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They aren't letting me post a new thread. So I'll post here if I can. Summary:
HEK293 is the basis of Pfizer's COVID vaxxine. HEK means Human Embryonic Kidney and the kidneys are cut out of infants while their hearts still beat for max freshness. 293 is the # of attempts before the cell line was successfully established. Not a 1:1 ratio of attempts to subjects but likely hundreds of infants died in order to establish the cell line HEK293. Pfizer whistleblower suspects that elements of the cell line are actually IN the vaxxine because of how paranoid they are about suppressing all ties to HEK293
Sources:
https://www.crisismagazine.com/2021/catholic-conscience-and-the-covid-19-vaccine
https://www.centerformedicalprogres...ing-while-harvesting-aborted-infants-kidneys/
https://www.projectveritas.com/news...on-record-reveals-internal-emails-from-chief/
HEK293 is the basis of Pfizer's COVID vaxxine. HEK means Human Embryonic Kidney and the kidneys are cut out of infants while their hearts still beat for max freshness. 293 is the # of attempts before the cell line was successfully established. Not a 1:1 ratio of attempts to subjects but likely hundreds of infants died in order to establish the cell line HEK293. Pfizer whistleblower suspects that elements of the cell line are actually IN the vaxxine because of how paranoid they are about suppressing all ties to HEK293
Sources:
https://www.crisismagazine.com/2021/catholic-conscience-and-the-covid-19-vaccine
https://www.centerformedicalprogres...ing-while-harvesting-aborted-infants-kidneys/
https://www.projectveritas.com/news...on-record-reveals-internal-emails-from-chief/
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never really bothered much with Focus on the Family, but the man who started it, is no longer the CEL. here's an interesting article about him having left
Why Did James Dobson Really Leave Focus on the Family?
BY MICHAEL DE YOANNAMarch 12, 2010
Earlier this month, James Dobson, the man who founded the conservative Focus on the Family ministry in Colorado Springs, left his most coveted pulpit—Focus’ radio show—to start an independent radio program with his son, Ryan. Now Ken Hutcherson, who leads Antioch Bible church in Washington and is a loyal friend of Dobson’s, wonders in a WorldNetDaily column whether Dobson was ousted by Focus’ board of directors as the organization attempts to forge a less divisive path (such as the Tim Tebow Super Bowl commercial, which was so soft on the anti-abortion theme that many viewers seemed to have missed the point). “Taking him off the air effective this month was not Dr. Dobson’s decision but a board decision,” Hutcherson writes. “Why was that decision made? What prayerful consideration did the board engage in that ended with their choice to remove Dr. Dobson from the air?
Evidently, he didn’t want to stop his voice from being heard over the airways after turning over leadership to the new team. The new radio program he is launching tells me that.” Talking Points Memo received a statement from Focus about Hutcherson’s column: “We admire Reverend Hutcherson and the good work he has done for the cause of Christ and in support of families. He is, of course, entitled to his own opinion about the work we do, whether we agree with that opinion or not.” Jim Daly, a longtime Focus leader, who has replaced Dobson at the helm of the ministry, is clearly doing things differently than the highly political Dobson, known for his conservative crusades. For instance, Daly has praised President Barack Obama for his devotion to family and last summer attended a White House event. Hutcherson says of Obama: “The man believes in partial birth abortion. [Attending a White House event is] something that never would have happened if Dr. Dobson were there.”
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Why Did James Dobson Really Leave Focus on the Family?
BY MICHAEL DE YOANNAMarch 12, 2010
Earlier this month, James Dobson, the man who founded the conservative Focus on the Family ministry in Colorado Springs, left his most coveted pulpit—Focus’ radio show—to start an independent radio program with his son, Ryan. Now Ken Hutcherson, who leads Antioch Bible church in Washington and is a loyal friend of Dobson’s, wonders in a WorldNetDaily column whether Dobson was ousted by Focus’ board of directors as the organization attempts to forge a less divisive path (such as the Tim Tebow Super Bowl commercial, which was so soft on the anti-abortion theme that many viewers seemed to have missed the point). “Taking him off the air effective this month was not Dr. Dobson’s decision but a board decision,” Hutcherson writes. “Why was that decision made? What prayerful consideration did the board engage in that ended with their choice to remove Dr. Dobson from the air?
