TONGUES is a precious gift from God
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Why did Jesus Christ NOT condemn the woman caught in adultery when He was the ONLY ONE that could cast the first stone?
….and what did He say to her?
Consider God’s ways….and learn them.
Whilst it is true that the Lord came not to condemn the world and He demonstrated that very often with women who were in sin and not least the women who was NOT condemned yet WAS admonished to sin no more - simply advising brethren to sin no more as a mechanism to reduce personal acrimony or the flesh (which ever way we want to say it) or an accusation amounting to a seeming condemnation - that fact will have no fruit in a time when it is doctrine and misshapen claims are the cause of constant divisions. And those divisions will not cease if every member were to fall silent and say yes Ma'am - because even just one voice could lead an entire flock to slaughter.
Apart from Christ, NONE of us are "worthy".....HOWEVER, IN CHRIST - Jesus Christ has made each of us "worthy"... including YOU!!!
@RAWisconsin - IN CHRIST YOU ARE WORTHY to receive EVERYTHING the Father wants to give you!
Pray...
Dear Heavenly Father,
I humble myself before You, repent of all my sins and ask You to take away anything that hinders me from receiving ALL that You have me. I receive the Blood of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of all my sins and it breaks any and every curse ever spoken over me. Also, I receive the Body of Jesus Christ which is the Righteousness of God for me.
Now, with the Blood and Body of Jesus Christ I make Jesus Christ my Savior, Lord and KING - I have no other savior, lord or king, or god. I belong to Jesus Christ.
Seal me, baptize me and fill me with Your Holy Spirit, I pray, ask and receive in the Name of Jesus Christ. Thank You Heavenly Father, amen.
Maybe you can interpret this for me? Thanks,
᾿Εν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος.
Of course He was Divine. He was sent to model for us how we should live. No one since has had the success and power of Holy Spirit working through them.
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ChristianTonyB
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My apologies. I realise that was what you were getting to, and I answered with what could be taken as a rather glib comment.
I could have spelt my answer out better, such as if the stranger was wearing a tshirt with I hate Jesus printed on it, or was standing in the way of others, blocking their path, or had queue jumped, then yes, I would be wary of considering them as being a Christian. But it's not for me to judge who will be saved, and who won't, but it is up to me to discern the spirit behind anyone that claims to be a follower of Christ or who offers up insights into His ways. That's what I have done, and will continue to do throughout my Christian walk, working at my own salvation with all fear and trembling.
So, you can or cannot be near a stranger and feel their spirit, whether it is connecting to yours or it is really struggling to be around yours?
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ChristianTonyB
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Hello @ChristianTonyB
Welcome to CC!
It is only by the Holy Spirit that we know or recognize anything of God - including Jesus Christ our Savior, Lord and King.
The same Holy Spirit that gives and operates in us the gift of speaking in tongues, can also give us and operate in us the gift of interpretation of tongues....this is true.
At a home worship and prayer meeting, the worshipper began to sing in tongues, as he sang I could hear him in tongues with my physical ears, yet, in my head with my spiritual ears I could hear the worshippers voice in English which is my native language. I was absolutely AMAZED that I heard English in my head and what AMAZING words..... he spoke of how no one compares to the most high God, who can understand the depths of the fragrances of His Love, who can climb to the heights of His embrace........who can approach Him and not be overcome in the depths of His Holiness......
As a true believer, we need the empowering of the Holy Spirit. We need our "spiritual eyes" and "spiritual ears" opened. It's a game changer. We go from operating as a "natural man" to operating as a "spiritual man."
1 Corinthians 2:13-14
King James Version
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Thank you Lafftur.
It depends on what one regards as being spiritual. For me, it is how well the nature of the human being near me imitates the nature of Christ. Everything else is secondary. And to have the gift of articulating God's ways into a lifestyle scenario is a gift that Paul argued was a better one. Even so, he then goes on to say that all spiritual gifts are trumped by godly love.
