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Rude Christians?
Nooooo!! Say it ain't so! 🙃
We certainly don't have to go far to find someone rude.
Heck, I've been rude myself a time or two. (OK...maybe more). Usually in response to someone being rude to me first though. 🤣
There's people on different platforms I visit that have been total jerks to me on one site, but super nice on another site bc my user name is different and they don't realize its me.
Some have challenged things I've said to others only to give out the exact same "advice" to someone else.
Maybe its just better coming from them instead of me?
Who knows. 🤷♀️
I'm not sure why anyone would be rude to someone bc they're jealous of them.
Jealous of what exactly?
Online we can paint a picture of exactly who we want others to think we are.
Take all the right selfies, tell all the right stories, say all the right things.
We should keep in mind that with this form of communication it's a tad difficult to hear tone etc.
We should just all try not to be jerks (and sometimes we should extend grace to others). 🙌🏼
Nooooo!! Say it ain't so! 🙃
We certainly don't have to go far to find someone rude.
Heck, I've been rude myself a time or two. (OK...maybe more). Usually in response to someone being rude to me first though. 🤣
There's people on different platforms I visit that have been total jerks to me on one site, but super nice on another site bc my user name is different and they don't realize its me.
Some have challenged things I've said to others only to give out the exact same "advice" to someone else.
Maybe its just better coming from them instead of me?
Who knows. 🤷♀️
I'm not sure why anyone would be rude to someone bc they're jealous of them.
Jealous of what exactly?
Online we can paint a picture of exactly who we want others to think we are.
Take all the right selfies, tell all the right stories, say all the right things.
We should keep in mind that with this form of communication it's a tad difficult to hear tone etc.
We should just all try not to be jerks (and sometimes we should extend grace to others). 🙌🏼
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I went through the most challenging time in my life over the past two years. I literally lost my wife, kids, career, was put in jail, put on court supervision, couldn't return to my church, kicked out of my own home that was in my name, and much more - all because I threw my wife's phone during an argument. She got an order of protection against me which I violated by texting her that I loved her and missed her (hence jail and court supervision.) I had never physically assaulted this woman in my life. The state told me I was to have no contact with my wife for two years because of that text message. I could not understand why she wanted to destroy my life when I had done so much for her and my stepchildren. I never even got to say goodbye to them - it was as though my wife and kids left for the evening and died in a car wreck and there wasn't even a funeral. She filed for divorce while we separated, and she drug that out for 14 months. She basically abandoned my daughter as well and waited 18 months before she even came and told my daughter she was sorry for leaving without saying goodbye.
I was delivered from drugs and alcohol 18 years ago. I believed I had every reason to relapse because of what I went through. I chose to stay sober and faithful to my wife. I wore my ring the entire time we were separated and prayed with absolute faith that God would restore our marriage. It didn't happen. But, I believe because of my faithfulness and my commitment to honor Christ and His commands no matter what the world threw at me, He has blessed me with this opportunity to help others. He has put it in my heart to do a ministry on a greater level than anything I have done before. A brother from my old church told me if I could accomplish what I intend to do, it would be "monumental." All the land and all the money is the Lord's anyway. I believe it is definitely going to happen.
I was delivered from drugs and alcohol 18 years ago. I believed I had every reason to relapse because of what I went through. I chose to stay sober and faithful to my wife. I wore my ring the entire time we were separated and prayed with absolute faith that God would restore our marriage. It didn't happen. But, I believe because of my faithfulness and my commitment to honor Christ and His commands no matter what the world threw at me, He has blessed me with this opportunity to help others. He has put it in my heart to do a ministry on a greater level than anything I have done before. A brother from my old church told me if I could accomplish what I intend to do, it would be "monumental." All the land and all the money is the Lord's anyway. I believe it is definitely going to happen.
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With all due respect to you and your desire, this thread is about how we Christians ought to conduct our communications here on Christian Chat. Rules/limits have been set to ensure any form of communication abides within the aims of Christian Chat... and conforms to its goals and strategies. An administrator has outlined the type of topics that oughtn't be discussed.
Irrespective, surely we have to bite our tongue and cut off any temptation to speak rudely to or about anyone.
Regarding your personal situation, I'm deeply saddened to learn of what you have been through, may God bring complete healing to your heart, and comfort and peace.
Your aims to help the homeless and substance addicted are very admirable, and your plans I suspect have merit, and the government of the day should take heed to your concerns. However, having read your descriptions in your comments of your personal trials, and spiritual ups and downs, I doubt that Jesus would be directing you back into the fray that nearly claimed you, no matter how honourable your intentions are. He would be more concerned about securing your personal welfare. He has brought you out of the mire you were once in, He can bring others out too without needlessly putting you at risk. If I could draw a comparison, metaphorically speaking, as a commander I would not send a subordinate back into the fray if he had suffered the multiple woundings that you have... the soldier might appear healed on the outside, but I wouldn't be confident that his emotional strength could withstand the enemy's onslaught. Not only is it likely that soldier will succumb to the enemy's attacks, but he may well cause a weakening or a break in our defences, and consequently threaten the welfare of his fellow soldiers. However, I would certainly make use of his talents in a different capacity, because he would have insights and empathes that, when the time is right, can be put to good use for his benefit, and for the benefit of others. I am a Vietnam Veteran, was in the Infantry, so I may have some insights that are relevant here too.
