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Gardenias

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Proverbs6:16-19
These six things doeth the Lord HATE: yea seven an abomination unto him:
1.a proud look, pride kills the Holy Spirit moving in your life annother word ARROGANCE
2.a lying tongue, accountability of words whether
In outright lies, false doctrine ect.
3. hands that shed innocent blood,murder of one not deserving of death
4 an heart that deviseth wicked imaginations,to delight or enjoy evil or drama
5 feet that be swift in running into mischief
6 a false witness that speakers lies
7 and he that soweth discord among the brethren
Abominations
Pro.17:15
He that JUSTIFIETH the wicked,and he that CONDEMNETH the just even they both are an abomination to the Lord.
1Cor.6:9
Know ye not that the UNRIGHTEOUS shall NOT inherit the kingdom of God? Be NOT DECIEVED: neithers fornicators,nor idolaters,nor adulterers,nor effeminate nor abusers of themselves with mankind.
Rms.1:26/27
For this cause God GAVE THEM UP unto vile affectiond: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. 27.............................
Lev.1822
Thou shalt NOT LIE with mankind,as with womankind: it is an ABOMINATION.
PRO.12:22
The SACRIFICE ( prayer) of the wicked is an ABOMINATION to the Lord: but they that deal truly are his delight.
Pro.16 :5 proud heart
Pro.11:20 froward hearts,Pro.20:10 divers weights, and divers measures ( cheating or fraud in business),Pro.15:26 thoughts of the wicked

There are many things in God's word that he HATES,DESPISES AND ARE ABOMINAL. This is his view.
He expects purity and righteousness from people that claim him as THEIR GOD!
Recompense or consequences are prevelant in the word as well for those that follow him or reject him.

Be ye sure your sins will find you out for nothing is hidden that shall not be revealed!
 

Gardenias

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#2
LEARNING:
2 Tim:7 EVER LEARNING,and NEVER able to come to the KNOWLEDGE OF TRUTH.
The acquisition of KNOWLEDGE or skills through experience.,study,or by being taught is the definition of learning.
Pro.1:5
A WISE man will HEAR and increase learning,and a man of understanding will attain wise counsel.
Prov.9:9
..............................teach a JUST man,and he will increase in learning
Rms.15:4
For whatever things were written before were written for our LEARNING,that we through the patience and comfort of the SCRIPTURES might have hope.

Does God expect us to learn? He certainly does by listening to and studying his word.
John10:27 My sheep HEAR my voice,and I know them,and they follow me.

Luke8:14 Now the ones ( seeds) that fell among the THORNS are those who,when they have HEARD,go out and are choked with cares,riches,and pleasures of life......some things choke the word of God in the heart ( amusements,greedy for gain and WORLDLY pleasures, recognition of men)
Rms.10:17
So then Faith cometh by HEARING,and HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD.
Gal.3:2 This only would I learn of you,RECEIVED YE THE SPIRIT BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW,OR BY HEARING OF FAITH?

We are to LEARN of him. I think in this age so many professing believers are learning things in vain,and things that will not draw them closer and promote growth in him.

In God's view.
What has he INSTRUCTED us to learn?
We are to study to SHOW OURSELVES APPROVED OF GOD. It is his approval we seek as our heavenly Father. Not man nor the world,yet I see many people searching irrelevant things to be seen of man and appear as though they have much learning.

Once I though there were many scholarly men here,now I'm looking at the things they are searching for and it's things that DON'T glorify God,nor bring people's attention to him.

Follow God's view,search for salvation,building faith,increase in knowledge,understanding and wisdom to mature.
Seek out in the word scriptures that encourage,edify,instruct,adding the things of God to our soul to increase the kingdom in his glory!
 

Blik

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I am still reeling from your post scolding me for speaking of God's law, are these posts of yours a kettle calling the pot black?
 

Gardenias

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I am still reeling from your post scolding me for speaking of God's law, are these posts of yours a kettle calling the pot black?



I've said as much before and it hasn't offended you til now.
These post have nothing whatsoever to do with you.
If however it stings your heart,maybe you need a different perspective on your study habits or maybe the light source you're using.
 

Blik

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I've said as much before and it hasn't offended you til now.
These post have nothing whatsoever to do with you.
If however it stings your heart,maybe you need a different perspective on your study habits or maybe the light source you're using.
These posts are telling us to obey the law. I am scolded for saying that. Is it OK for you, but not for me? I always only post as a result of prayer, my sting is from being scolded by a human. I am, though, praying and thinking about never ever to post anything again about the law as it is read as a wrong thing to say and not as a discussion of the Lord's ways.