Evidently, he didn’t want to stop his voice from being heard over the airways after turning over leadership to the new team. The new radio program he is launching tells me that.” Talking Points Memo received a statement from Focus about Hutcherson’s column: “We admire Reverend Hutcherson and the good work he has done for the cause of Christ and in support of families. He is, of course, entitled to his own opinion about the work we do, whether we agree with that opinion or not.” Jim Daly, a longtime Focus leader, who has replaced Dobson at the helm of the ministry, is clearly doing things differently than the highly political Dobson, known for his conservative crusades. For instance, Daly has praised President Barack Obama for his devotion to family and last summer attended a White House event. Hutcherson says of Obama: “The man believes in partial birth abortion. [Attending a White House event is] something that never would have happened if Dr. Dobson were there.”
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Theres no HEKcells used in the manufacturing of Pfizer's vaccines.
Nor Moderna's either.
I think that the cells were used initially for laboratory testing before they got to stage 2 trials. But that would be all... every medicine is tested in stage one trials in such a fashion.
That goes for types of insulin and metformin to antibiotics.
Now AstraZeneca/Oxford? Absolutely there is. They were advised against doing so as it was known to have side effects. From blood clots to odd neurological effects.
Get the facts straight before spouting nonsense.
Nor Moderna's either.
I think that the cells were used initially for laboratory testing before they got to stage 2 trials. But that would be all... every medicine is tested in stage one trials in such a fashion.
That goes for types of insulin and metformin to antibiotics.
Now AstraZeneca/Oxford? Absolutely there is. They were advised against doing so as it was known to have side effects. From blood clots to odd neurological effects.
Get the facts straight before spouting nonsense.
never really bothered much with Focus on the Family, but the man who started it, is no longer the CEL. here's an interesting article about him having left
Why Did James Dobson Really Leave Focus on the Family?
BY MICHAEL DE YOANNAMarch 12, 2010
Earlier this month, James Dobson, the man who founded the conservative Focus on the Family ministry in Colorado Springs, left his most coveted pulpit—Focus’ radio show—to start an independent radio program with his son, Ryan. Now Ken Hutcherson, who leads Antioch Bible church in Washington and is a loyal friend of Dobson’s, wonders in a WorldNetDaily column whether Dobson was ousted by Focus’ board of directors as the organization attempts to forge a less divisive path (such as the Tim Tebow Super Bowl commercial, which was so soft on the anti-abortion theme that many viewers seemed to have missed the point). “Taking him off the air effective this month was not Dr. Dobson’s decision but a board decision,” Hutcherson writes. “Why was that decision made? What prayerful consideration did the board engage in that ended with their choice to remove Dr. Dobson from the air?
Evidently, he didn’t want to stop his voice from being heard over the airways after turning over leadership to the new team. The new radio program he is launching tells me that.” Talking Points Memo received a statement from Focus about Hutcherson’s column: “We admire Reverend Hutcherson and the good work he has done for the cause of Christ and in support of families. He is, of course, entitled to his own opinion about the work we do, whether we agree with that opinion or not.” Jim Daly, a longtime Focus leader, who has replaced Dobson at the helm of the ministry, is clearly doing things differently than the highly political Dobson, known for his conservative crusades. For instance, Daly has praised President Barack Obama for his devotion to family and last summer attended a White House event. Hutcherson says of Obama: “The man believes in partial birth abortion. [Attending a White House event is] something that never would have happened if Dr. Dobson were there.”
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Why Did James Dobson Really Leave Focus on the Family?
BY MICHAEL DE YOANNAMarch 12, 2010
Earlier this month, James Dobson, the man who founded the conservative Focus on the Family ministry in Colorado Springs, left his most coveted pulpit—Focus’ radio show—to start an independent radio program with his son, Ryan. Now Ken Hutcherson, who leads Antioch Bible church in Washington and is a loyal friend of Dobson’s, wonders in a WorldNetDaily column whether Dobson was ousted by Focus’ board of directors as the organization attempts to forge a less divisive path (such as the Tim Tebow Super Bowl commercial, which was so soft on the anti-abortion theme that many viewers seemed to have missed the point). “Taking him off the air effective this month was not Dr. Dobson’s decision but a board decision,” Hutcherson writes. “Why was that decision made? What prayerful consideration did the board engage in that ended with their choice to remove Dr. Dobson from the air?