Irrespective, surely we have to bite our tongue and cut off any temptation to speak rudely to or about anyone.
Regarding your personal situation, I'm deeply saddened to learn of what you have been through, may God bring complete healing to your heart, and comfort and peace.
Your aims to help the homeless and substance addicted are very admirable, and your plans I suspect have merit, and the government of the day should take heed to your concerns. However, having read your descriptions in your comments of your personal trials, and spiritual ups and downs, I doubt that Jesus would be directing you back into the fray that nearly claimed you, no matter how honourable your intentions are. He would be more concerned about securing your personal welfare. He has brought you out of the mire you were once in, He can bring others out too without needlessly putting you at risk. If I could draw a comparison, metaphorically speaking, as a commander I would not send a subordinate back into the fray if he had suffered the multiple woundings that you have... the soldier might appear healed on the outside, but I wouldn't be confident that his emotional strength could withstand the enemy's onslaught. Not only is it likely that soldier will succumb to the enemy's attacks, but he may well cause a weakening or a break in our defences, and consequently threaten the welfare of his fellow soldiers. However, I would certainly make use of his talents in a different capacity, because he would have insights and empathes that, when the time is right, can be put to good use for his benefit, and for the benefit of others. I am a Vietnam Veteran, was in the Infantry, so I may have some insights that are relevant here too.
how?
what do you mean removed from the land, where exactly will they go.
when I wwoofed in the countryside, one of the sons of the christian family home I stayed in was actually hiding weed in the attic. In the countryside...well thats actually where the dealers grow the weed (pot, marijuana) . Many who work in horticulture and have green thumbs actually...are devoted to this because they can make money growing cannabis.
aside from that moonshine
so...I know you mean well but just saying...the countryside isnt always paradise. Many farmers actually find it hard to make a living and are suicidal themselves.
also, I have heard of christian communes that often become very legalistic. If God wants you to do this just be aware of all the risks is what Im saying. Count the cost. its not just getting the land but keeping it.
what do you mean removed from the land, where exactly will they go.
when I wwoofed in the countryside, one of the sons of the christian family home I stayed in was actually hiding weed in the attic. In the countryside...well thats actually where the dealers grow the weed (pot, marijuana) . Many who work in horticulture and have green thumbs actually...are devoted to this because they can make money growing cannabis.
aside from that moonshine
so...I know you mean well but just saying...the countryside isnt always paradise. Many farmers actually find it hard to make a living and are suicidal themselves.
also, I have heard of christian communes that often become very legalistic. If God wants you to do this just be aware of all the risks is what Im saying. Count the cost. its not just getting the land but keeping it.
im not saying what we have now is better but the old days of asylums were people were kept against their will, or funny farms (there was a cost of keeping them there) or mental hospitals or 'the workhouse'
permaculture courses are fine and good but only for people that can afford them
When I did mine I had to do a scholarship, I noticed a lot of my classmates were from wealthy landowning families who had acres of land at their disposal. Or they could easily buy some land. They could make their permaculture self sufficient lifestyle come true cos they had the means.
but if you are looking at the homeless..the real homeless....they actually have no land. They have no capital to buy any. Theyve probably even been told they dont deserve any.
permaculture courses are fine and good but only for people that can afford them
When I did mine I had to do a scholarship, I noticed a lot of my classmates were from wealthy landowning families who had acres of land at their disposal. Or they could easily buy some land. They could make their permaculture self sufficient lifestyle come true cos they had the means.
but if you are looking at the homeless..the real homeless....they actually have no land. They have no capital to buy any. Theyve probably even been told they dont deserve any.
Well for what it may be worth to you brother I believe that you will be just fine. My email is admin@rhomphaeam.ch. Our IT assets are in Switzerland. I'm in the UK but have been preparing a mission station in the north of England for the last ten years. It's been a very expensive business. I took the decision not to ask for financial support from the outset. In fact we don't even have a bank account and we don't have a collection plate and we don't even have the means to allow anyone to pay for a cup of coffee. But we do have considerable resource and all of that is in the hands of two families who funded the entire project unconditionally from the outset.
