what are your thoughts of Apostle Kathryn Krick

[CS1]

How about a quote and which translation?

OK,

KJV, NKJV, NIV pick one to attack

 

[Duckybill]

OK,

KJV, NKJV, NIV pick one to attack

Junia my kinsman?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I think it says they are "ones sent " = apostles and they were highly regarded because of the office they had. If read on and before this Paul mentioned many positions, not just apostles. IF this was just Paul's highly regarded, that must be applied to the others.

Rom 16:3-15

3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila, my fellow workers in Christ Jesus, 4 who risked their own necks for my life, to whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles. 5 Likewise greet the church that is in their house.

Greet my beloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia to Christ. 6 Greet Mary, who labored much for us. 7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my countrymen and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

8 Greet Amplias, my beloved in the Lord. 9 Greet Urbanus, our fellow worker in Christ, and Stachys, my beloved. 10 Greet Apelles, approved in Christ. Greet those who are of the household of Aristobulus. 11 Greet Herodion, my [b]countryman. Greet those who are of the household of Narcissus who are in the Lord.

12 Greet Tryphena and Tryphosa, who have labored in the Lord. Greet the beloved Persis, who labored much in the Lord. 13 Greet Rufus, chosen in the Lord, and his mother and mine. 14 Greet Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermas, Patrobas, Hermes, and the brethren who are with them. 15 Greet Philologus and Julia, Nereus and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints who are with them.

bekng a fellow worker doesn’t translate to bekng an apostle though again

“Greet Andronicus and Junia, my countrymen and my fellow prisoners,who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.”

I think he’s saying greet these two who are of note among the apostles , the “apostles have taken note of them “

the rest there doesn’t say anything about apostles there were many workers and many messengers

prophets are workers and messengers , teachers carry a message , pastors ect but that doesn’t make them apostles there are 12 apostles specifically called by Jesus in person , appointed to apostleship by Jesus in person , Bono yes and empowered bunbesus in person to be an apostle .

When we see the kingdom its boundary wall has only 12 foundations .

“And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

those 12 apostles will be the same 12 that Jesus himself chose in the New Testament. The eleven appointed after the resurrection and then Paul also chosen by Jesus and appointed by him in person to specifically be an apostle

the reason they appear as the foundations of the kingdom is because they are the ones who were chosen to witness the gospel of the kingdom to all the world. Thier wotness completed the scriptire and makes uo e New Testament that is the witness

the apostles of Jesus Christ are 12. And thier witness is the foundation of Christianity in the world even the four gospels are thier witness of Jesus along with the epistles and revelation

when the apostles all doed scripture ends and thier witness is established me still today home who reads a Bible is hearing thier witness.

just again how I see it Jesus recognizes 12 apostles and it’s going to on my opinion be the same 12 mean he chose on earth including Paul and excluding Judas and Matthias who wasn’t chosen by Jesus or by an apostle with the Holy Spirit but by casting lots

it’s just a matter of how one reads that Verse

“ greet these two , they are of note among the apostles , who we’re in Christ before me “ is what I read seems legit to me but it’s only my view doesn’t mean anything g more than that’s what I personally read there

 

[Heaven_Bound]

Must remember, the translators of the KJV admit they were [unfamiliar] with Koine Greek. So much of the New Testament is translated according to Hellenized Classical Greek.

The Version I posted is Koine Greek:
7 Salute Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and my fellow-prisoners, who are well known among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

And you can see that Junia is actually Junia(s) with an "S"

 

[Pilgrimshope]

7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my countrymen and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

Well from this alone, Andronicus and Junia, were well known with the Disciples [Apostles] before Paul got involved.

I agree, they are not Apostles, but are well known to the Apostles.

I agree I think it’s just a matter of how we read that verse regarding the context .

 

[Heaven_Bound]

I agree I think it’s just a matter of how we read that verse regarding the context .

Amen!

 

[CS1]

Junia my kinsman?

LOL

many do try to rip out the context.

my kinsmen( means jewsapplied to both males & females) , and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles,

 

[peldom10]

Remember....God has the information we need in scriptures;


Repentance
Baptism
Live a righteous life until the end by keeping ALL of God's commandments.

Out of the 66 books of the Bible with some 35/36 authors these three elements are clear and presented in many ways so that a child of ten can understand them.

Therefore, fear not that which is not clear.

 

[Marilyn]

I'll be sure to let you know sister. I did a quick skim read of all fifteen chapters in about an hour. It's the size of a Master of Divinity thesis. I was somewhat surprised by the subject - in as much as I was surprised by the US and Iraq meaning set in an Islamic jurisprudent eschatology. I was also taken by the British Empire (confederacy) meaning - what is called pax Britannica in historical terms because the Islam - Religion of Peace became visible out of Egypt and the battle of the River Plate under British rule in both its religious meaning - Peace with Allah (lesser Jihad (Medina)) and then in its religious meaning out of India - Ahmadi messianic doctrine and a putting away of lesser Jihad in favour of greater Jihad (Mecca). It mirrors Qur'an and it didn't really become visible until the 19th Century in the Meccan recitation as Greater Jihad as a sense of Noble Islam - whereas the Medinan recitation is murderous and barbaric - the so-called Lesser Jihad.

I was also taken by the Mossad link reference and the significance of that with a WWII German super gun - that I will have to research to verify - but I was especially taken by the reference to Saddam Hussain (Baath Party) because I worked with a former Islamic Scholar and jurisprudent Imam who did his PhD in Hadith Science in Mecca and his grandfather was an Imam to Hussain in a Mosque in Iraq. The book seems to be somewhat detailed in once sense but I think I will read it more carefully because it is a theme I tend to have ignored myself - not because I can't see the relevance prophetically - but rather because I have been called to the house and to the issue of apostasy with its helping hand to the end time events eluded to in the book.

Thank you Rhomphaeam, for your thoughtful reply. Yes my uncle had studied in quite detail what you referenced and I see that you have even more understanding in your area. Much appreciated.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

LOL

many do try to rip out the context.

my kinsmen( means jewsapplied to both males & females) , and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles,

“and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles

 

[CS1]

“and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles

YEP THAT LITTLE WORD "of " MEANS to be. and if you look at other translations they are called to BE apostles. So. she was an apostle I.e. One who was sent.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

YEP THAT LITTLE WORD "of " MEANS to be. and if you look at other translations they are called to BE apostles. So. she was an apostle I.e. One who was sent.

yea I understand that’s your idea.

Takes too much explaining that’s not found in scripture though has to come from you and other sources you’ve read.

it reads like it does seems to me it says one thing , to you it seems like it says another

I’m good with that conclusion

 

[ResidentAlien]

If you want to know about Kathryn Krick, you have to know about GeorDavie Maarifa: https://narconnections.com/kathryn-krick-2/

They're both connected to the New Apostolic Reformation. Wolves and false prophets both. The fact that people would even entertain the idea that either one of them are legit shows clearly the times we're in.

 

[ResidentAlien]

That young woman in the video that Krick is supposedly casting a demon out of can also be seen in a Bob Larson video getting demons cast out. I haven't been able to find it lately but I'm 100% sure I've seen it.

 

[CS1]

yea I understand that’s your idea.

Takes too much explaining that’s not found in scripture though has to come from you and other sources you’ve read.

it reads like it does seems to me it says one thing , to you it seems like it says another

I’m good with that conclusion

actually, it is. the problem is one who will refuse to see in the Old Testament as in the New Testament women held offices like Prophet and Judge. And also Prophesied by the prophet Joel that the Spirit of God would be poured out on women too for what reason? . In the New Testament, we see it. Women prophesied, instructed, and taught the word of God. that is in the Bible, not what I am saying it is what is right in both Old and New as normative and not descriptive.

Joel 2, the Book of Acts, and in the body of Christ as we read in 1cor chapter 11. Janice was one who was sent i.e. an apostle "a" not an "A" Apostle. You are in the four-fold ministry which is apostles, prophets, evangelists, and Pastors. The teacher was added later.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

actually, it is. the problem is one who will refuse to see in the Old Testament as in the New Testament women held offices like Prophet and Judge. And also Prophesied by the prophet Joel that the Spirit of God would be poured out on women too for what reason? . In the New Testament, we see it. Women prophesied, instructed, and taught the word of God. that is in the Bible, not what I am saying it is what is right in both Old and New as normative and not descriptive.

Joel 2, the Book of Acts, and in the body of Christ as we read in 1cor chapter 11. Janice was one who was sent i.e. an apostle "a" not an "A" Apostle. You are in the four-fold ministry which is apostles, prophets, evangelists, and Pastors. The teacher was added later.

yeah I understand your argument I just disagree it’s okay. No ones bound for hell or anything because we don’t agree there on that.

the apostles were chosen and appointed and enabled of God as are prophets teachers ect agreed . Women receive the Holy Spirit just as men and have roles in the church just like men agreed

there are more tHan the twelve specific apostles of Jesus Christ than he chose in scripture I disagree I believe there are the twelve chosen by Jesus. Which thier witness makes up the New Testament scripture.

“I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:6, 8, 11-12, 14, 17-18, 20-

There are twelve men Jesus chose to be his apostles as avid sent him into the world , he sent them into the world. Who had his revelation and understanding learning from him , and preaching to the world his message

12 men traveled with him , he taught them thkngs he didn’t teach others have then authority he didn’t give others then appointed them to a mission he didn’t give others and a glory he didn’t give anyone else

“And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Judas was cut out and Paul was grafted in by Jesus Paul also saw Jesus risen and glorified and was called to be his vessel And witness of the gospel of the kingdom to all People Jew and gentile.

those same apostles witness is written in scripture so anytime we open a Bible even today anywhere in the world we can read a true witness of Jesus and the gospel

my own personal opinion is that there are twelve apostles when we get to eternal life in the kingdom there’s going to be twelve names of Jesus apostles on the foundation of the kingdom wall

I bet it’s gonna be the same twelve apostles Jesus chose on earth including Paul but that’s just my own belief isn’t that important

 

[CS1]

yeah I understand your argument I just disagree it’s okay. No ones bound for hell or anything because we don’t agree there on that.

the apostles were chosen and appointed and enabled of God as are prophets teachers ect agreed . Women receive the Holy Spirit just as men and have roles in the church just like men agreed

there are more tHan the twelve specific apostles of Jesus Christ than he chose in scripture I disagree I believe there are the twelve chosen by Jesus. Which thier witness makes up the New Testament scripture.

“I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:6, 8, 11-12, 14, 17-18, 20-

There are twelve men Jesus chose to be his apostles as avid sent him into the world , he sent them into the world. Who had his revelation and understanding learning from him , and preaching to the world his message

12 men traveled with him , he taught them thkngs he didn’t teach others have then authority he didn’t give others then appointed them to a mission he didn’t give others and a glory he didn’t give anyone else

“And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Judas was cut out and Paul was grafted in by Jesus Paul also saw Jesus risen and glorified and was called to be his vessel And witness of the gospel of the kingdom to all People Jew and gentile.

those same apostles witness is written in scripture so anytime we open a Bible even today anywhere in the world we can read a true witness of Jesus and the gospel

my own personal opinion is that there are twelve apostles when we get to eternal life in the kingdom there’s going to be twelve names of Jesus apostles on the foundation of the kingdom wall

I bet it’s gonna be the same twelve apostles Jesus chose on earth including Paul but that’s just my own belief isn’t that important

You don't know that, but it is a good guess. That being said apostles in just a title is a "work" one does.

 

[soberxp]

Kathryn Krick
From your description, I don't think she is a false prophet, but just a simple imitation, like an imitation show.a cosplay show.

 

[Marilyn]

If you want to know about Kathryn Krick, you have to know about GeorDavie Maarifa: https://narconnections.com/kathryn-krick-2/

They're both connected to the New Apostolic Reformation. Wolves and false prophets both. The fact that people would even entertain the idea that either one of them are legit shows clearly the times we're in.

The NAR are false. That is horrendous.

The New Apostolic Reformation believe that they will take over the 7 mountains of the world - Politics, education, environment, health, entertainment etc and then when all is peace then they will give is to the Lord when He comes. So utterly blasphemous.

 

[CS1]

The NAR are false. That is horrendous.

The New Apostolic Reformation believe that they will take over the 7 mountains of the world - Politics, education, environment, health, entertainment etc and then when all is peace then they will give is to the Lord when He comes. So utterly blasphemous.

they sound a lot like the the "Dominion" types