You are posting about law, do you think it is OK for you t do but not for me?
 

Gardenias

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YOU lack right comprehension @Blik .

I am NOT posting about the law as you say but about HEARING what God has to say in scriptures,ALL SCRIPTURE,NOT JUST ONE ASPECT.

I think it might just be GOOD if you never,ever post anything else about the law......let's see if you can.

Born again people live under grace,the law of liberty given through Jesus,not the law of sin and death given through Moses.

Let's agree to feed each other with a loooooong handled spoon. This is a pot of contention that needs no stirring!
 

Blik

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YOU lack right comprehension @Blik .

I am NOT posting about the law as you say but about HEARING what God has to say in scriptures,ALL SCRIPTURE,NOT JUST ONE ASPECT.

I think it might just be GOOD if you never,ever post anything else about the law......let's see if you can.

Born again people live under grace,the law of liberty given through Jesus,not the law of sin and death given through Moses.

Let's agree to feed each other with a loooooong handled spoon. This is a pot of contention that needs no stirring!
This law of liberty, does that mean that we are free to sin if we choose? Your advise for me not to ever mention that God gives us law, is that from your prayer, do you think God wants me to never mention his law again? Do you think that because we live under grace not law, it is a directive to us to ot listen to God's law?

Law defines what is pleasing to God and what is not, your post can be defined as law. Yet you approve your post and disapprove of anything I post about law. How is that?

This is all so bewildering, and something is not in tune with the Lord' ways. We are to support each other and help each other in our walk with the Lord.
 

Gardenias

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This law of liberty, does that mean that we are free to sin if we choose? Your advise for me not to ever mention that God gives us law, is that from your prayer, do you think God wants me to never mention his law again? Do you think that because we live under grace not law, it is a directive to us to ot listen to God's law?

Law defines what is pleasing to God and what is not, your post can be defined as law. Yet you approve your post and disapprove of anything I post about law. How is that?

This is all so bewildering, and something is not in tune with the Lord' ways. We are to support each other and help each other in our walk with the Lord.




First off,YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT NEVER EVER POSTING ANYTHING ABOUT THE LAW......I AGREED

Secondly,we can NOT help each other in grace by expounding we still obey the law......the LAW is death.....which you do.


Where do we see of God? O. T
Who is the N. T. about ,Jesus who paid the penalty of our sins debt that the law exposed.

You cannot be changed nor taught by anyone but the Spirit at this stage in your relationship to God.

Years of putting it out there has cemented it as the only truth in your mind.
I hate to always question the veracity of what people say their life is about

You do whatever you like, Blik,I'm not going to put you back on ignore though,that closes threads you start to others post i respect.

I'll try to refrain from speaking to you in your threads.
 

Blik

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First off,YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT NEVER EVER POSTING ANYTHING ABOUT THE LAW......I AGREED

Secondly,we can NOT help each other in grace by expounding we still obey the law......the LAW is death.....which you do.


Where do we see of God? O. T
Who is the N. T. about ,Jesus who paid the penalty of our sins debt that the law exposed.

You cannot be changed nor taught by anyone but the Spirit at this stage in your relationship to God.

Years of putting it out there has cemented it as the only truth in your mind.
I hate to always question the veracity of what people say their life is about

You do whatever you like, Blik,I'm not going to put you back on ignore though,that closes threads you start to others post i respect.

I'll try to refrain from speaking to you in your threads.
We disagree so completely, I cannot share with you as a Christian. If you believe the law is death, that we must ignore everything the 119th Psalm says about it, that when scripture says the law is death it means that the law states everything that kills us, then it opposes everything I have learned about belonging to the Lord. You cannot believe that you must oppose all God tells you (you post?) and believe you must listen to Christ within you at the same time. How could you be uder grace when you deny Matt. 5 even, for this is, to you, only about what kills. You are either for God or against him. Sorry, I had hopes in being able to share with you. I send you blessings, but goodbye.
 

Gardenias

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I have my doubts about where you stand in Jesus as well @Blik since you seem so obsessed by the law,so it is a DEFINITE that we cannot fellowship!

I follow God through his holy word inspired by holy men under the teacher,the Holy Spirit. This is how we as followers of Christ are expected to shine our lights in the darkness of the world!

You are lying when you state I DENY Mat.5. The beautitudes are a beautiful passage in the scriptures,that teach us what kind of ATTITUDES to walk in so others may see the light of Jesus in and through us!

