THE GREAT COVID-19 VACCINE CRIMINAL COVER-UP

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ZNP

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My 13 year old cousin recently told me she just developed heart issues. Had to have an EKG and the docs want her to wear a heart monitor to try to figure out what's going on, because they're baffled.
I asked if she had been Covid vaccinated recently and she said, "Yeah. Why?"
She wasn't informed at all of the potential side effects and may now have to deal with a lifelong issue with her heart. She had already had Covid and it was barely a blip in her life but now? Now she'll be dealing with this bovine stool all because the government wants us all vaxxed against something that has a 99+ survival rate!
On the plus side, she said she'd be refusing jab 2 and any boosters. That is, if she can stay strong against the constant harassment of the system and the perpetual fear-mongering.
I have heard that drinking alcohol helps flush this vaccine from your body.
 

ZNP

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Well, yeah. In 2017 he said there would be a "surprise outbreak"
Steve Fletcher showed some kind of study done in 2018 where they planned out the pandemic and then 666 days later in 2020 we had the global shutdown of the economy due to the pandemic.

By the way, 2048 is considered to be a jubilee year based on a prophecy of some Rabbi about 1917 and 1948 and then 1967 when the Jews got Jerusalem was also a jubilee year. That in turn makes 2018 a jubilee year.
 

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If someone is quoting from a “reputable” source like the lancet, they’re probably on the mass psychosis bandwagon:

Here’s just how trustworthy the Lancet is:

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Well, as to the band wagon you suggest that someone quoting from the Lancet is on - I can't say I am on anyones band wagon - especially given that I haven't been vaccinated and don't intend to be vaccinated. So a mass psychosis inclusion in your meaning - means that I can't be in on the on - unless of course I am in on the population correction band wagon - then just throw me into the gutter. I'll find my own way home.

There is also a big difference between quoting a peer reviewed scientific journal article and quoting a published letter.

There is also a vast difference between quoting a peer reviewed article with extensively cited scientific and clinical sources on a distinct clinical claim made by another poster - and actually quoting the article. I quoted no one - not even the Lancet article. Try paying attention. Easy over now!
 

ZNP

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Why does it take 12 years to approve a vaccine?

There is a process with an experimental vaccine. You are supposed to document every single adverse reaction that a vaccinated person gets. You are not supposed to assume they are unrelated. If it is merely "coincidence" that will become apparent when you do statistical analysis.

So then for the 12 years when a vaccine is experimental and you are gathering all the data every single adverse reaction is something you would want to examine to see if there is a link. There has been a long history of people claiming this or that vaccine is "safe and effective" only to find out a few years later that it isn't. Therefore the cases of myocarditis and cancer require a thorough examination. It is irresponsible to claim that the vast majority of people getting the vaccine are "fine". However, it is appropriate to point out evidence that has been found, even though it isn't conclusive, that warrants concern over the vaccine. That is the appropriate attitude to take with an experimental drug.
 

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Well, as to the band wagon you suggest that someone quoting from the Lancet is on - I can't say I am on anyones band wagon - especially given that I haven't been vaccinated and don't intend to be vaccinated. So a mass psychosis inclusion in your meaning - means that I can't be in on the on - unless of course I am in on the population correction band wagon - then just throw me into the gutter. I'll find my own way home.

There is also a big difference between quoting a peer reviewed scientific journal article and quoting a published letter.

There is also a vast difference between quoting a peer reviewed article with extensively cited scientific and clinical sources on a distinct clinical claim made by another poster - and actually quoting the article. I quoted no one - not even the Lancet article. Try paying attention. Easy over now!
Peer reviewed Scientific journal-worthy articles and data sets are nice. They really are the cream of the crop......as far as human ability goes.

However......they are lagging indicators. Horrendously lagging. What good is reading a peer-reviewed article when it says it's too late and you're all gonna die?

All through this COVID pandemic I have had to make reactionary decisions based on scant data, observation, and my gut. And I made the right call time after time after time. We loaded up on ivermectin and absolutely refused to get jabbed not even once.

It sure is good feeling to know that you don't have big Pharma NWO/WEF mystery juice saturating your cardiovascular system, organs and brain.

I feel emancipated, free as a bird, and feel I have fought the good fight and won.
 

ZNP

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Peer reviewed Scientific journal-worthy articles and data sets are nice. They really are the cream of the crop......as far as human ability goes.

However......they are lagging indicators. Horrendously lagging. What good is reading a peer-reviewed article when it says it's too late and you're all gonna die?

