Russia Preparing for War.

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randyk

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Yes, it appears that Russia may be the "Gog" of Ezekiel 38-39. And it does appear to be a warm-up towards a future invasion into Israel, being that Russia is friendly with both Iran and Syria. Russia wishes the Islamic world to accept its rule. And so, it is prepared to choose the Palestinians over the Jewish State.

But I have perhaps a different possible scenario for Russia in my eschatology, though it's open to change. I think Russia may be a future player in the European Union, when it stretches from East to West in the time of Antichrist. Russia has always been a part of European politics, and Europe is where I think the Antichrist will situate his rule over 10 major states and over 7 major rulers. I think this will likely include both Russia and the U.S. Biden and the Democrats have the U.S. moving closer to European leadership.
 

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Now we need to do something to allow him to "save face"
Simple. Ship Hunter Biden to stand trial in Ukraine. That will deflect attention from Putin and ensure that at least one criminal has been locked up. After that it will be Joe's turn.

'Joe Biden has acknowledged on camera that in spring 2016, when he was vice president and spearheading the Obama administration's Ukraine policy, he successfully pressured Ukraine to fire top prosecutor Viktor Shokin. At the time, Shokin was investigating the notoriously corrupt Burisma Holdings — where Hunter's role was especially lucrative. The vice president threatened to withhold $1 billion in critical U.S. aid if Shokin was not fired."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-bidens-controversies-explained
 
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Yes, it appears that Russia may be the "Gog" of Ezekiel 38-39. And it does appear to be a warm-up towards a future invasion into Israel, being that Russia is friendly with both Iran and Syria. Russia wishes the Islamic world to accept its rule. And so, it is prepared to choose the Palestinians over the Jewish State.

But I have perhaps a different possible scenario for Russia in my eschatology, though it's open to change. I think Russia may be a future player in the European Union, when it stretches from East to West in the time of Antichrist. Russia has always been a part of European politics, and Europe is where I think the Antichrist will situate his rule over 10 major states and over 7 major rulers. I think this will likely include both Russia and the U.S. Biden and the Democrats have the U.S. moving closer to European leadership.
Biden and the Dems are moving the U.S. closer to the brink....
 

randyk

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Biden and the Dems are moving the U.S. closer to the brink....
Yea, I have distant relatives in both Finland and the Ukraine. It's difficult to be an isolationist, but I think we do need to stay out of it. But Biden and the Dems indeed wish to distract the public from their abject failure in guiding either the US or Europe.
 

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We need not be the worlds policeman, we have to deal with the ccp and Dr. phony's weaponized virus attack.
 

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If you mean an actual bear I agree. But Putin has been baiting his neighbors for a long time. The Russian bear has been psychopathically bullying its neighbors ever since the fall of the Soviet Union. Putin grabbed Crimea and Don Bas while everyone was distracted with Sochi. Now he's grabbing Ukraine when everyone is distracted with Beijing.
you believe the media, ok but you might spend a little time listening to the other narrative. You might study some of Putin's speeches going back 30 years. Crimea voted overwhelmingly to be part of Russia ... they are Russian as are large parts of Eastern Ukraine.

Kiev has been at war with Eastern Ukraine since 2014, it just goes unreported.
 
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Can't stop what was written. Nation against nation meaning gentile against gentile.
 

randyk

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Can't stop what was written. Nation against nation meaning gentile against gentile.
Human free will is always a factor, though. What that means to me is that sin will always get the best of a nation in the end. There will always be capitulation in the populace to "getting our own way." And that's what causes wars. So we will always have wars.
 

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Human free will is always a factor, though. What that means to me is that sin will always get the best of a nation in the end. There will always be capitulation in the populace to "getting our own way." And that's what causes wars. So we will always have wars.
Until the Prince of Peace comes and redeems His Creation.
 

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Can't stop what was written. Nation against nation meaning gentile against gentile.
Specifically ethnos against ethnos; ethnic groups against ethnic groups. This broader understanding can include Jews against Arabs; racism is rampant within both groups.
 

randyk

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Specifically ethnos against ethnos; ethnic groups against ethnic groups. This broader understanding can include Jews against Arabs; racism is rampant within both groups.
Yes, and even family vs. family--2 vs 3 and 3 vs 2. Sin runs rampant if allowed to go unchallenged. Eventually that happens. But we're held responsible as individuals to *testify* to the truth. This doesn't require that people respond to it--only that we *say it!* That will hold all of mankind accountable.
 