I am ALL in with the FATHER (GOD),the SON,JESUS,( GOD) and with the HOLY GHOST ( GOD)


Again a mis-truth, we have engaged before and you know what you believe of the law I have rebuked.
We do NOT follow God under the same language of the scriptures.

Ciao,
 

Edify

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#11
Proverbs6:16-19
These six things doeth the Lord HATE: yea seven an abomination unto him:
1.a proud look, pride kills the Holy Spirit moving in your life annother word ARROGANCE
2.a lying tongue, accountability of words whether
In outright lies, false doctrine ect.
3. hands that shed innocent blood,murder of one not deserving of death
4 an heart that deviseth wicked imaginations,to delight or enjoy evil or drama
5 feet that be swift in running into mischief
6 a false witness that speakers lies
7 and he that soweth discord among the brethren
Abominations
Pro.17:15
He that JUSTIFIETH the wicked,and he that CONDEMNETH the just even they both are an abomination to the Lord.
1Cor.6:9
Know ye not that the UNRIGHTEOUS shall NOT inherit the kingdom of God? Be NOT DECIEVED: neithers fornicators,nor idolaters,nor adulterers,nor effeminate nor abusers of themselves with mankind.
Rms.1:26/27
For this cause God GAVE THEM UP unto vile affectiond: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. 27.............................
Lev.1822
Thou shalt NOT LIE with mankind,as with womankind: it is an ABOMINATION.
PRO.12:22
The SACRIFICE ( prayer) of the wicked is an ABOMINATION to the Lord: but they that deal truly are his delight.
Pro.16 :5 proud heart
Pro.11:20 froward hearts,Pro.20:10 divers weights, and divers measures ( cheating or fraud in business),Pro.15:26 thoughts of the wicked

There are many things in God's word that he HATES,DESPISES AND ARE ABOMINAL. This is his view.
He expects purity and righteousness from people that claim him as THEIR GOD!
Recompense or consequences are prevelant in the word as well for those that follow him or reject him.

Be ye sure your sins will find you out for nothing is hidden that shall not be revealed!
I think #4 isn't understood as much as the others.
For instance. manipulation is something prominent in the modern church. Shepherds manipulating the flock to steer them the way to follow his/her agendas.
I heard a state leader brag that he talks about things to his congregation to make them think they came up with a peticular idea to present to the church instead of him doing it.
Manipulation is devising wickedness because it's deceitful.
It also leads to 1, 2. & 6. Sometimes 7, because the idea they implant can be about another member they want gone or lose a position.
It can happen a lot when their board/staff is made up of 'yes' men.
 

Pilgrimshope

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LEARNING:
2 Tim:7 EVER LEARNING,and NEVER able to come to the KNOWLEDGE OF TRUTH.
The acquisition of KNOWLEDGE or skills through experience.,study,or by being taught is the definition of learning.
Pro.1:5
A WISE man will HEAR and increase learning,and a man of understanding will attain wise counsel.
Prov.9:9
..............................teach a JUST man,and he will increase in learning
Rms.15:4
For whatever things were written before were written for our LEARNING,that we through the patience and comfort of the SCRIPTURES might have hope.

Does God expect us to learn? He certainly does by listening to and studying his word.
John10:27 My sheep HEAR my voice,and I know them,and they follow me.

Luke8:14 Now the ones ( seeds) that fell among the THORNS are those who,when they have HEARD,go out and are choked with cares,riches,and pleasures of life......some things choke the word of God in the heart ( amusements,greedy for gain and WORLDLY pleasures, recognition of men)
Rms.10:17
So then Faith cometh by HEARING,and HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD.
Gal.3:2 This only would I learn of you,RECEIVED YE THE SPIRIT BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW,OR BY HEARING OF FAITH?

We are to LEARN of him. I think in this age so many professing believers are learning things in vain,and things that will not draw them closer and promote growth in him.

In God's view.
What has he INSTRUCTED us to learn?
We are to study to SHOW OURSELVES APPROVED OF GOD. It is his approval we seek as our heavenly Father. Not man nor the world,yet I see many people searching irrelevant things to be seen of man and appear as though they have much learning.

Once I though there were many scholarly men here,now I'm looking at the things they are searching for and it's things that DON'T glorify God,nor bring people's attention to him.

Follow God's view,search for salvation,building faith,increase in knowledge,understanding and wisdom to mature.
Seek out in the word scriptures that encourage,edify,instruct,adding the things of God to our soul to increase the kingdom in his glory!
loved the read as usual always some form of edification

All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11:27-30‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that’s salvstion to understand the gospel is like a lesson book teaching us the way to walk to get home. And it was never revealed before he came so that our faith must reside in Christ and the gospel