Evidently, he didn’t want to stop his voice from being heard over the airways after turning over leadership to the new team. The new radio program he is launching tells me that.” Talking Points Memo received a statement from Focus about Hutcherson’s column: “We admire Reverend Hutcherson and the good work he has done for the cause of Christ and in support of families. He is, of course, entitled to his own opinion about the work we do, whether we agree with that opinion or not.” Jim Daly, a longtime Focus leader, who has replaced Dobson at the helm of the ministry, is clearly doing things differently than the highly political Dobson, known for his conservative crusades. For instance, Daly has praised President Barack Obama for his devotion to family and last summer attended a White House event. Hutcherson says of Obama: “The man believes in partial birth abortion. [Attending a White House event is] something that never would have happened if Dr. Dobson were there.”
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How do you know this WITHOUT THE SHADOW OF A DOUBT? The vaccine manufacturers have been lying from the very beginning, but there is sufficient information about these cells being necessary for the vaccines to be manufactured.
'It is claimed that the abortion-derived cell lines were only used in testing, but it still means that these so-called vaccines depend on the involvement of abortion. Current information is that the cell line used in testing came from one abortion, which took place decades ago.
However, as this extract reveals…
https://principia-scientific.com/exposing-the-vaccine-practice-known-as-hek-293/
'It is claimed that the abortion-derived cell lines were only used in testing, but it still means that these so-called vaccines depend on the involvement of abortion. Current information is that the cell line used in testing came from one abortion, which took place decades ago.
However, as this extract reveals…
Extract:
‘ The most prominent cell line, called HEK 293, comes from an abortion performed in the 1970’s. It’s labelled 293 because that’s how many experimental attempts the researchers needed to get a working cell line. Therefore, though the abortion-to-experiment ratio is not precisely one-to-one, hundreds of abortions went into the project, even if they didn’t result in the working line.
HEK stands for human embryonic kidney. To harvest a viable embryonic kidney for this purpose, sufficiently healthy children old enough to have adequately-developed kidneys must be removed from the womb, alive, typically by caesarean section, and have their kidneys cut out. This must take place without anaesthesia for the child, which would lessen the viability of the organs.'‘ The most prominent cell line, called HEK 293, comes from an abortion performed in the 1970’s. It’s labelled 293 because that’s how many experimental attempts the researchers needed to get a working cell line. Therefore, though the abortion-to-experiment ratio is not precisely one-to-one, hundreds of abortions went into the project, even if they didn’t result in the working line.
https://principia-scientific.com/exposing-the-vaccine-practice-known-as-hek-293/
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There's more than one method for creating vaccines.
HEK cell lines are used for testing all drugs used potentially for human consumption.
It's a SOP for phase one testing in all drug trials. This goes for ALL cancer drugs, High Blood pressure medication, organ anti rejection meds, and etc. All drugs are tested on HEK cell lines to make sure they won't kill people first.
Phase 2 trials are injections/dosing people. It takes a lot of testing before you get to that stage.
There is a method of manufacturing vaccine using these cell cultures to create antibodies from attenuated viruses. The cells are then destroyed as the batch "ferments" and are processed to extract the vaccine. (Which is how the AstraZeneca Oxford's vaccine is made....same as Sinopharm and J&J and Sputnik V. ).
But mRNA vaccines are made of solely the spike proteins of the virus and lipids. Lipids are essentially a type of fat taken from humans that is removed from people having liposuction procedures or other procedures. Babies don't have liposuction procedures.
So... nope. I'm sure this is what is done.
This was discussed long ago when the vaccines first came out adnaseum
The pope even chimed in. Where were you then?
HEK cell lines are used for testing all drugs used potentially for human consumption.
It's a SOP for phase one testing in all drug trials. This goes for ALL cancer drugs, High Blood pressure medication, organ anti rejection meds, and etc. All drugs are tested on HEK cell lines to make sure they won't kill people first.
Phase 2 trials are injections/dosing people. It takes a lot of testing before you get to that stage.
There is a method of manufacturing vaccine using these cell cultures to create antibodies from attenuated viruses. The cells are then destroyed as the batch "ferments" and are processed to extract the vaccine. (Which is how the AstraZeneca Oxford's vaccine is made....same as Sinopharm and J&J and Sputnik V. ).
