Is America evil?

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What's unbelievable that you did not read what he said in his OP. "I can’t be a Christian and just excuse this stuff. "
I think he was implying that we are all conditioned to some degree by American society to think of the USA as the good guys. "Christian Nation" "A Force for Good in the World" "American soldiers are heroes" etc. Things that are not really true if you apply any scrutiny.
 
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How can the Wuhan virus suddenly become "the American virus"? Here is a good example of Chinese trickery and propaganda. All of a sudden people stopped saying "Chinese virus" and "Wuhan virus" and switched to COVID-19. And now it has suddenly become the "American virus" and China is "innocent"!

Let's not forget that China deliberately suppressed the truth about everything that was happening in China since August, 2019, and then coached the world to follows China's protocols so that the truth would never come out. And to top it off, the stupid Western leaders actually paid China millions to provide masks (many defective) and other medical equipment, instead of demanding reparations from China!

"A surge in hospital visits and internet searches related to COVID-19 symptoms from the Chinese city of Wuhan suggests the coronavirus may have been circulating since August 2019, according to a preliminary study by researchers at Boston University and Harvard."
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-coronavirus-emerged-summer.html

When word leaked out that it was the Wuhan Institute of Virology which had released the Wuhan virus (according to a Chinese virologist who escaped from China), then China quickly put out a bogus report that the virus originated in the wet markets of Wuhan.

And since all the Western mainstream media and WHO were in China's pockets, they all began to speak of a "conspiracy theory" about the origin of the virus so that they could protect China and blame someone else. Of course Xi Jinping and his gang of thugs were simply laughing at the *stupid Gwailo*! But the truth has come out regarding the gain-of-function research done by Chinese virologists with American cash. That is how it became the "American virus".
Eh, both sides are slinging propaganda. Gain of function research began in a lab in North Carolina. Fauci was involved, as was the Chinese "bat lady" whose name I don't remember. When it began to look promising, strings were pulled and the project was moved to Wuhan. Basically more proof of what you mentioned in another post. The CCP has numerous spies and plants here in the US in academia and research, and they steal the best stuff for China. There are plenty of Americans who collaborate with the CCP as well.

It's obvious if you are paying attention that we are being undermined and taken over. For example, the NBA partnering with China and having a message broadcast at one of their recent games HERE by some Chinese official. Sellouts for money, because US basketball is popular and China and the NBA can smell the dirty $$$. The Olympics will be a humiliation of the West by China in many ways. Get used to seeing American athletes wearing slave muzzles.

But it was the Chinese that released the virus.
 

Nehemiah6

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I think he was implying that we are all conditioned to some degree by American society to think of the USA as the good guys. "Christian Nation" "A Force for Good in the World" "American soldiers are heroes" etc. Things that are not really true if you apply any scrutiny.
We need to look at two things at the same time: (1) the founding principles and the Constitution of the United States (which is second to none) which is based on the rule of law and (2) the sleazebags who have basically hijacked America for their own evil agenda and trampled on the Constitution and the rule of law. These people are in fact "domestic enemies" and should be subject to military prosecution.

Trump started out with the right idea -- "Make America Great Again". Then he sabotaged himself and allowed himself to be sabotaged. Now Mike Pence is falsely claiming that he did not have the power to overturn a fraudulent election. But he did have that constitutional power as president of the Senate, and those who voted for Trump expected him to bring everything to a standstill. Instead he turned traitor and betrayed America.
 

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This land had inhabitants at the time the Europeans came to America. History says they came for religious freedom and to be out from under the tariffs and taxation of Britian.

Maybe so. Instead what have we seen,they began pushing the indigenous people off their lands for white settlements,the more that came the more they pushed.

Then we saw egregious hunger for power take over as the land was taken over. Men here bought from other countries slaves,sold by their own countrymen,to work the land.

This country has never been alright or ok with God.
However he has blessed us despite our despicable sins toward himself and other people's.

We have lost many lives and caused much death in the name of freedom. Judgment is coming to America,a country that is only about 250 years old and has caught up with the rest of the evil that men do across the world.


This is not my country,I am a foreigner and a stranger here for my home is where God abides
 

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I sure am glad Jesus didn't come and look at the world and be like "Man, this world is evil! I don't love this world anymore. I'm not dying for these murderers and fornicators- would you? Peace out, y'all."

I don't believe for a second that the anti-american sentiments that have been expressed on CC lately originate from God at all.

I can definitely understand being disappointed at times... there are some bad people around, and some bad laws on the books, but that shouldn't be the way you characterize the country. There are people in every state doing good. Several attempts to squash religious rights have been thwarted. You don't give up on God's providence for your nation when things become difficult.
 