All through this COVID pandemic I have had to make reactionary decisions based on scant data, observation, and my gut. And I made the right call time after time after time. We loaded up on ivermectin and absolutely refused to get jabbed not even once.

It sure is good feeling to know that you don't have big Pharma NWO/WEF mystery juice saturating your cardiovascular system, organs and brain.

I feel emancipated, free as a bird, and feel I have fought the good fight and won.
This is true, we did not have a single scientific, peer reviewed article to help us with this decision but we had plenty of common sense:

1. Why do they ignore those who have recovered when calculating herd immunity?

2. Why are they mandating an experimental vaccine violating the Nuremberg laws?

3. Why are they not focusing on treatment, things like HCQ, Ivermectin, Zinc, C, D, etc?

4. Why are those who are called the "gold standard" of how to deal with the pandemic the same ones with the highest death rates and those who are accused of promoting superspreader events the ones with the lowest death rates?

5. Based on what evidence did they attack, ridicule and mock those who claimed the pandemic came from the Wuhan Bioweapons lab?

6. Why are we not allowed to ask questions and get censored if we do?

7. Who does Fauci think he is saying that to question him is to question science?
 

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This is true, we did not have a single scientific, peer reviewed article to help us with this decision but we had plenty of common sense:

1. Why do they ignore those who have recovered when calculating herd immunity?

2. Why are they mandating an experimental vaccine violating the Nuremberg laws?

3. Why are they not focusing on treatment, things like HCQ, Ivermectin, Zinc, C, D, etc?

4. Why are those who are called the "gold standard" of how to deal with the pandemic the same ones with the highest death rates and those who are accused of promoting superspreader events the ones with the lowest death rates?

5. Based on what evidence did they attack, ridicule and mock those who claimed the pandemic came from the Wuhan Bioweapons lab?

6. Why are we not allowed to ask questions and get censored if we do?

7. Who does Fauci think he is saying that to question him is to question science?

all questions that some of know the answers to, and to some, things that never cross their brainwashed minds..
 

cv5

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This is true, we did not have a single scientific, peer reviewed article to help us with this decision but we had plenty of common sense:

1. Why do they ignore those who have recovered when calculating herd immunity?

2. Why are they mandating an experimental vaccine violating the Nuremberg laws?

3. Why are they not focusing on treatment, things like HCQ, Ivermectin, Zinc, C, D, etc?

4. Why are those who are called the "gold standard" of how to deal with the pandemic the same ones with the highest death rates and those who are accused of promoting superspreader events the ones with the lowest death rates?

5. Based on what evidence did they attack, ridicule and mock those who claimed the pandemic came from the Wuhan Bioweapons lab?

6. Why are we not allowed to ask questions and get censored if we do?

7. Who does Fauci think he is saying that to question him is to question science?
Yes. Even though I did not have all the answers what I DID understand beyond doubt was that there was Satanic deception and mischief afoot. This whole thing has been a pack of lies from the beginning. Deliberate obfuscation.
 

ZNP

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Yes. Even though I did not have all the answers what I DID understand beyond doubt was that there was Satanic deception and mischief afoot. This whole thing has been a pack of lies from the beginning. Deliberate obfuscation.
Did you see Steve Fletcher's channel? He showed that in 2018 they had a planning meeting for the pandemic and then 666 days later we had the global shutdown.
 

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Peer reviewed Scientific journal-worthy articles and data sets are nice. They really are the cream of the crop......as far as human ability goes.

However......they are lagging indicators. Horrendously lagging. What good is reading a peer-reviewed article when it says it's too late and you're all gonna die?

All through this COVID pandemic I have had to make reactionary decisions based on scant data, observation, and my gut. And I made the right call time after time after time. We loaded up on ivermectin and absolutely refused to get jabbed not even once.

It sure is good feeling to know that you don't have big Pharma NWO/WEF mystery juice saturating your cardiovascular system, organs and brain.

I feel emancipated, free as a bird, and feel I have fought the good fight and won.
Hey I went into protection mode before the pandemic arrived. The people I protected were those who I have a statutory duty in law to protect. I took no meds no vaccinations and sought no medical advise for myself. And I had to visit people who were in end of life care - you should try that for liberty and then see how folks with a critical reason to know they are suddenly at a massive risk deal with reality. I didn't have a day off for nearly 18 months. I stockpiled food and ensured that we had ample basic supplies of everything we needed before the lockdown happened. So don't get vexed at me. I trusted God - Period.

