Yeah nice try but you see you can try to remain blind to the fact you judge others all you want it isn't me you will have to answer to one day to be honest I know your type there is no reasoning with you not by words logic or scripture you are right in your own mind and nothing will change that the pharisees were the same way
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The Mosaic Law was meant to point out JESUS who Fulfilled them in Totality. The Pharisees changed it to the level where you couldn't see that it was Pointing to JESUS. JESUS wanted them to see He was the one Fulfilling It. People thought they were fulfilling it themselves and thus self-righteous.
Everyone wants to accuse me of being self-righteous ...but i'm doing it through His Image ...it's what we are supposed to do for SALVATION.
Everyone wants to accuse me of being self-righteous ...but i'm doing it through His Image ...it's what we are supposed to do for SALVATION.
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I live by love I have a very deep and intimate relationship with God a very beautiful one my heart aches for him it yearns for him hungers for him thirsts for him I crave to know and have even just a little more fo him daily so much so it it is almost torture Regardless if I amd perfectless sinless or not can you honestly say the same thing? do you know that hunger? does your heart ache like that for him? do you know that deep longing like a deep groaning inside that is like torture because it is like you want him so badly yet it is as if as long as you are on this side of heaven you cannot have him like you want to?
I don't have to defend myself to you if you were to ask anyone on here they would speak on my behalf after all anyone can testify of themselves but a witness or three is more solid evidence than the one on trial, so if you want we can test to see if I have the holy spirit but are you prepared for the answer?
I don't have to defend myself to you if you were to ask anyone on here they would speak on my behalf after all anyone can testify of themselves but a witness or three is more solid evidence than the one on trial, so if you want we can test to see if I have the holy spirit but are you prepared for the answer?
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this is an example of delusional thinking. cults are by and large populated by those with grandiose imaginings of their own importance while seeing everyone else as sinful or going to hell
to tell the truth though, I am not convinced that this poster is delusional
my belief is that he is basically mocking Christianity and is here to cause trouble
this nonsense of sinlessness is not in the Bible.
still, if he were a member of some cult believing he is sinless, much of the same behavior might be seen, but probably with less nastiness and judging. we have had several actual sinless perfection people here in the past and they are far more knowledgeable of scripture, albeit with an erroneous interpretation
for some of the ways scripture is manipulated by these cults, see post 14, or the repost after this one
to tell the truth though, I am not convinced that this poster is delusional
my belief is that he is basically mocking Christianity and is here to cause trouble
this nonsense of sinlessness is not in the Bible.
still, if he were a member of some cult believing he is sinless, much of the same behavior might be seen, but probably with less nastiness and judging. we have had several actual sinless perfection people here in the past and they are far more knowledgeable of scripture, albeit with an erroneous interpretation
for some of the ways scripture is manipulated by these cults, see post 14, or the repost after this one
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Sinless Perfectionism:
Ephesians 4:13 says that the spiritual gifts are given to build up the body of Christ “until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.” Some translations say that we will become “perfect” (instead of “mature”), and from this some people have mistakenly thought that we can reach sinless perfection in this life. The Bible teaches that, while we are in the flesh, we will always struggle with a sin nature (see Romans 7:14–24). No one will be “perfect” (sinless) until we reach heaven.
The word translated “mature” in Ephesians 4:13 is the Greek word teleios. It is used throughout the New Testament to mean “perfect,” “complete,” “full-grown,” and “mature.” What Ephesians 4:13 teaches is that, the more we grow in Christ, the stronger and more unified we will be as a church. The verse does not teach that we will stop sinning.
Another passage that people sometimes get confused about is Colossians 1:28, which says, in some translations, that Paul wants to “present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.” Also, in Colossians 4:12 Paul prays that we would “stand perfect and complete in all the will of God.” In both verses, the Greek word for perfect should be understood to mean “mature” or “full-grown,” not “having no sin.”
As human beings we are bound under Adam’s nature in this world. No matter how hard we try not to, we will still sin against God. This holds true for everyone. The apostle Paul rebuked Peter for showing favoritism (Galatians 2:11–13). Late in his ministry, Paul calls himself the chief of sinners (1 Timothy 1:15). Peter, James, John, and Paul all admitted that they were imperfect. How could you or I claim anything different?
True perfection will not come until the rapture of the church, when we rise to meet Jesus in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:17). At that time the dead in Christ will be resurrected, and the bodies of the living will be changed (Philippians 3:20, 21; 1 Corinthians 15:54). We will stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:10) where our works will be judged and rewards will be given (1 Corinthians 3:9–15). Our redemption will be complete, and our sin will be gone forever. We will live and reign with Christ in sinless perfection forever.
Ephesians 4:13 says that the spiritual gifts are given to build up the body of Christ “until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.” Some translations say that we will become “perfect” (instead of “mature”), and from this some people have mistakenly thought that we can reach sinless perfection in this life. The Bible teaches that, while we are in the flesh, we will always struggle with a sin nature (see Romans 7:14–24). No one will be “perfect” (sinless) until we reach heaven.
The word translated “mature” in Ephesians 4:13 is the Greek word teleios. It is used throughout the New Testament to mean “perfect,” “complete,” “full-grown,” and “mature.” What Ephesians 4:13 teaches is that, the more we grow in Christ, the stronger and more unified we will be as a church. The verse does not teach that we will stop sinning.
Another passage that people sometimes get confused about is Colossians 1:28, which says, in some translations, that Paul wants to “present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.” Also, in Colossians 4:12 Paul prays that we would “stand perfect and complete in all the will of God.” In both verses, the Greek word for perfect should be understood to mean “mature” or “full-grown,” not “having no sin.”
As human beings we are bound under Adam’s nature in this world. No matter how hard we try not to, we will still sin against God. This holds true for everyone. The apostle Paul rebuked Peter for showing favoritism (Galatians 2:11–13). Late in his ministry, Paul calls himself the chief of sinners (1 Timothy 1:15). Peter, James, John, and Paul all admitted that they were imperfect. How could you or I claim anything different?
True perfection will not come until the rapture of the church, when we rise to meet Jesus in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:17). At that time the dead in Christ will be resurrected, and the bodies of the living will be changed (Philippians 3:20, 21; 1 Corinthians 15:54). We will stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:10) where our works will be judged and rewards will be given (1 Corinthians 3:9–15). Our redemption will be complete, and our sin will be gone forever. We will live and reign with Christ in sinless perfection forever.
As I said before by your logic if you have only not sinned for a year you are a ababe in Christ and honestly I pity you it seems you know nothing of his love you are so fixated on being without sin that you forgot the most important thing that makes a child of God. Who was it that lead you down such a horrible path? a teacher or a pastor a family memeber?
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AKA Sinless Perfectionism
Seems pretty straight forward
1 John 1:7-10 “but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.”
further, those who believe a person can achieve a sinless state, also believe that you loose your salvation if you should sin (although if you are in a perfect state how would that happen
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so there are two things to deal with when looking at this sinless state some believe possible
the idea of sinlessness itself and the question regarding a person loosing salvation if they sin
another term for this concept of sinlessness is "Holiness Theology'
thoughts?
Seems pretty straight forward
1 John 1:7-10 “but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.”
further, those who believe a person can achieve a sinless state, also believe that you loose your salvation if you should sin (although if you are in a perfect state how would that happen
)so there are two things to deal with when looking at this sinless state some believe possible
the idea of sinlessness itself and the question regarding a person loosing salvation if they sin
another term for this concept of sinlessness is "Holiness Theology'
thoughts?
The worldly and sinful life doesn't get to continue if you want to be a Child of GOD:
Galatians 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
2 Timothy 2:19
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
Galatians 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
2 Timothy 2:19
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
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Arrogance:
: an insulting way of thinking or behaving that comes from believing that you are better, smarter, or more important than other people
this trait comes across in almost every post of a person who believe they are sinless
a deeper and applicable meaning of arrogance as we see illustrated in this thread is:
: an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions
we see someone who presumes we are all without knowledge or understanding. (but again I think he is basically trolling)
you will not see any fruit of the Holy Spirit evidenced in a person who is arrogant and overbearing
God is the actual fruit inspector, but these folk fancy themselves the gardener and believe they have arrived at a destination that is not in the Bible as far as life on earth before Christ's return goes
really, he loves the arguing and the attention. but of course you must be persuaded of that yourselves or you will just continue to play his game of trying to do one better
: an insulting way of thinking or behaving that comes from believing that you are better, smarter, or more important than other people
this trait comes across in almost every post of a person who believe they are sinless
a deeper and applicable meaning of arrogance as we see illustrated in this thread is:
: an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions
we see someone who presumes we are all without knowledge or understanding. (but again I think he is basically trolling)
you will not see any fruit of the Holy Spirit evidenced in a person who is arrogant and overbearing
God is the actual fruit inspector, but these folk fancy themselves the gardener and believe they have arrived at a destination that is not in the Bible as far as life on earth before Christ's return goes
really, he loves the arguing and the attention. but of course you must be persuaded of that yourselves or you will just continue to play his game of trying to do one better
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