How The Devil/Satan Deceiveth The Whole World

BroTan · Jan 18, 2022

Brothers and sisters, there is violence, and wars, famine and earthquakes all over the planet today, and most people don't consider whats going on. They hear that we are in the "last days", but most do not consider or no that all this was foretold by the prophets and our Lord and savior Jesus christ. Lets go into Matthew 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Before we get into how satan deceive the world lets take a look and see how bold the Devil is and what he controls , since the days of Jesus. Lets go into Luke 4: 3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread. 4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. 5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.

8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

So we see that satan uses his power with the kingdom of the earth. Now think about what we just read, the Devil says, "all the Kingdom are his", and that he is worshiped by those to whom he gives power to. Now, if he asked the Lord to worship him, while he was in the flesh; what about the rest of us? Let's go into Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Think about it, how does he deceive the whole world? Which means me, you and everyone else has been deceive at some point for the scriptures did not say he deceive some of the world, or part of the world, but the whole world. Let's take a look and see how Satan used his power with these kingdoms. Let's go into Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. This places are the church, brothers and sisters. Let's go into Luke 22:52 Then Jesus said unto the chief priests, and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves? 53 When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

Did you notice it was the church people who came to arrest Jesus? They did the bidding for there "father" the Devil. I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it (John 8:37-44)

See, spiritual wickness is in the pulpits of the church, which is the highest place on the earth. The church is the true government that governs the earth. The men in the postitons of feeding the flock teaches the lies of the Devil, they deceive the people into worshiping another Jesus. Paul said in 2Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. Later, brothers and sisters we will see how satan deceiveth the whole world today with the church.

2ndTimothyGroup · Jan 18, 2022

I'd like to think that I'm a decent student of the Bible. However, maybe I'm not? As I have scoured the Bible (several times), I have searched for explanations for the Mysterious Plan of God. What I've found is that when Adam and Eve sinned, God Himself handed humanity over to the Devil, less those whom were separated from that evil relationship. God placed upon all people (with the exception of a few who belonged to the Remnant) the Curse of Sin and Death. The hidden Plan of God is to Redeem humanity from this Law of Sin and Death, with a primary but hidden focus on Spiritual Death. This is the Purpose of Christ; to Redeem His Holy Elect from the Curse of the Lord.

Galatians 3:13 NLT - "But Christ has rescued us from the curse pronounced by the law. When he was hung on the cross, he took upon himself the curse for our wrongdoing. For it is written in the Scriptures, "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

The law taught us what sin was all about, or, at the best translation for Gal 3:13 states, the Curse was pronounced (or made known) by the Law. For example, murder. The Law taught us that murder was wrong. Paul taught the following:

Romans 7:7, 9 NLT - 7 "Well then, am I suggesting that the law of God is sinful? Of course not! In fact, it was the law that showed me my sin. I would never have known that coveting is wrong if the law had not said, "You must not covet." ... 9 "At one time I lived without understanding the law. But when I learned the command not to covet, for instance, the power of sin came to life,"

And, Romans chapter 5 deals specifically with this Curse that points all the way back to Adam and Eve. There is no other chapter like Romans 5 as it discusses ever so clearly his remarkable Curse.

So, if I'm wrong about this . . . man, I need to know!

BroTan · Jan 19, 2022

2ndTimothyGroup said:

Well this is a topic one learn in steps, but let's take a look at that (Gal. 3:1, 13, 16-17, 19, 24) (v.1) O FOOLISH Ga-la’-tians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? (v.13) Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, CURSED IS EVERYONE THAT HANGETH ON A TREE: What law is this talking about? Let the bible speak for itself.

(v.16) Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, and to seeds, as of many; but as of One, AND TO THY SEED, which is Christ. (v.17) And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

Now pay attention, the law that is being spoken of here came four hundred and thirty years after this covenant. But God’s holy commandments have been around forever even before man was created. Remember that Satan was kicked out of heaven because iniquity (sin) was found in him. And what is sin? The transgression of the law (commandments). