Do demons have the authority Of God to oppress christians

[de-emerald]

Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

would you say @Runningman that Satan has been given permission to look for someone to attack Christians in the above scripture.

Also you know that this warning was given to Christians.

Which is you know the meaning here is that if the Christian does not stay sober minded they could be overcome by the power of death, because Christian where also asked to stay alert. As well as sober minded.

 

[de-emerald]

Ephesians 2.2

in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience—

As I said @Runningman I have at least a hundred. And u know where to search, I also welcome everyone to keep this very important study going.

Would you say the spirit that is at work in the disobedient is the power of death. ?.

 

[de-emerald]

Mathew 25:41

Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Revelation 20:14
Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.

Would you say the devil is death. @Runningman

 

[de-emerald]

Espesian 6

Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.

@Runningman and anyone else wishing to take part scripture number 4 out of a hundred. Would you say there's are rules to overcoming the power of death. After reading the above.

 

[Runningman]

Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

would you say @Runningman that Satan has been given permission to look for someone to attack Christians in the above scripture.

Also you know that this warning was given to Christians.

Which is you know the meaning here is that if the Christian does not stay sober minded they could be overcome by the power of death, because Christian where also asked to stay alert. As well as sober minded.

My perspective is that the devil is looking for the weakest link, so to speak, of Christians who have fallen off the strait and narrow, even momentarily by casually sinning. Demonic spiritual activity increases where there is sin, even a little bit of sin, it isn't necessarily directly proportional to the amount of sin present, but sin creates an opening in the spiritual armor; a weak link in the chainmail if you will. So the devil is opportunistically searching about for someone to devour. This is just personal experience.

 

[Runningman]

Espesian 6

Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.

@Runningman and anyone else wishing to take part scripture number 4 out of a hundred. Would you say there's are rules to overcoming the power of death. After reading the above.

Yes I agree, once people realize that they are in a spiritual war it becomes easier to fight accordingly.

 

[de-emerald]

My perspective is that the devil is looking for the weakest link, so to speak, of Christians who have fallen off the strait and narrow, even momentarily by casually sinning. Demonic spiritual activity increases where there is sin, even a little bit of sin, it isn't necessarily directly proportional to the amount of sin present, but sin creates an opening in the spiritual armor; a weak link in the chainmail if you will. So the devil is opportunistically searching about for someone to devour. This is just personal experience.

I'm beginning to like you. There's a part of this scripture that suggest that sinning is not the only thing that cause a chink in the armour, scripture says a chink in the armour is can be cause by not being alert. And scripture suggest being deceived is something that can cause a UN sober mind to.

Which means it is not necessarily just sin alone from a person, Christian or none Christian that gives power to death would you agree with that possibly being deceived is not a sin. And something that gives power to death

 

[pottersclay]

Hi all as many of you know i am studying demons and what i feel to be a verry important matter.

I also feel its is one of the most important matters to learn and something i have put my heart soul and effort into my whole life studying, to help people with.

This matter is verry important to me and means a lot to me for many reasons, the most important one being that sharing the knowledge of demons and casting them out was the life time work of Jesus christ.

I also feel that as a result of demons, Jesus christ was crucified and all his deciples killed. Jesus christ was fighting a war on demons, and its one of the reasons he was crucified on the cross a long with others.

I love Jesus,


I dont think this poll question has ever come up here.

Saint the answer is no. No one was given authority other than jesus and jesus shares it with us.
Jesus said no man takes my life but I Jesus lay it down.
Demons trouble christians by oppression but that can be caused by many things.
But for them to inflict physical pain or sickness according to the book of job permission from God must be obtained.
I must ask ...why are you studying demonic attributes? Little is taught in the bible about them other than they are liars and destroyers and soon all will be cast in the lake of fire.
I think you would be best serving the Lord by increasing your knowledge and wisdom in God.

 

[de-emerald]

Through no fault of my own, I have been hounded by a denomic beings my whole, life. at a very young age denomic beings would take up the appearance of my best friend my father my brother and on a regular basis and deceive me .. And deceive me into all most killing my self on many many occasions it tried this and almost succeeded, by getting me to do dangerous dare devil acts, which none of my friend's father or brother never admitted to asking me to do those dare devil acts, the denomic being that I am hounded by is a child killer and the same type you see in Job 1 and in Adam in and Eve able to take up the appearance of any living person or animal and deceive people quite easily.
And possess people.

I'm not going into anymore detail than that because I have people, who think it's a good idea to insult my integrity because of that. And also love each other for it here and applaud each other and get away making fun of me and even go to extreme measures in belittling me over something that they have no idea what there dealing with.