If you ask for NO money you will be at fault and if you DO ask for money you will be at fault. That is the time we live in - and I don't mean the world finding fault - I mean the church finding fault. And it has to be said that this is not always in a poor spirit - though it is often mistaken and so it is a burden. I saw the Crow and the Arrow meaning. The work in ministry that I am now in is based on a vision given in 1984. It is entirely to do with the churches. It has little to do with the lost other than to see the church dressed in readiness for the Lord's return. In that meaning the Lord will pour out his Spirit and many will be saved and provoke a godly jealousy in those who already have life yet have been robbed of their rightful inheritance in Christ in their walks due to pastors and elders who have forsaken the narrow way - and yet endlessly claim its meaning to garner money whilst denying the power of the Cross and the Blood for deliverance.
Don't be discouraged, brother, we must all be tested. God Bless
You now have my email address.
If you ask for NO money you will be at fault and if you DO ask for money you will be at fault. That is the time we live in - and I don't mean the world finding fault - I mean the church finding fault. And it has to be said that this is not always in a poor spirit - though it is often mistaken and so it is a burden. I saw the Crow and the Arrow meaning. The work in ministry that I am now in is based on a vision given in 1984. It is entirely to do with the churches. It has little to do with the lost other than to see the church dressed in readiness for the Lord's return. In that meaning the Lord will pour out his Spirit and many will be saved and provoke a godly jealousy in those who already have life yet have been robbed of their rightful inheritance in Christ in their walks due to pastors and elders who have forsaken the narrow way - and yet endlessly claim its meaning to garner money whilst denying the power of the Cross and the Blood for deliverance.
Don't be discouraged, brother, we must all be tested. God Bless
You now have my email address.
what about oranges?or orange juice?
Is that why we don't see blue orange kitty cat lady around much these days?
What's wrong with orange?
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Thank you. If I had the money, I'd pay for the land myself. In the past, everything I've done for the Lord in ministry was out of my own pocket and at a sacrifice to myself. The only exception being one time my church needed someone for security and they paid me to do it for a few months until I gave the position to a friend that needed money. My preaching, giving, service, etc was all on me. So, I understand and commend your heart and your way of doing things.
I feel, with this particular ministry, it's the church's responsibility to pay for this. I did the math. 10s of millions of dollars into pastor's salaries and no place for the homeless and addicted to find Christian help. I was talking to my atheist brother about it and he said, "Why do you think people don't go to church?" Kind of profound when you think about it. But, instead of chastising the church, I'm going to reach out and get them excited to be a part of this as I want it to be completely volunteer-driven. If we create a local mission field, it will give thousands of local Christians a place to minister to the poor and needy.
I feel, with this particular ministry, it's the church's responsibility to pay for this. I did the math. 10s of millions of dollars into pastor's salaries and no place for the homeless and addicted to find Christian help. I was talking to my atheist brother about it and he said, "Why do you think people don't go to church?" Kind of profound when you think about it. But, instead of chastising the church, I'm going to reach out and get them excited to be a part of this as I want it to be completely volunteer-driven. If we create a local mission field, it will give thousands of local Christians a place to minister to the poor and needy.
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Thank you for your condolences.
I understand what you're saying and perhaps would agree with you under different circumstances. This mission actually has taken my mind off the sorrows I've suffered and is helping me heal. I have a lot of experience working with broken, hurting people (I worked in social work and mental health), so it's not foreign territory for me.
I understand what you're saying and perhaps would agree with you under different circumstances. This mission actually has taken my mind off the sorrows I've suffered and is helping me heal. I have a lot of experience working with broken, hurting people (I worked in social work and mental health), so it's not foreign territory for me.
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I just hit the ignore button. There are people who have come on here and don’t even know me and accuse me of not having enough faith or acting like I’m atheist. Like really? That’s the definition of judgmental.
As a Christian I have questions and things I simply don’t know. So I ask questions and count on people to graciously provide answers or point me to Scripture. To use that as an opportunity to attack me is truly despicable and I won’t tolerate it. Nothing compels me to associate with individuals who hate me like that.
As a Christian I have questions and things I simply don’t know. So I ask questions and count on people to graciously provide answers or point me to Scripture. To use that as an opportunity to attack me is truly despicable and I won’t tolerate it. Nothing compels me to associate with individuals who hate me like that.
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Key word "graciously".🙌🏼
Grace is something that I notice is definitely lacking with some people.
For some, as soon as you disagree and/or express a slightly (or very) different view, out come the accusations and insults.
Extending grace can take practice.
Keeping in mind that everyone's faith journey isn't exactly the same as well as trying to remain teachable is something we should all keep in mind.
There are ways to get our thoughts across in a loving, non condemning manner.
Like you said, we all have questions and things we simply don't know.
Grace is something that I notice is definitely lacking with some people.
For some, as soon as you disagree and/or express a slightly (or very) different view, out come the accusations and insults.
Extending grace can take practice.
Keeping in mind that everyone's faith journey isn't exactly the same as well as trying to remain teachable is something we should all keep in mind.
There are ways to get our thoughts across in a loving, non condemning manner.
Like you said, we all have questions and things we simply don't know.
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