Major doctrinal errors found in Amillennialism.

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The fallen human condition (worldly babylon) is the image that Adam broke.
Enter back into The Garden of Eden (Home / The Kingdom of GOD) and reach for The Tree of LIFE with The Image of The Last Adam.


 
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sin is using your own plan for life without GOD. if you don't Believe The Truth ...guess what you are doing?

Philippians 3:14
I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

//missing the mark (sin) is missing the high calling of GOD'S Plan (The Truth).
//so the mark of the beast is to follow satan's plan/lies which doesn't involve GOD ...only you.


GOD had to become Man because none of us were good enough for The Sacrifice. JESUS kept The Spirit in His Blood Pure ...without sin. Are you aware of how many Laws are in the Mosaic Law? Only a GOD could Accomplish that. ....Fulfill that. The Last Adam had Pure Blood to Fix our Reborn Image.
 
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The video above is only around 5min long, it is amazing.

JESUS is our King because He is our Host (in His Body) for The Way into The Garden of Eden (The Kingdom of GOD) and The Tree of LIFE.

The Angels guarding The Tree of LIFE know to let The Image of CHRIST walk past them.
 

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4. The first resurrection? Christ's resurrection?

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Here Amill changes the "first resurrection" from a reference to the first of two groups of the dead being raised back to life in Rev 20 to somehow being a reference to Christ's own resurrection found in the gospels. It is clearly not speaking of Christ's resurrection for many contextual reasons.
isn’t it ?

“Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”
‭‭John‬ ‭11:25-26‬ ‭

“If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

there’s a resurrection by faith guaranteeing death can’t touch us because we died and rose with Christ already

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the New Testament is shaped after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. We die with him formoir sins and we are raised with him to a new life

One is by faith now presently bekng put to death and raised with him to new life . the other is for those who reject faith and will be raised up and face the judgement of the gospel to the r then having had received the gospel and brought from death to life

the first resurrection is a spiritual we’re “born again “ by The spirit raised up from certain death to eternal life already by faith believers are partaking in his death and resurrection
 

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the first resurrection is a spiritual we’re “born again “
That's a birth now a resurrection. The first resurrection of Revelation 20 is about the first of two groups resurrecting from the dead physically. Those of the first group died as born again Christians in fact it's one of the reasons they were killed.
 

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5. First resurrection, a resurrection without a death?

Also, some in Amill alternatively claim those of the first resurrection never died in the first place despite it saying these were beheaded during the tribulation. Both claims regarding the first resurrection are false and each contradict the other.

6. Timeframe of the first resurrection.

Amill believes Christ comes after the Millennium yet Christ clearly returns before the Millennium because Rev 20 mentions the first resurrection occurring before the Millennium begins and that only happens at the second coming.
 

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That's a birth now a resurrection. The first resurrection of Revelation 20 is about the first of two groups resurrecting from the dead physically. Those of the first group died as born again Christians in fact it's one of the reasons they were killed.
this isn’t a resurrection ? Coming from death to life isn’t resurrection ?

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭

I’d say that’s the definition of resurrection to come from death to life

And you mean these two groups ?

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. ( first group)

Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, 1 and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24-25, 28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

there’s a group that accepts the gospel they have died and rose already with Christ and then there’s another group in thier graves not Christians they already passed from death remember

but the second group has to face this jidgement do you have the ones who accept The gospel and pass from death into life ( resurrection) and then the last judgement we have this group who refused the gospel

“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:48‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I think if you look close you’ll see the last jidgement comes for those who are dead , in the grave in hell they are resurrected at that point but Christians have been passing through this world into the heavens with Jesus as they leave the flesh not going into the grave that’s what happens when we reject the gospel we have to go to the grave and wait till the end

if we are raised with Christ through the gospel we’re just leaving this world and entering the kingdom alive and well and less of a load leaving our flesh behind and putting our spiritual body on


“It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:44‬ ‭

when our flesh does our spirit goes home to God if we believe of not we have to wait for the second resurrection of the dead here

“And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:12-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Christians aren’t in hat group they have christs promise here and they believe it

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:51‬ ‭

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We pass from death and don’t even realize it

“Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”
‭‭John‬ ‭11:25-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

see how Christians aren’t in that group of The dead that are raised ? If they believe Jesus that is. But they are those who the second death has no power over because why ? Jesus promised

“He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

death has no power over us anymore once we realize this world is temporary and realize the kingdom is forever it’s gravy from there

humans got used to The law of death we all realize we’re gonna die in a few years whether 50 or five but Christ have us something immensely powerful his own promise that we have been saved from condemnation and death already our life is in his life

“If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

when we realize we have to let go of our own life and grab into Jesus life it becomes clear that this is true

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we aren’t gonna perish we have been made alive from the dead already
 

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this isn’t a resurrection ? Coming from death to life isn’t resurrection ?