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This doesn't require that people respond to it--only that we *say it!*
The Spirit of Christ in us makes it possible to become His representatives in the earth. There are many who say the right words but in the wrong spirit because they have the knowledge of the scriptures but lack the maturity and spirit to speak the words in love. Often, people reject the gospel because the preacher misrepresents Christ.
 

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Yes, and even family vs. family--2 vs 3 and 3 vs 2. Sin runs rampant if allowed to go unchallenged. Eventually that happens. But we're held responsible as individuals to *testify* to the truth. This doesn't require that people respond to it--only that we *say it!* That will hold all of mankind accountable.
What verse says we are responsible to testify to the truth? I can't comment on it without the context.

John 18:48
“Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

So in this context testifying to the truth would be telling people that Jesus is the truth and preaching about who He is etc.

We are responsible to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Many christians today have gotten caught up in current event arguments and are thinking that their calling has become to stand against things they don't like going on in the world.

That never has been our calling or our message. Out message is still the same. Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever. That is what we should be known for preaching after we are gone. Those who remember us should remember that was our only message. And it applies to every age no matter what is going on in the world.

Too many christians are getting caught up in conspiracy theories, and then turning them into twisted ideas about the strategies of satan that we are supposed to be fighting against and all their conversation is about earthly temporal things like masks, and mandates, and vaccines, and not about the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

It is a disturbing trend. While they are "standing up" and fighting against something they don't agree with that they have personified as evil that they are supposed to resist, they are all the while falling for the trap that satan has laid for them, and they are speaking with anger, bitterness, venting and fomenting hate, calling politicians they don't agree with by disparaging names and making a fool of themselves and discrediting their witness of the character a Christian should possess.

Then later when they try to share the gospel with someone that knows them, that person they are speaking to is not believing that they have actually experienced this freedom from anger that they say Jesus can give, since they have witnessed so much of it in that persons life over current events in the news.
 

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you believe the media, ok but you might spend a little time listening to the other narrative. You might study some of Putin's speeches going back 30 years. Crimea voted overwhelmingly to be part of Russia ... they are Russian as are large parts of Eastern Ukraine.

Kiev has been at war with Eastern Ukraine since 2014, it just goes unreported.

This week I began to pray for Russian & Ukrainian Christians.
Putin supposedly wants a guarantee that Ukraine will not join Nato. Why not give it to him?
We have nothing to gain from escalation & conflict.

The Anti-Russian media frenzy has been growing tiresome for some years.
Many Western Christians have latched onto the Scofield-inspired teaching that Russia is the big baddie.
While Magog, in the centrally-located crossroads of 3 continents, is a NATO member & has it's second largest standing army.
We are currently Magog's ally! We have no room to lecture the Ruskies.
 

randyk

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The Spirit of Christ in us makes it possible to become His representatives in the earth. There are many who say the right words but in the wrong spirit because they have the knowledge of the scriptures but lack the maturity and spirit to speak the words in love. Often, people reject the gospel because the preacher misrepresents Christ.
True that is. In the case of the Ukraine issue, I think it well that Europe and the US speak against Russia invading the Ukraine. But again, it's best not to act with any threats. I understand Biden now is personally threatening Putin with sanctions against him? I think this is unwise. Biden tends to take things personally, including the questions Fox reporters ask him? Not a good show for a President!
 

randyk

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This week I began to pray for Russian & Ukrainian Christians.
Putin supposedly wants a guarantee that Ukraine will not join Nato. Why not give it to him?
We have nothing to gain from escalation & conflict.


The Anti-Russian media frenzy has been growing tiresome for some years.
Many Western Christians have latched onto the Scofield-inspired teaching that Russia is the big baddie.
While Magog, in the centrally-located crossroads of 3 continents, is a NATO member & has it's second largest standing army.
We are currently Magog's ally! We have no room to lecture the Ruskies.
I don't know whether Islamic countries are "Magog" or not? However, you make a good point. We don't always pick good actors to partner with. NATO is a threat to an expansionist Russia. I'm not sure it is a real threat to Russia itself. If Germany can have an economic partnership with Russia, that tends to neutralize the danger NATO poses to Russia.
 
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Russia and America is actually working together and controlled conflict brings about controlled change.

It is a scare tactic to scare the world in to cooperating more with each other.

Like after WW1 they set up League of Nations, and after WW2 they set up United Nations.

Russia and America is a Hegel System plan as well as Republican and Democrat.

They set up 2 opposing forces with them believing both sides are truth which people will choose a side and then they harmonize them together and brings the people together.