Church fathers believe the reason I am hounded by denomic beings so much is because I have a gift for seeing them.
I believes also I have a gift of being able to cast out demons. When I was a child I stopped children my brothers and sisters being killed by demons who would take up the appearance of people. My brothers and sisters would be deceived but I saw through there appearance, and saw them whispering in my brothers and sisters ears where no one else did.

I guarded my brothers and sisters when ever i could after that. But as a result of guarding my brothers and sister this way I then became subject to more and more hounding and attacks. Many many times denomic beings have ruined my life and damaged me in ways you could not possibly imagine, trying something new on everyday.



So now through no fault of my own I have become a theologian in this field. I plan to do ministry work for the lord for the 15 years I have studied denomic beings in every religious book there is to study.
hey potters I'll give you some brief insight into my life and why I'm studying the way I study.

Through no fault of my own, I have been hounded by a denomic beings my whole, life. at a very young age denomic beings would take up the appearance of my best friend my father my brother and on a regular basis and deceive me .. And deceive me into all most killing my self on many many occasions it tried this and almost succeeded, by getting me to do dangerous dare devil acts, which none of my friend's father or brother never admitted to asking me to do those dare devil acts, the denomic being that I am hounded by is a child killer and the same type you see in Job 1 and in Adam in and Eve able to take up the appearance of any living person or animal and deceive people quite easily.
And possess people in the blink of eye able to go from person to person as quick as Satan and his power of death spread to every man after Adam and Eve or as quick as how Satan entered Judas this is what I am dealing with.

I'm not going into anymore detail than that because I have people, who think it's a good idea to insult my integrity because of that. And also love each other for it here and applaud each other and get away with making fun of me and even go to extreme measures, in belittling me over something that they have no idea what there dealing with.

Church fathers believe the reason I am hounded by denomic beings so much is because I have a gift for seeing them.
I believes also I have a gift of being able to cast out demons. When I was a child I stopped children my brothers and sisters being killed by demons who would take up the appearance of people. My brothers and sisters would be deceived but I saw through there appearance, and saw them whispering in my brothers and sisters ears where no one else did.

I guarded my brothers and sisters when ever i could after that. But as a result of guarding my brothers and sister this way I then became subject to more and more hounding and attacks. Many many times denomic beings have ruined my life and damaged me in ways you could not possibly imagine, trying something new on everyday.



So now through no fault of my own I have become a theologian in this field. I plan to do ministry work for the lord for the last 15 years I have studied denomic beings and there mentality and ways in every religious book there is to read. And they all line up with my life. And many many other people life's ,, so I have made it my goal to fight back.

 

[de-emerald]

edit for the above post
Through no fault of my own, I have been hounded by a denomic beings my whole, life. at a very young age denomic beings would take up the appearance of my best friend my father my brother and on a regular basis and deceive me .. And deceive me into all most killing my self on many many occasions it tried this and almost succeeded, by getting me to do dangerous dare devil acts, which none of my friend's father or brother never admitted to asking me to do those dare devil acts, the denomic being that I am hounded by is a child killer and the same type you see in Job 1 and in Adam in and Eve able to take up the appearance of any living person or animal and deceive people quite easily.
And possess people.

I'm not going into anymore detail than that because I have people, who think it's a good idea to insult my integrity because of that. And also love each other for it here and applaud each other and get away making fun of me and even go to extreme measures in belittling me over something that they have no idea what there dealing with.

Church fathers believe the reason I am hounded by denomic beings so much is because I have a gift for seeing them.
I believes also I have a gift of being able to cast out demons. When I was a child I stopped children my brothers and sisters being killed by demons who would take up the appearance of people. My brothers and sisters would be deceived but I saw through there appearance, and saw them whispering in my brothers and sisters ears where no one else did.

I guarded my brothers and sisters when ever i could after that. But as a result of guarding my brothers and sister this way I then became subject to more and more hounding and attacks. Many many times denomic beings have ruined my life and damaged me in ways you could not possibly imagine, trying something new on everyday.



So now through no fault of my own I have become a theologian in this field. I plan to do ministry work for the lord for the 15 years I have studied denomic beings in every religious book there is to study.
hey @potters I'll give you some brief insight into my life and why I'm studying the way I study.

So now through no fault of my own I have become a theologian in this field. I plan to do ministry work for the lord for the last 15 years I have studied denomic beings and there mentality and ways in every religious book there is to read. And they all line up with my life. And many many other people life's ,, so I have made it my goal to fight back.

 

[de-emerald]

Getting back tothe topic at hand now and anyone can answer. including my good friend @Dino246 who thinks this topic is over or defunct as he puts it, but may i ask on whos authority is this topic over. ?. and also my very good friend @SophieT can answer to. if you both wish to take part that is.