But mRNA vaccines are made of solely the spike proteins of the virus and lipids. Lipids are essentially a type of fat taken from humans that is removed from people having liposuction procedures or other procedures. Babies don't have liposuction procedures.
So... nope. I'm sure this is what is done.
This was discussed long ago when the vaccines first came out adnaseum
The pope even chimed in. Where were you then?
Yes there are. There are murdered baby cells in the so called vaccines.
I say so called because a whistle blower has just come out with more info into these so-called vaccine. Not only do they put murdered baby cells in them but it’s not a vaccine.
The first shot kills off 50% of the person’s white blood cells. And we know what those are for, our bodies defense against diseases.
The next shot taken eight weeks later kills off more white blood cells and introduces foreign diseases AND foreign RNA, (taken from the murdered babies and someone else although they haven’t said who). The booster shot gives that person seven strands of hiv.
The whistle blower said all of this for two reasons population control ( because some people won’t survive these injection) and the others who do survive will now be dependent on the government for the rest of theit lives for shots to keep them alive.
Now this is that so called vaccine.
From the beginning The Lord told me and ones I know NOT to get that ”vaccine,” and now we know why.
We told people don’t get it, just repent as commanded in 2 Chronicles 7:13-14 then they would be okay. And this is still true.
If someone has gotten these shots turn to Adonai Yehoshua HaMeshiach (The Lord Jesus Chris’s original Hebrew Name), right now. No matter what thoughts might come through call upon Him like never before. Call out to Him until you hear Him for sure and repent.
If you haven’t been saved The Bible says,
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Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38
Some of you might say, I took the Roman road, or I did what was written in Ephesians. And I’m here to tell you that’s impossible because any book or letter or epistle written after the book of Acts was letters/epistles/ books written to those already saved.
They were NOT written to the unsaved in these cities but those who had already come to know Adonai Yehoshua HaMeshiach and been born again.
Someone un reading anything after the book of Acts will misun what’s written there because it wasn’t written to them.
An unsaved person can read The four gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) and Acts and get what they need from them which is how to become a Christian.
If they read any letter, book, or epistle after these they will misunderstand what’s written there.
Come to know Adonai Yehoshua HaMeshiach for yourself in the pardoning of your sins. Come be born again of water and Spirit as Adonai Yehoshua HaMeshiach commandEd in John of 3:3-7.
I say so called because a whistle blower has just come out with more info into these so-called vaccine. Not only do they put murdered baby cells in them but it’s not a vaccine.
The first shot kills off 50% of the person’s white blood cells. And we know what those are for, our bodies defense against diseases.
The next shot taken eight weeks later kills off more white blood cells and introduces foreign diseases AND foreign RNA, (taken from the murdered babies and someone else although they haven’t said who). The booster shot gives that person seven strands of hiv.
The whistle blower said all of this for two reasons population control ( because some people won’t survive these injection) and the others who do survive will now be dependent on the government for the rest of theit lives for shots to keep them alive.
Now this is that so called vaccine.
From the beginning The Lord told me and ones I know NOT to get that ”vaccine,” and now we know why.
We told people don’t get it, just repent as commanded in 2 Chronicles 7:13-14 then they would be okay. And this is still true.
If someone has gotten these shots turn to Adonai Yehoshua HaMeshiach (The Lord Jesus Chris’s original Hebrew Name), right now. No matter what thoughts might come through call upon Him like never before. Call out to Him until you hear Him for sure and repent.
If you haven’t been saved The Bible says,
”
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38
Some of you might say, I took the Roman road, or I did what was written in Ephesians. And I’m here to tell you that’s impossible because any book or letter or epistle written after the book of Acts was letters/epistles/ books written to those already saved.
They were NOT written to the unsaved in these cities but those who had already come to know Adonai Yehoshua HaMeshiach and been born again.
Someone un reading anything after the book of Acts will misun what’s written there because it wasn’t written to them.
An unsaved person can read The four gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) and Acts and get what they need from them which is how to become a Christian.
If they read any letter, book, or epistle after these they will misunderstand what’s written there.
Come to know Adonai Yehoshua HaMeshiach for yourself in the pardoning of your sins. Come be born again of water and Spirit as Adonai Yehoshua HaMeshiach commandEd in John of 3:3-7.