Being born again is a birth not a resurrection:

Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

G1080
γεννάω
gennaō
ghen-nah'-o
From a variation of G1085; to procreate (properly of the father, but by extension of the mother); figuratively to regenerate: - bear, beget, be born, bring forth, conceive, be delivered of, gender, make, spring.
Total KJV occurrences: 97

This word does not mean a resurrection.
 

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Being born again is a birth not a resurrection:

Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

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γεννάω
gennaō
ghen-nah'-o
From a variation of G1085; to procreate (properly of the father, but by extension of the mother); figuratively to regenerate: - bear, beget, be born, bring forth, conceive, be delivered of, gender, make, spring.
Total KJV occurrences: 97

This word does not mean a resurrection.
being brought from death to life isn’t resurrection ? Well I would have to disagree but anyways
 

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In Rev.10:6, the angel is saying there will be time no longer for the mystery of God to continue (vs.7).
 

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You aren't listening. Death to life is a resurrection but being born again is NOT.
to be born again we have to put the flesh to death and be reborn so it’s actually just another way of saying it

we’re born in the flesh once and then we’re born of the spirit we have to let the flesh life go let it die in order to take up the resurrection

bekng born again requires us to die to the flesh and be raised up of the spirit It’s just a different way to say the same thing the whole New Testament is modeled after the death and resurrection of Christ

“And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭9:23-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

baptism means we died with Jesus and are raised up with him that’s the same thing being born again means you die with Christ and are raised with him

think of baptism . You go below the water and then are raised up from it by a man of God. That’s inclusion by faith into his death and resurrection . Its the shape of Paul’s doctrine and how it revolves around the death and resurrection of Jesus bekng applied to us by faith through baptism

“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:3-6, 11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it’s about applying the gospel To our life both the death of Jesus to sin and the resurrection of Jesus unto justification

“Born again “ is just a phrase to communicate the idea of being baptized into remission of sins into death with Jesus , taking in the knowledge of the gospel reforming our mind and heart through faith and being raised up on the spirit of Jesus Christ

do you see all through the epistles the idea of dying and being raised again to a new life ? It’s all based on Jesus dying and raising up and our faith in him.

being born again is showing us it’s a new life new beginning with God where our sins are remitted because we have been recognized by God to have died formoir sins in Christ now we live in him also

you will. Price this theme of death and resurrection bekng applied to believers throughout the New Testament doctrine it’s in almost every epistle
 

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But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. Mt.22:31-32

He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life Jn.5:24
 
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But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. Mt.22:31-32

He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life Jn.5:24
Curious, most of us are dead spirits ...so only some are living as GOD'S Children?
 
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Are you only a Child of GOD if you are living on GOD'S Plan of SALVATION and Reborn with The Last Adam's Image?
 

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Curious, most of us are dead spirits ...so only some are living as GOD'S Children?
People who put their faith in our Lord Jesus are made alive by him,

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. Jn.14:23

We're made alive, born of the Holy Spirit.
 

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Are you only a Child of GOD if you are living on GOD'S Plan of SALVATION and Reborn with The Last Adam's Image?
That’s it exactly we’re changed from adams image to christ the only begotten son that’s what makes us the children

we believe in Jesus , we accept his word , we’re baptized into Jesus name , we receive his spirit ect it’s all about Jesus completely

and over time by faith through perseverance we are conformed into his image from glory to glory and from faith to faith as we grow

but a tree is a tree even before it starts bearing fruit , however when the tree is full grown it needs to bear fruit in order to be harvested Jesus is a huge fruitful tree we want to bear those fruits he spoke forth to believe
 

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7. Return of Christ not found inbetween the end of the Millennium and judgment day.

In Rev 20 we are shown the beginning and the end of the Millennium and then the great white throne judgment yet the most anticipated event in human history is nowhere to be found. If Jesus does not return inbetween the end of the Millennium and judgment day, then when did his return actually take place?
 

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8. Thousand year reign of the saints in Heaven or on the Earth?

Some Amill's claim the resurrected saints that reign for 1000 years are in heaven during that reign, yet some also say the 1000 years doesn't apply to those saints in heaven because "heaven is eternal" and there is no time there. According to Rev_5:10, the saints reign on the Earth not in heaven therefore the reign of the rod of iron for a thousand years in Revelation 20 is upon the Earth.
 

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9. Satan attacks New Jerusalem?

Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Some Amill's believe that this attempted attack on Jerusalem is actually against New Jerusalem and satan is trying to access God's throne yet New Jerusalem does not descend from Heaven until after judgment day, Rev 21.