The Serpent's Deception
1Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field that the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden?’”

would anyone agree that a denomic being was appossing the lord in this scripture.
and if your answer is yes then why do people then go on to believe that the father was using satan as an instrument to accuse people of sin, when quite clearly Satan was aposing the lord here.

again i ask lets not fall out over this question but aswer the question.

 

[Dino246]

Getting back tothe topic at hand now and anyone can answer. including my good friend @Dino246 who thinks this topic is over or defunct as he puts it, but may i ask on whos authority is this topic over. ?

Read my post more carefully. When you understand what I actually wrote, you will not need to ask that question.

 

[OIC1965]

Would it be a demon that God would sends to a christian to avenge sin, ? God could send an avenging angel, possibly

Or shoulnt the holy spirit convict the christian of sin ?. (and not a demon)

Unless im mistaken demons are angels that have rebelled and seperated from God

A demon's goal would be to try to get you to stop abiding in Christ, to destroy your life and to prevent you from bearing fruit. God allows us to be tempted because it is the normal part of the spiritual war that we are in, but God promises to not allow us to be tempted above what we are able to bear, but will provide a way of escape. Lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil.

 

[pottersclay]

edit for the above post
Through no fault of my own, I have been hounded by a denomic beings my whole, life. at a very young age denomic beings would take up the appearance of my best friend my father my brother and on a regular basis and deceive me .. And deceive me into all most killing my self on many many occasions it tried this and almost succeeded, by getting me to do dangerous dare devil acts, which none of my friend's father or brother never admitted to asking me to do those dare devil acts, the denomic being that I am hounded by is a child killer and the same type you see in Job 1 and in Adam in and Eve able to take up the appearance of any living person or animal and deceive people quite easily.
And possess people.

I'm not going into anymore detail than that because I have people, who think it's a good idea to insult my integrity because of that. And also love each other for it here and applaud each other and get away making fun of me and even go to extreme measures in belittling me over something that they have no idea what there dealing with.

Church fathers believe the reason I am hounded by denomic beings so much is because I have a gift for seeing them.
I believes also I have a gift of being able to cast out demons. When I was a child I stopped children my brothers and sisters being killed by demons who would take up the appearance of people. My brothers and sisters would be deceived but I saw through there appearance, and saw them whispering in my brothers and sisters ears where no one else did.

I guarded my brothers and sisters when ever i could after that. But as a result of guarding my brothers and sister this way I then became subject to more and more hounding and attacks. Many many times denomic beings have ruined my life and damaged me in ways you could not possibly imagine, trying something new on everyday.



So now through no fault of my own I have become a theologian in this field. I plan to do ministry work for the lord for the 15 years I have studied denomic beings in every religious book there is to study.
hey @potters I'll give you some brief insight into my life and why I'm studying the way I study.

So now through no fault of my own I have become a theologian in this field. I plan to do ministry work for the lord for the last 15 years I have studied denomic beings and there mentality and ways in every religious book there is to read. And they all line up with my life. And many many other people life's ,, so I have made it my goal to fight back.

Brother imo you need to close this door. Are you willing to do this? Do you want to?
What is meant by church father's?

 

[SophieT]

Getting back tothe topic at hand now and anyone can answer. including my good friend @Dino246 who thinks this topic is over or defunct as he puts it, but may i ask on whos authority is this topic over. ?. and also my very good friend @SophieT can answer to. if you both wish to take part that is.

The Serpent's Deception
1Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field that the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden?’”

would anyone agree that a denomic being was appossing the lord in this scripture.
and if your answer is yes then why do people then go on to believe that the father was using satan as an instrument to accuse people of sin, when quite clearly Satan was aposing the lord here.

again i ask lets not fall out over this question but aswer the question.

later

as in much

maybe never?

we'll see

 

[de-emerald]

Brother imo you need to close this door. Are you willing to do this? Do you want to?
What is meant by church father's?

IMO ItS simply is not that easy to close the door on the power of death, as much as i have tried the power of death is a power that is not in my control.

At most we can stand firm in our faith and resist and endure and belief in Good. but the power of death does not flee all togeather when you resist,, no it does not, and through no fault of your own, angles of death who have the power of death come back and try to kill you again. and those angels of death are many. an invisable enemy you must be trained to the highest hilt to identify they are there. when you dont see them. which means always being alert and always watching for this enemy. that is not an easy task at first because people quicly forget relax and let ther guard down.

We have not yet received the incorruptible flesh which means we have to endure until the end and run the race until the end, which means being hounded by hounds of hell and the power of death, Which as spread through out mankind. For 7000 years.

Our body and mind is flesh and it is still corrupable and a magnet for power of death.