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No one is asking them to act according to biblical standards. Just the ordinary standards of good governance and subjection to the Constitution. People who go into government and military service take an oath of office. No one forces them to either run for office, apply to the military, or take that oath if they are unwilling to abide by it. But as we can see, few are actually doing what they pledged to do.
Bro, the world knows that the United States is founded by Christianity, and the president takes the oath with a Bible in his hand. However, in recent decades, the LEADERSHIP of the United States has often acted with double standards. It is not strict with itself, but it always criticizes other countries' regimes. Advocate "human rights" and "freedom" every day ,I don't think it's good for a person to be completely free. Sometimes the devil encourages people to commit crimes in a "loose" state.Freedom in the Lord is true freedom.
 

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Abortion
Gay Marriage
Sex Change
Destruction of the Family by Women's Rights
Allow multiple Belief Systems after making Covenant with God before becoming a Nation
Democrats

America [is no longer] a Nation devoted to God, she has turned from God and serves a new god!
We were warned about all this thousands of years ago.

I just don't get why we're all actin' so surprised.

Or why we're thinkin' we can do something to stop it.
 

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Ok everybody......
Let's just sit down and give up........
Yeah right......
 

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Think of all the stuff that goes on in this country. Abortion, transgender whatever, confiscatory taxation, corruption and theft at the highest levels of government. You could spend all day making a list. Evil is good and good is evil.

If China were doing half the things America does, conservatives would condemn that country. Seems like they look the other way when it’s being done in their own backyard.

Basically what I’m saying is that I’ve lost my love for America. I can’t be a Christian and just excuse this stuff.

Um China is much worse than America, and conservatives do condemn them. On the other hand, no one wants to personally go there and be killed. So...

I'm not a fan of liberalism, but China is communism. I would join my enemies against that. Nothing else has killed more people than communism. Granted I don't know the abortion statistics verses communism. They have to be close.

I wouldn't say being transgender, killing babies, etc. Is American. In my opinion 80% of people in America want a great economy, freedom, and reduced crime for families. That's it... but even if only 20% of our country are criminals that's still millions. In other words it seems like this is what our country has turned into. That's bc of the Marxism push.

I do think Americans should start standing up to people more and calling people out. You see a parent with a "transgender " child. Call them out on it. Go to school board meetings. Volunteer at elections. Etc.
 

JTB

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Ok everybody......
Let's just sit down and give up........
Yeah right......
No, just the contrary, it's time to knee up and start warring. The only question is, who are you warring for? The red? The blue? Or the cross? Because while the first two are indeed connected, the latter stands all on it's own.

This is not a war that will be won by earthly means.

And so our time and effort ought not be spent on earthly means.
 

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Um China is much worse than America, and conservatives do condemn them. On the other hand, no one wants to personally go there and be killed. So...

I'm not a fan of liberalism, but China is communism. I would join my enemies against that. Nothing else has killed more people than communism. Granted I don't know the abortion statistics verses communism. They have to be close.

I wouldn't say being transgender, killing babies, etc. Is American. In my opinion 80% of people in America want a great economy, freedom, and reduced crime for families. That's it... but even if only 20% of our country are criminals that's still millions. In other words it seems like this is what our country has turned into. That's bc of the Marxism push.

I do think Americans should start standing up to people more and calling people out. You see a parent with a "transgender " child. Call them out on it. Go to school board meetings. Volunteer at elections. Etc.
At least we haven't started "post-birth abortion" yet. Talk about pure evil. I don't want to say where that's happening because if I misremembered, that would be highly offensive to whichever country. It's a real thing, though. Although, the rooms they take babies that survived abortions to so that they can die out of the womb....oh it's all so horrible. The world is just evil. We have to keep our focus on God and sharing His love.
 
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Um China is much worse than America, and conservatives do condemn them. On the other hand, no one wants to personally go there and be killed. So...

I'm not a fan of liberalism, but China is communism. I would join my enemies against that. Nothing else has killed more people than communism. Granted I don't know the abortion statistics verses communism. They have to be close.

I wouldn't say being transgender, killing babies, etc. Is American. In my opinion 80% of people in America want a great economy, freedom, and reduced crime for families. That's it... but even if only 20% of our country are criminals that's still millions. In other words it seems like this is what our country has turned into. That's bc of the Marxism push.

I do think Americans should start standing up to people more and calling people out. You see a parent with a "transgender " child. Call them out on it. Go to school board meetings. Volunteer at elections. Etc.
None of this makes America not evil.
 
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You don’t really believe this I hope. We have destabilized the entire Middle East many times over, used drones to murder people, and exported violence in the form of useless and illegal wars. We even prevent Israel from fully defending itself against her enemies.
Im not up on things in Isreal as I used to be, im a major zionist. Isreal is the country of my heart. I know that we saw biblical prophecy fulfilled when the embasy was moved back to Jerusalem. We are supported to love and support Isreal and the jews as they are god people. You are right the debacle in the middle east was huge and caused us damage to an entire generation of young men and really did nothing to help. Do I think America is evil no but I think a vast majority of its peoole are.
 

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I can see your honesty, Why are you bothered by things that belong to this world, which is not spiritual life.