Discernment, is not us judging, but the Spirit of God judging, and we are the ones understanding what the outcome of that judgement is!
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ChristianTonyB
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Some people have something akin to a sixth sense, be they Christian or not. Some people have the ability to discern the spirits behind a spoken word, or action. Some Christians have the bent of Prophetic Insight, and they, depending on their level of faith, are able to evaluate the integrity of those they encounter. I test and evaluate everything, and make decisions based on the nature of Christ, which is seen through His dealings with His disciples and others, and the words He spoke, and the promptings of the Holy Spirit that indwells me. People know me to be friendly and welcoming, fair and law abiding. If their spirit doesn't mesh with mine, I'm not offended. I'm responsible for my own behaviour, not others.
Well I am never troubled by meeting unbelievers even when they are as rude a red rock - and neither have I found that such rude men and occasionally a rude women are all unbelievers. But that does take a conversation of sorts unless the Lord expressly makes me aware of their condition as a rude believer. In which case I can decide what to do. But I have found many times a deep witness in my spirit when I have met a truly harmful man or woman who themselves are quickened by sensing my concern in the spirit and usually have to weigh if they are going to take a stand or not. They usually don't bother - but I may run after them and make an appeal.
Speaking from my own experience the most grave witness has often been grounded in a dire circumstance and almost always just comes into sight in the casual way of a shared need - be that a queue for gas (petrol) or for food. It has happened standing at a bus stop and then in that instant I knew that the person was a believer and yet my concern was because of some matter or other which the Lord wanted them to be aware of in their own life. Often I don't even know what the specifics are - it just goes the way of knowing the person is a fellow believer and so the Spirit speaks to them and I may not have a clue what is really being spoken - but I know it is the Lord speaking all the same. Those kind of things are very precious because we can also receive ourselves when we reflect on what has happened and acknowledge our own faults as well. Sound a bit ideal I know - but that is my own experience.
Other times there is no mistaking what the Lord is saying because the words just cannot be hidden. I may just get smacked in the mouth for being a finger of God. It's all in a way of service. To be clear with you - politeness and civility are truly not the best way to know who a believer is.
I agree with the first element of this post, brother. That so-called sixth sense does indeed exceed ordinary bounds of psychophysiology - and yes it most assuredly does become prophetic in character - yet it is not a prophet. So the question is really what function our spirits have (not the soul) that bear witness to Christ in others that amounts to spiritual discernment.
Hello @Atpilot
Words are powerful- they can contain life or death because death and life are in the power of the tongue.
Imagine…the same Spirit that raised Christ from the dead is speaking words that contain life out of the believer’s own mouth….WOW!
Where do words come from? …from our heart.
When a person is speaking in tongues, who’s words are they? Whose heart are they coming from? God’s? Yes, from God’s heart, He is speaking Life to His child.
Truly, the gift of tongues is a VERY precious gift from God!
…or even one voice could cause MUCH confusion…lol!
I’m thinking about nicknaming you “Shakespeare”….
I do hope you have a great sense of humor….
…or even one voice could cause MUCH confusion…lol!
I’m thinking about nicknaming you “Shakespeare”….
I do hope you have a great sense of humor….
I do have a great sense of humour sister. On that we can agree. The rest is graciously hidden is it not?
Perhaps it is to well hidden. Unlike Shakespeare who wrote plays and orations minded to stir the political and emotional theatre of life!
Well, it is good that it is hidden and not lost…for if it were lost one would not know where to find it….just don’t forget where it is hidden…
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
Actually the grammar is inaccurate. Here is what it should have been.
Στην αρχή ήταν ο Λόγος και ο Λόγος ήταν με τον Θεό και ο Λόγος ήταν Θεός.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=John 1:1&version=KJV
Actually the original is correct according to Koine Greek. My second one was modern Greek.
This is obviously in Koine Greek. Any normal believer would know that. I wonder if the fellow is thinking he can fool someone who doesn't know Greek to give a "Charismatic" interpretation to it? Just wonderin'...