What christians fail to recognise is at present imo, it is the spirit that is protected our (soul) but are flesh is still week mind and body. untill we receive the incorruptible flesh, so then you can close that door as much you like, our advasary is still going to corrupt your flesh, how do i know that well follow my next post. it says all mans flesh became corrupted by the power of death.

At present for christians i believe the soul is protected but still we have weekness in our armour,because we await the incorruptible flesh.

there for we must put on the full armor evry day and be ready for war.

Are you ready for war today may i ask.

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

the war the battle is untill the end for every person and you would do well to remember that.

For the simple reason that if you believe that the war is completely won then your Guard is likely to be dropped, and we are informed not to drop our guard against the adversary.

Jesus Christ won the war against Satan so every new living person that comes into existence may have a chance, but every new living person still has to fight that war with the help of Jesus of course. So you seem to be taking the notion that all demons and all evil spirits have been destroyed that they are not here on this earth is that correct.

Yeshua won the battle on Calvary and now He has restored covenant with the bride, it is now up to you and me to be under His protection or wander into the wilderness without Him.

I never said the spirits are destroyed, that is not Biblical.......

 

[de-emerald]

Read my post more carefully. When you understand what I actually wrote, you will not need to ask that question.

I have answerd you, anyhow here is a more in depth study of my anwser in more detail.

roman 5:12
Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin,
and so death spread to all men because all sinned.

Imo the above scripture says sin came into the world. its important to understand the above passage clearly suggests that sin was not born of this world. that it came into the world.
it also then says that death came into the world to, which means they both came from outside of the world and entered through one man. then it says that death and sin passed on very quickly to all mankind. also at this time satan had come into this world, we later find out in scripture satan was holding the power of death and corrupting people, and we know that all of makinds spirit (souls) became infected with the power of death and sin that came into the world. imo it was not just sin and death spreading from man to man but satan with it, and the power of death which satan held, which clearly is suggesting mankind was not ready for that. ok so baring this in mind let us move forward

Hebrews 2:14 KJV
14Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood,
he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might
destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

here we see clear proof of Satan holding the power of death.


1 Corinthians 15:26 KJV
26The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

who is the last enemy to be destroyed here ? and who was holding the powerof death
rev 20:14
Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire.
This is the second death, the lake of fire.

who is death here in this scripture and who was holding the power of death

Mathew 25:41

Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Could that devil and his angels here also be death and hades ?

now does satan still hold some power of death, and has he stole it in.

because the question should be is how can a living creation become the power of death,

but i know people here want to believe mankind gave satan the power of death. which imo needs to be challenged

 

[Dino246]

I have answerd you, anyhow here is a more in depth study of my anwser in more detail.

roman 5:12
Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin,
and so death spread to all men because all sinned.

Imo the above scripture says sin came into the world. its important to understand the above passage clearly suggests that sin was not born of this world. that it came into the world.
it also then says that death came into the world to, which means they both came from outside of the world and entered through one man. then it says that death and sin passed on very quickly to all mankind. also at this time satan had come into this world, we later find out in scripture satan was holding the power of death and corrupting people, and we know that all of makinds spirit (souls) became infected with the power of death and sin that came into the world. imo it was not just sin and death spreading from man to man but satan with it, and the power of death which satan held, which clearly is suggesting mankind was not ready for that. ok so baring this in mind let us move forward

Hebrews 2:14 KJV
14Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood,
he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might
destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

here we see clear proof of Satan holding the power of death.


1 Corinthians 15:26 KJV
26The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

who is the last enemy to be destroyed here ? and who was holding the powerof death
rev 20:14
Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire.
This is the second death, the lake of fire.

who is death here in this scripture and who was holding the power of death

Mathew 25:41

Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Could that devil and his angels here also be death and hades ?

now does satan still hold some power of death, and has he stole it in.

because the question should be is how can a living creation become the power of death,

but i know people here want to believe mankind gave satan the power of death. which imo needs to be challenged

You are ignoring Revelation 20 where the devil and death are clearly distinguished from each other.

No amount of bad grammar and bafflegab can undo this clear distinction. Satan is not death, and death is not Satan. Please, stop wasting your time trying to prove something that is plainly wrong.

 

[de-emerald]

You are ignoring Revelation 20 where the devil and death are clearly distinguished from each other.

No amount of bad grammar and bafflegab can undo this clear distinction. Satan is not death, and death is not Satan. Please, stop wasting your time trying to prove something that is plainly wrong.

You still havent answered the question how satan a creation under God come to hold the powerof death.

when you answer this question or even give it much thought. then you may have an answer for your question and then you may think and see satan became as powerful as death and became death, because he controled death.

yes the two words are different. but now satan controled death which means death was now satans.

satan became death. how did satan a living creation under God get to hold the power of death and control it. If you dont understand the question then please say so.