You guys seem to think you've had a hard time. No doubt you did have to resource your own needs and do so with limited understanding. But if God was giving you an understanding it isn't your gut that would inform you - but your spirit. In Italy the bodies were piling up in the streets before anyone knew what to do. In parts of the UK entire care homes were wiped out because of a single mistake by a care practitioner. People have gone to jail for their mistakes. I made sure that everyone I had to inform knew that I didn't want see them until the storm had passed. I threw the wolves in the pit in February 2020 when I read about the virus in clinical articles. You could have done the same thing if you had applied some rationale and stopped making out like a prophet of doom. I gave my friends just one weeks notice to vacate the environments I worked in and then to expect me to tear them to pieces if they came near. They were put onto indefinite leave - on full pay because they were family men and women with children to safeguard and protect. No one was stupid enough to come near the people I had a responsibility for. So I am glad you have fought the good fight - but you fought for yourself. Some of us fought for others and refused to save ourselves. Doctors, nurses, carers and a multitude of others in clinical care paid with their lives to treat tens of thousands of patients with almost nothing more than basic PPE.

Myself? I caught up on a mountain of paperwork whilst wiping bottoms - making reduced marrowbone stock and rewriting the dietary needs of people dying with cancer. As a matter of reality the pandemic was easy for some - and unspeakably hard on others. That is the way of pandemics. As for the devil - who is he? Just a lair and a fraud. Poke him in they eye and turn away.
 

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Hey I went into protection mode before the pandemic arrived. The people I protected were those who I have a statutory duty in law to protect. I took no meds no vaccinations and sought no medical advise for myself. And I had to visit people who were in end of life care - you should try that for liberty and then see how folks with a critical reason to know they are suddenly at a massive risk deal with reality. I didn't have a day off for nearly 18 months. I stockpiled food and ensured that we had ample basic supplies of everything we needed before the lockdown happened. So don't get vexed at me. I trusted God - Period.

You guys seem to think you've had a hard time. No doubt you did have to resource your own needs and do so with limited understanding. But if God was giving you an understanding it isn't your gut that would inform you - but your spirit. In Italy the bodies were piling up in the streets before anyone knew what to do. In parts of the UK entire care homes were wiped out because of a single mistake by a care practitioner. People have gone to jail for their mistakes. I made sure that everyone I had to inform knew that I didn't want see them until the storm had passed. I threw the wolves in the pit in February 2020 when I read about the virus in clinical articles. You could have done the same thing if you had applied some rationale and stopped making out like a prophet of doom. I gave my friends just one weeks notice to vacate the environments I worked in and then to expect me to tear them to pieces if they came near. They were put onto indefinite leave - on full pay because they were family men and women with children to safeguard and protect. No one was stupid enough to come near the people I had a responsibility for. So I am glad you have fought the good fight - but you fought for yourself. Some of us fought for others and refused to save ourselves. Doctors, nurses, carers and a multitude of others in clinical care paid with their lives to treat tens of thousands of patients with almost nothing more than basic PPE.

Myself? I caught up on a mountain of paperwork whilst wiping bottoms - making reduced marrowbone stock and rewriting the dietary needs of people dying with cancer. As a matter of reality the pandemic was easy for some - and unspeakably hard on others. That is the way of pandemics. As for the devil - who is he? Just a lair and a fraud. Poke him in they eye and turn away.
Present omicron seems not so difficult for the people, but we have 5 covidpatients on our icu. They all are unvaccined. The Pandemie is a tragedy for many people around the world.
But it is also tragedy that it is splitting familys, and followers of Christ in the question to vaccine or not.
 

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Hey I went into protection mode before the pandemic arrived. The people I protected were those who I have a statutory duty in law to protect. I took no meds no vaccinations and sought no medical advise for myself. And I had to visit people who were in end of life care - you should try that for liberty and then see how folks with a critical reason to know they are suddenly at a massive risk deal with reality. I didn't have a day off for nearly 18 months. I stockpiled food and ensured that we had ample basic supplies of everything we needed before the lockdown happened. So don't get vexed at me. I trusted God - Period.

