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I have full control of my life, I'm capable of making numerous decisions on a daily basis, I can heal myself when sick (Medicine) to raise from the dead is impossible can you do that? the seasons and the weather is determined by nature. I don't worship anything I have the ability to change my thoughts on Right and wrong I have the ability to take other opinions on board and adopt some of their beliefs. I have no need for "worship" why would I waste my time?

The fact you can't understand this concept is the sad thing my firend.
 
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I have full control of my life, I'm capable of making numerous decisions on a daily basis, I can heal myself when sick (Medicine) to raise from the dead is impossible can you do that? the seasons and the weather is determined by nature. I don't worship anything I have the ability to change my thoughts on Right and wrong I have the ability to take other opinions on board and adopt some of their beliefs. I have no need for "worship" why would I waste my time?

The fact you can't understand this concept is the sad thing my firend.
Ahhh. Now we see the issue my friend. Jesus Christ can surely raise someone from the dead, and he has. He even raised himself from the dead. So now then, you say you can't which shows you are just a man, yet you worship yourself as a god. Or maybe you worship mother nature? goddess?

Atheism is no new thing. god is who they say it isn't, and that is that. But neither of them have power over life and death. All are subject to death. If you have so much control over your life, why can't you raise yourself from the dead? Only one has, Jesus Christ.
 
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Jesus Christ didn't though that's the thing there is no evidence to prove this ever happened. I am just a man as are you and like I keep saying I don't worship anyone, do you understand that concept there is no higher power for me I don't think I'm a God, sometimes I'm wrong sometimes I need guidance but I take it from a real person who can give me a real and relevant answer.

May Darwin Educate you :)
 
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Jesus Christ didn't though that's the thing there is no evidence to prove this ever happened. I am just a man as are you and like I keep saying I don't worship anyone, do you understand that concept there is no higher power for me I don't think I'm a God, sometimes I'm wrong sometimes I need guidance but I take it from a real person who can give me a real and relevant answer.

May Darwin Educate you :)
Oh okay, so you worship Darwin? Okay then, he is your god, he is your higher authority. If there is no higher authority than you and Darwin, either you and Darwin are your gods. How can a dead man lead a dead man?

Dawin is dead, but Jesus is alive.

By the way. There is no such thing as a Gay Christian, unless that gay means Joy.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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But like I said he isn't my " Messiah" most Atheists don't worship him but appreciate his work,
Which saves you from the immediate reality of repentence.


there's no Atheist temple with his image to pray too, It's just simply a man who to us makes sense I don't live by any of his rules or commandments I just think he's a smart guy.
A smart guy? He runs away from William Lane Craig. He won't debate William Lane Craig, and William Lane Craig constantly demonstrates how fallacious and unintelligable Dawkins really is. Dawkins should stay in the biology lab, and stay out of the philosophical public square.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFn0hopqSFw[/video]
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJmS5oVBfJY[/video]
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBTbWdGR1MY[/video]
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[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU8TlQ-4DY[/video]
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inb4 ignored videos
 
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He doesn't debate because he doesn't want to give him a platform to spout rubbish as thats all he cares about Jimmy.

I don't worship Darwin either I just think he makes sense, why do you need to worship someone in your life?

Jesus is not alive either where is he?
 
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He doesn't debate because he doesn't want to give him a platform to spout rubbish as thats all he cares about Jimmy.

I don't worship Darwin either I just think he makes sense, why do you need to worship someone in your life?

Jesus is not alive either where is he?
Hey my friend. I don't wish to present an argument for Jesus as this will only lead to more confusion. I know you might think I am foolish, but the answer is in the seeking.

I told it this way. It is like a man who built a great building and left and went to a far country. And three others came and saw the building. One supposed it was created by an explosion, and another assumed it was not created but was already there. The other supposed that some simply created it, as it had much detail and design. So, so far we have three opinions, and not the truth.

But one person decided to go and look for the builder, as he believed it was built given the design, and as sure as he sought he found. I promise you if you seek the truth and not my opinion nor your own, nor the opinion of another, you will 100% certainly find the answer.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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I admit that's a better way of putting your point across but I am seeking the truth but it just so happens I'm on a different path to yourself, you may look for the creator by I am looking for the origin of species.
 