They also use it to cause division until the time of harmonizing which then they have an excuse to change and have more control because of the fighting among people.

Like in America where they use Left and Right, and Black and White to cause division which they want them to fight and get out of control so America can harmonize and go to a new form of government which they will appear justified because of the fighting which the government will be a balance between Democracy and Socialism which they believe will be a better system than either alone.

But it was all planned out to do this which is the Hegel System.

America is setting themselves up to go to a new form of government that will be how the one world government will operate which will be a balance between Democracy and Socialism.

Like America and Russia have been working together the whole time which they present both sides of government democracy and socialism.

Also they need to have a balance between atheist and religious, a belief in a higher power.

America- religious, spiritual, a belief in a higher power.

Russia- atheist.

New Age movement- atheist but spiritual which they believe they are still evolving to be spiritual.

America started allowing things of Russia like taking prayer out of school, and Russia started allowing things of America as they want to portray both sides which the one world government will be a harmonizing of both governmental and religious beliefs.

Russia and America are working together and it is all a scare tactic with Russia wanting to fight because they want to scare the world because controlled conflict brings about controlled change and people do not want Russia and America to fight which could possibly draw a bigger group against another.

North Korea and America are probably working together as a scare tactic as well as any conflicts that could go on like China and Taiwan which China is probably also working together with Russia and America but they do not want people to know that.

United Nations Agenda 21 which is also Agenda 2030 is a sustainability act which 179 nations agreed to it in 1992 but it's policies were as far back as the 1970's.

Which let's people know that the nations are cooperating more than people realize and many want a one world government but they have to deal with the people to put them on an equal level and to get them to cooperate and a scare tactic is one good way, which another good way is like the stimulus checks which is probably a pattern for basic income for the world.

They let BLM do what they did and get violent at times because they push socialism and are anti- capitalist which they state on their web site which they say there is no future in Capitalism and they wanted to get that socialist agenda out there.

They also are working on trying to put everyone equal which means they have to knock down the white people even lying about them and boost the African Americans, minorities.

They have to knock down the men and boost the women.

They have to knock down the parents and boost the children which they loved the counter culture movement.

They have to knock down the religious and boost the atheist which they loved taking prayer out of school.

They have to knock down the heterosexuals and boost the homosexuals.

Also they lie about the white people that they are all racist and have white privilege and African Americans are oppressed because they want that conflict between them.

They want conflict between Right and Left, and Black and White which is divide and conquer and control is the payoff.

It is one world government time so they are taking the steps to have controlled conflict brings about controlled change, division among people so they can take control and be more strict, to harmonize Right and Left to have a government that will operate like the one world government to come, and to put everyone as equal.
 

Marilyn

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What verse says we are responsible to testify to the truth? I can't comment on it without the context.

John 18:48
“Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

So in this context testifying to the truth would be telling people that Jesus is the truth and preaching about who He is etc.

We are responsible to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Many christians today have gotten caught up in current event arguments and are thinking that their calling has become to stand against things they don't like going on in the world.

That never has been our calling or our message. Out message is still the same. Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever. That is what we should be known for preaching after we are gone. Those who remember us should remember that was our only message. And it applies to every age no matter what is going on in the world.

Too many christians are getting caught up in conspiracy theories, and then turning them into twisted ideas about the strategies of satan that we are supposed to be fighting against and all their conversation is about earthly temporal things like masks, and mandates, and vaccines, and not about the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

It is a disturbing trend. While they are "standing up" and fighting against something they don't agree with that they have personified as evil that they are supposed to resist, they are all the while falling for the trap that satan has laid for them, and they are speaking with anger, bitterness, venting and fomenting hate, calling politicians they don't agree with by disparaging names and making a fool of themselves and discrediting their witness of the character a Christian should possess.

Then later when they try to share the gospel with someone that knows them, that person they are speaking to is not believing that they have actually experienced this freedom from anger that they say Jesus can give, since they have witnessed so much of it in that persons life over current events in the news.
I agree with much of what you say - getting too involved with earthly matters.

Then of course we need to be watching `as you see the Day approaching.` (Heb. 10: 25) and to be exhorting, (encouraging and warning) one another & so much the more as you see.....

Over here we are aware of what is happening on the world scene and thus preparing ourselves, our expectant hearts, our telling family and friends of what is coming and to have their hearts open to the Lord. `Meetings` are in the park so that other walking by can listen, gatherings for worship and ministry for healing and deliverance, etc quite an escalation of things happening for people are sensing that things aren`t right in the world.