Interpreting the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus: It's Really Good News!
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I don’t speak for Jesus, but I know Him. He’s probably disappointed you’re so divisive and accusing the brethren of blasphemy. For someone who clearly exhibits no fruits of the Holy Spirit, I’m not that surprised, but I have a sour taste in my mouth that you walk among us claiming to be a Christian. I hope you figure it out one day Ducky.
I’m not a SDA either. I consider myself a non-denominational Bible-believing Christian.
I think what seems to separate me from most others is that I take a strict approach to Bible interpretation that aims to harmonize scripture in a tightly-knit interwoven tapestry free of the contradictions that plague denominations.
I am a genuine seeker of truth and God is my witness for that. The truth is clearly not very popular these days, but that fits the prophecy. People have itching ears and are blinded by their traditions being unable to separate traditions from scriptures.
Ok. So 2 hells, not just one. I was a bit shocked at how easily a hellmonger would contort and twist and land on his two tongues.
So posthuman, shall we continue because I have a lot of conforming to do. I want to go over every verse that you just for one hell now must accommodate 2 hells. Would you like to pause and gather some milk or just take some time get your stories straight? Know that every hellmonger I will dispute from now, I will require they justify 2 hells as per this conversation to avoid wasting any time.
My comment is for you. The basic lessons of long sufferance and patience seems to elude you. Can you even speak for Jesus? Go back and drink some milk while you can, you seem a bit thirsty.
Romans 2: 23You who boast in the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law? 24 As it is written: “ God’s name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.”
I hope you are not saying there are 3 hells.
Very well. Let us see what wonderful fantastic mysteries we have in store.
hades - grave, death, sheol
gehenna - valley of hinnom, garbage dump, (place of idolatry) child sacrifices to molech, (place of destruction) abaddon
tartarus - prison for the titans (greek mythology), abyss, mountain on top of their heads
No hell. All stated in the bible (except for the greek mythology)
Speaking from your perspective, Luke 16 of the OP, which hell is Luke 16:19-31 elucidating and why was it not specified. Proselytize plainly. Don't make me look up extrabiblical info, please.
Stop making up what you think is my perspective.
I've only said, there are at least two deaths explicitly in Scripture, and that in more than a few passages there are clearly multiple meanings of 'death' being used, such that we need to be aware of these things otherwise we will come up with pretty poor misinterpretation.
Apart from that I haven't spoken about hell at all here.
I think it should be abundantly clear that I believe in the persistence of the soul beyond the decomposition of the body into dust. I haven't been cryptic about that.
DNA, or deoxyribonucleic acid, is the hereditary material in humans and almost all other organisms. Nearly every cell in a person’s body has the same DNA. Most DNA is located in the cell nucleus (where it is called nuclear DNA), but a small amount of DNA can also be found in the mitochondria (where it is called mitochondrial DNA or mtDNA). Mitochondria are structures within cells that convert the energy from food into a form that cells can use.
The information in DNA is stored as a code made up of four chemical bases: adenine (A), guanine (G), cytosine (C), and thymine (T). Human DNA consists of about 3 billion bases, and more than 99 percent of those bases are the same in all people. The order, or sequence, of these bases determines the information available for building and maintaining an organism, similar to the way in which letters of the alphabet appear in a certain order to form words and sentences.
DNA bases pair up with each other, A with T and C with G, to form units called base pairs. Each base is also attached to a sugar molecule and a phosphate molecule. Together, a base, sugar, and phosphate are called a nucleotide. Nucleotides are arranged in two long strands that form a spiral called a double helix. The structure of the double helix is somewhat like a ladder, with the base pairs forming the ladder’s rungs and the sugar and phosphate molecules forming the vertical sidepieces of the ladder.
https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/basics/dna/
Exactly what church do you go to? Have you been influenced by someone from Seventh Day Adventists, International Bible Students, Christadelphians, World Wide Church of God, Arian Pentecostal Churches, Arian historical Churches or what?
I don't see how it is missed that Jesus explains a parable to his disciples every time. He never explained Luke 16 to them. At verse 14 Jesus went from using parables to direct teaching. He continues direct teaching after Luke 16.
I hope you are not saying there are 3 hells.
Very well. Let us see what wonderful fantastic mysteries we have in store.
hades - grave, death, sheol
gehenna - valley of hinnom, garbage dump, (place of idolatry) child sacrifices to molech, (place of destruction) abaddon
tartarus - prison for the titans (greek mythology), abyss, mountain on top of their heads
No hell. All stated in the bible (except for the greek mythology)
Speaking from your perspective, Luke 16 of the OP, which hell is Luke 16:19-31 elucidating and why was it not specified. Proselytize plainly. Don't make me look up extrabiblical info, please.
I would suggest to get a King James Bible and stick with it. Hell is for real. Hell is hot. Hell is a place of torture. Hell is located in the heart of the earth. Hell will be cast into the lake of fire. Hell cools off in the new versions.
I apologize. Not seeing the trees because of the forest.
You know I believe the natural state of man is non-existence. We are contingent in this life and the next. Death is just one state that is achieved by the Absence of God. Life is another state that is achieved in the Presence of God. We persist as static information in sheol till Judgement. Our information is permitted dynamic interaction and growth in Salvation. The information deemed unworthy are destroyed as words on a page in a book, ashes scattered by the winds of forgetfulness.
1 Timothy 6:16 , Ecclesiastes 12:7, 2 Corinthians 9:15, Psalm 145:9
The disagreement are from the concepts of Creation.
Mt.25:46 is equal to 2Thes.1:9 and since,
Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend into heaven, You are there; If I make my bed in hell, behold, You are there. Psa.139:7-8
the unsaved won't exist after the final judgement.
There is no repentance after death. Therefore your doctrine of eternal suffering bears false witness of God.
Again my friend, I wouldn't say peopl ewho believe in eternal torment have no love for God. It is an unloving thing to say about God though. It's very difficult when people have been misled for a long time about the character of God to see the truth of what the scriptures say about him.
It's torment for the sins people committed day and night in their lives. The term "forever" may mean eternal, or mean ones whole life. Pray and ask God.
Yes, but that's not the moral of the story. I've never heard one preacher explain why our Lord told that story.
No I'm not. I've shown n a number of posts how all the points of the rich man and Lazarus story are no different from the GWTJ, the judgement seat of Christ, etc. The fact that our Savior will come as a consuming fire shows how the LOF isn't really a place. It's an event.
So tell me something my sincere friend. What's the difference between Rev.19:20 and 2Thes.2:8?