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I admit that's a better way of putting your point across but I am seeking the truth but it just so happens I'm on a different path to yourself, you may look for the creator by I am looking for the origin of species.
HAHA. Okay.

May Jesus bless you. :)
 

Matthew4Jesus

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If what you want to know is if it is against God's will to act on homosexual feelings, then yes it is. The Bible clearly states this. We see some of this in Romans 1:27. However, to BE a homosexual and to HAVE homosexual urges is not a sin. The sin is whether or not you choose to give in to your desires.

I am not gay, but I do struggle with my own temptations. I am tested, and sometimes (okay.. almost often..) I fail. If you believe that God's word is perfect, then you cannot ignore the fact that God intended marriage to be between a man and a woman. Therefore, it is the decision of the homosexual whether or not they will put action to their desires.

I hate when people look at homosexuality and blow it up above anything else. Everyone is a sinner and we all struggle with our own temptations. It is for the homosexual and their personal relationship with God to work through how to overcome temptation and to live serving Him instead of themselves.

I'm no expert but I've also put some thought to this, so I hope I've helped :)
True Words.

If you really feel you will never like girls then you will live a life of discipline. We all have disciplines, many have to fight lust, or greed, much like an alcoholic needs to abstain from Alcohol.
 
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How did this turn into an evolution debate? Sometimes I wonder about this site...
 
Jun 16, 2011
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fsuboy thats my fault I had been questioning a few things.
 

Matthew4Jesus

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Jesus Christ didn't though that's the thing there is no evidence to prove this ever happened. I am just a man as are you and like I keep saying I don't worship anyone, do you understand that concept there is no higher power for me I don't think I'm a God, sometimes I'm wrong sometimes I need guidance but I take it from a real person who can give me a real and relevant answer.

May Darwin Educate you :)
I find that very strange, since every major religion believes in the existence of Jesus. In addition to that there is a LOT of evidence proving Christ's existence.
 
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I'm sure he existed but only as a man like a Gandhi figure and he didn't ressurect himself.
 
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I'm sure he existed but only as a man like a Gandhi figure and he didn't ressurect himself.
Maybe we could discuss this in another place at another time. I don't want to take over this thread with this. May Jesus bless you.
 
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I find that very strange, since every major religion believes in the existence of Jesus. In addition to that there is a LOT of evidence proving Christ's existence.
As a Christian but also as a religion major I'm gonna have to call your lie.

Only Christianity and Islam believe in Jesus. The other three "Major World Religions" Judaism, Buddhism and Hinduism do not believe in Jesus at all, and while some people of those religions might have the personal belief that Jesus might have been a real person, it has no root in their belief system and they do not view him as the son of God, as Hinduism believes in many gods, Buddhism doesn't have a god, and Judaism is like Christianity minus the Jesus.

Not to mention the other major religions wicca, shintoism, bahai, zoroastrianism, etc etc. None of which believe in Jesus.
 
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jimmydiggs

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I don't worship myself, I just live my life, I have no temple and have no desire to be worshiped. I don't pray that's the point i'm in control of my life and make the decisions in it, why is it not smart?
Everyone worships something.
 
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He doesn't debate because he doesn't want to give him a platform to spout rubbish as thats all he cares about Jimmy.
That's funny, because Dawkins and Craig debated against each other in Mexico. You can see it below.

Dawkins is known for making school boy arguments. If that's what you want, then I feel a great sadness for you.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1cfqV2tuOI[/video]

I don't worship Darwin either I just think he makes sense, why do you need to worship someone in your life?
I don't know that there is a need, but everyone worships something. For some it's money, for some it's lusts, idols, etc etc...

Also, why are you claiming to Darwin due to him making sense, yet previously you've stated that this doesn't influence the truth of the matter?

Jesus is not alive either where is he?
He'll be back. He is eternal.
 
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Jimmy not everyone worships someone, I don't so I must be the anomaly.