If someone makes a political right, Someone has to set up an enemy, and then you have to pay for it with all your rest life.sad......
The world is the way that it is because the church is the way that it is. Christian freedoms are being eroded continually. Personally, I prefer to be able to meet without worrying about secret police watching my every move and me risking prison for preaching the gospel. And that is already happening in some "Christian" countries, including England, where I was born. It's not yet North Korea, but if the Church in the west does not wake up, that's what awaits us.
 

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Do I think America is evil no but I think a vast majority of its people are.
If you go strictly by crime and jail statistics (and also deem all politicians and government agencies as criminals), you will still find that the evil people and criminals are a small minority (say 2-3%).

I'm talking about criminality at all levels. Now if (a) the rule of law were a reality, (b) the hands of the police were not tied, and (c) the judges were doing their jobs, most of these criminals would be behind bars. Should Joe and Hunter Biden have been locked up a few years ago? Had Joseph Biden been behind bars, imagine what a difference that could have made.
 
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"A higher plane," hehe
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This land had inhabitants at the time the Europeans came to America. History says they came for religious freedom and to be out from under the tariffs and taxation of Britian.

Maybe so. Instead what have we seen,they began pushing the indigenous people off their lands for white settlements,the more that came the more they pushed.

Then we saw egregious hunger for power take over as the land was taken over. Men here bought from other countries slaves,sold by their own countrymen,to work the land.

This country has never been alright or ok with God.
However he has blessed us despite our despicable sins toward himself and other people's.

We have lost many lives and caused much death in the name of freedom. Judgment is coming to America,a country that is only about 250 years old and has caught up with the rest of the evil that men do across the world.


This is not my country,I am a foreigner and a stranger here for my home is where God abides
While a great many people came here to be able to worship freely, that is only half of the story. America has never been a truly Christian nation. Many other cults, pagan religions, secret societies, and mystery schools came to America as well because they could not operate as freely as they would have liked in the Christianized Old World.

If you read Hawthorne, for example, you can see the pagan/druidic influences in his work. There has always been a battle here in America between good and evil.

Visit old graveyards as an example. You'll see crosses and Christian symbols of course. You'll also see a lot of Freemasonic symbols on grave stones as well as Masonic obelisk grave markers. Freemasonry is a container that allows Satanism to exist within Christianized societies.

The 33rd degree of Freemasonry correlates to the 1/3 of fallen angels that rebelled against God with Lucifer.

Now go look around your local state or city. You will find that Masonic lodges and temples are as commonplace as churches. The secret one-eyed religion has been here a long, long time.
 
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"A higher plane," hehe
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Im not up on things in Isreal as I used to be, im a major zionist. Isreal is the country of my heart. I know that we saw biblical prophecy fulfilled when the embasy was moved back to Jerusalem. We are supported to love and support Isreal and the jews as they are god people. You are right the debacle in the middle east was huge and caused us damage to an entire generation of young men and really did nothing to help. Do I think America is evil no but I think a vast majority of its peoole are.
Which Zion? God's Zion, or man's Zion? There is a difference.

When the Third Temple is rebuilt, it will be a symbol of man's Zion, not God's. The Antichrist will ascend there and claim godhood. But because so many nominal Christians do not understand the difference between God's Zion and man's Zion, many will be deceived by him.
 
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Lol. Tell me more about your love for baby killing socialist godless America.

Check out what God thought of Israel in the OT. They didn’t slaughter babies like America does. Or the other stuff we do.
Do you really want to know what God's doing right now? He's laughing. Read the 2nd pslam again.
As I said in my post this is not america....in 2 close to 3 yrs ago you probably wouldn't of even considered half the things that the Lord has exposed.
It's been around for quite some time.
Don't get caught up in the media hoopla, the false news .
Most people don't even consider that the media only talks about the 3 to5% of the population.
They are the ones that the media gave a voice to.
So I ask you what's missing? Don't hear much from the evangelicals.....why? Guess there to busy entertaining.
I am sure glad jesus didn't stop loving me when I was yet to be saved....or even after I was and ran into some ruff patches.
 

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Basically what I’m saying is that I’ve lost my love for America. I can’t be a Christian and just excuse this stuff.
Since all have sinned and fallen short of God's glory, what country will you love?
Jesus loved us while we were sinners.
We are not called to love 'countries', we are called to proclaim the good news of redemption to a dying world.
 
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pottersclay

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Lol. Tell me more about your love for baby killing socialist godless America.

Check out what God thought of Israel in the OT. They didn’t slaughter babies like America does. Or the other stuff we do.
• Many abortion patients reported a religious affiliation—24% were Catholic, 17% were mainline Protestant, 13% were evangelical Protestant and 8% identified with some other religion. Thirty-eight percent of patients had no religious affiliation.

The Pew Research Center found Protestant individuals (anyone who identified themselves as non-Catholic, but Christian) included 74% of all Christians, and had a divorce rate of approximately 51 percent out of a sampling of 4,752 individuals

What's wrong with this picture???
God called us to be holy people. The same as Israel.
Ever notice God judged Israel many times for practicing pagan customs.