lead us. Anyway from one grouchy old man to another. I have to say, I challenge you to stay in context with scripture going scripture and verse and believe that The Word of God is the final authority. Cause if the Bible don't say so , and you don't reference the correct scripture in context . You will be pursuing the wind . What does the Bible say ? You are a minister of reconcilation , what should your priority be , "We aim to lead me to Christ". Charles Haddon Spurgeon. Let God be God
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Who is he warning ?? Who is he warning ?? Who can read the Bible and understand it ?. Is it not true that the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God.? He is warning you. He is warning me. He is warning His people. Until one is Born Again the Bible is encrypted the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God neither can he know them . I read the Bible without understanding prior to conversion. It was not possible that I could understand it . Until the author took up residence in me. Do you believe the Bible is the final authority. ? I am not most folks.
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Are you saying only christians understand the words "do unto others as you would have them do unto you?" or even simple words like "repent" or "Jesus is Lord?"
They may not believe them or obey them but they do understand them.
By the way this is a blog, I deliberately chose to post it here to avoid endless arguments. You have said your piece, I'm glad you did but we disagree.
They may not believe them or obey them but they do understand them.
By the way this is a blog, I deliberately chose to post it here to avoid endless arguments. You have said your piece, I'm glad you did but we disagree.
I understood repent I understood Jesus is Lord but like I said I read the Bible I knew those words I saw the relevance after I was converted I saw the necessity of repentance, God gave me a conviction of Sin, faith that came by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. You may understand the language Jesus is Lord but until you receive the ability through reconciliation you cannot know eternal spiritual wisdom If you disagree . You don't believe Gods Word. You have to download the key to break the encryption in other words. Until you are saved and Born again you cannot understand the Word of God Evmur are you disagreeing because you are counting on salvation by election and selection ? eh ? just a little bit ?
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Indeed. I must have cited the term sheep and goat nations a dozen times in the last few years and that is the first time anyone corrected me. The passage does indeed say nations. I would recommend this book by Nee written nearly a hundred years ago - if only because unlike the gross manipulators we have now - he at least didn't manipulate. He simply set things down rationally and in a way that can be easily refused or else thought about. If things were confused in the 1930's regarding the issue of the rapture and the Kingdom come - we have sure made it a festering pit by now. I'm glad I was saved in a prison cell in solitary confinement and had 10 months of my sentence remaining to read the word of God and to pray and to fellowship with the Father without endless contention other than the activity of the enemy who always seeks to divert us from coming to a proper and reasonable understanding of the end of this age.
From page 305
"We will now proceed with Matthew 24 and 25. These two chapters deal with prophecies concerning (1) the Jews, (2) the church, and (3) the Gentiles. Aside from what is found in the book of Revelation, these two chapters contain the most significant prophecies for our present age. Whereas the book of Revelation gives details, the Gospel of Matthew treats only of principles. These two chapters are not easy to read. A hundred years ago∗ few seemed to pay any attention to them. Since 1828,∗∗ however, people have begun to study them carefully. Due to a difference in background, various students of the Bible advocate different interpretations on these chapters. In general, there are three varied schools of thought: (a) that all which is prophesied here pertains to the church, as advocated by Benjamin Newton; (b) that all in these chapters is related to the Jews, as championed by John Nelson Darby and C. I. Scofield; and (c) that some of the material in these two chapters concerns the church, as we maintain. The reason for such differences lies in one’s understanding of who or what the disciples stand for: whether (a) the disciples represent the church; (b) the disciples symbolize the Jews; or (c) the disciples signify the Jewish remnant as well as the pillars of the church. How to divide these two chapters is of utmost importance, else we will be confused by the first two schools."
∗ It should be noted that the author gave these readings in the early 1930’s.—Translator
** Reference to J. N. Darby
The King and the Kingdom of Heaven
A Study of Matthew WATCHMAN NEE
Christian Fellowship Publishers, Inc. New York
Copyright ©1978 Christian Fellowship Publishers, Inc. New York
All Rights Reserved
ISBN 0-935008-24-1
From page 305
"We will now proceed with Matthew 24 and 25. These two chapters deal with prophecies concerning (1) the Jews, (2) the church, and (3) the Gentiles. Aside from what is found in the book of Revelation, these two chapters contain the most significant prophecies for our present age. Whereas the book of Revelation gives details, the Gospel of Matthew treats only of principles. These two chapters are not easy to read. A hundred years ago∗ few seemed to pay any attention to them. Since 1828,∗∗ however, people have begun to study them carefully. Due to a difference in background, various students of the Bible advocate different interpretations on these chapters. In general, there are three varied schools of thought: (a) that all which is prophesied here pertains to the church, as advocated by Benjamin Newton; (b) that all in these chapters is related to the Jews, as championed by John Nelson Darby and C. I. Scofield; and (c) that some of the material in these two chapters concerns the church, as we maintain. The reason for such differences lies in one’s understanding of who or what the disciples stand for: whether (a) the disciples represent the church; (b) the disciples symbolize the Jews; or (c) the disciples signify the Jewish remnant as well as the pillars of the church. How to divide these two chapters is of utmost importance, else we will be confused by the first two schools."
∗ It should be noted that the author gave these readings in the early 1930’s.—Translator
** Reference to J. N. Darby
The King and the Kingdom of Heaven
A Study of Matthew WATCHMAN NEE
Christian Fellowship Publishers, Inc. New York
Copyright ©1978 Christian Fellowship Publishers, Inc. New York
All Rights Reserved
ISBN 0-935008-24-1
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