You guys seem to think you've had a hard time. No doubt you did have to resource your own needs and do so with limited understanding. But if God was giving you an understanding it isn't your gut that would inform you - but your spirit. In Italy the bodies were piling up in the streets before anyone knew what to do. In parts of the UK entire care homes were wiped out because of a single mistake by a care practitioner. People have gone to jail for their mistakes. I made sure that everyone I had to inform knew that I didn't want see them until the storm had passed. I threw the wolves in the pit in February 2020 when I read about the virus in clinical articles. You could have done the same thing if you had applied some rationale and stopped making out like a prophet of doom. I gave my friends just one weeks notice to vacate the environments I worked in and then to expect me to tear them to pieces if they came near. They were put onto indefinite leave - on full pay because they were family men and women with children to safeguard and protect. No one was stupid enough to come near the people I had a responsibility for. So I am glad you have fought the good fight - but you fought for yourself. Some of us fought for others and refused to save ourselves. Doctors, nurses, carers and a multitude of others in clinical care paid with their lives to treat tens of thousands of patients with almost nothing more than basic PPE.

Myself? I caught up on a mountain of paperwork whilst wiping bottoms - making reduced marrowbone stock and rewriting the dietary needs of people dying with cancer. As a matter of reality the pandemic was easy for some - and unspeakably hard on others. That is the way of pandemics. As for the devil - who is he? Just a lair and a fraud. Poke him in they eye and turn away.
Nope...not in any way vexed at you buddy.

"in February 2020 when I read about the virus in clinical articles."

I read literally everything I could lay my hands on. Loaded up on therapeutics and rode it out.

What I rode out was mass psychosis. Spurred on by the "authorities". That was the real danger IMO.
The parade of propaganda continues. That's what they do. That's ALL THEY DO.....!

COVID itself.....well we just ignored that. Like it didn't exist.
 

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But it is also tragedy that it is splitting familys, and followers of Christ in the question to vaccine or not.
Why? Most of my family members and my wife's family members are fully vaccinated, we aren't. It hasn't split us. We have discussed it but they don't impose their will on me and I don't impose my will on them.
 

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Present omicron seems not so difficult for the people, but we have 5 covidpatients on our icu. They all are unvaccined. The Pandemie is a tragedy for many people around the world.
But it is also tragedy that it is splitting familys, and followers of Christ in the question to vaccine or not.
Present omicron seems likely to be a viral load that produces more flu like symptoms in many more people than the original strain produced non resistant infection in those who were infected and died. I believe that this is in large part due to the vaccination program. So the transmission or contagion is more virile - but the effect is significantly less severe. That seems to bear out across the entirety of the UK. More infected people - but significantly less symptoms and less adverse immune system reactions. As far as I can tell - no one really knows precisely what that will mean into the future or if a more morbid strain will emerge to change that presentation. As to the family issue - yes that is happening. As to the issue of believers that is less pronounced in the UK - but in North America it does have some severe problems - and that, it seems, is almost entirely due to mandated vaccination implications on the general population as it is perceived by some brethren.

I have avoided getting into the political and spiritual theatre on this one - I have enough problems dealing with speaking in tongues and prophecy to keep me stimulated for years to come. :censored:
 

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Present omicron seems likely to be a viral load that produces more flu like symptoms in many more people than the original strain produced non resistant infection in those who were infected and died. I believe that this is in large part due to the vaccination program. So the transmission or contagion is more virile - but the effect is significantly less severe. That seems to bear out across the entirety of the UK. More infected people - but significantly less symptoms and less adverse immune system reactions. As far as I can tell - no one really knows precisely what that will mean into the future or if a more morbid strain will emerge to change that presentation. As to the family issue - yes that is happening. As to the issue of believers that is less pronounced in the UK - but in North America it does have some severe problems - and that, it seems, is almost entirely due to mandated vaccination implications on the general population as it is perceived by some brethren.

I have avoided getting into the political and spiritual theatre on this one - I have enough problems dealing with speaking in tongues and prophecy to keep me stimulated for years to come. :censored:
I have had both Covid and Omicron. Covid was far more serious and left me with issue for at least six months if not a year. Omicron took me less than a week to recover fully. Both of these conferred immunity to me. After recovering from Covid I worked in the schools in a place that was certainly exposed repeatedly in Brooklyn. I had no issues at all. I view Omicron as a "booster" to my immune system.
 
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My doctor said I had Covid. I felt terrible for a month. Then every few weeks I'd feel the same for 3-4 days. This lasted for a few months. Then I was fine. Last Fall I had something that made me feel ill for a few weeks, then I was fine.
I've had Lupus for 21 years. I've had Hep. C. for 48 years. I can't be treated for either. I'm in my 60s. I'm unjabbed. I still do better than many of the jabbed. Especially those that have been injured or killed by it.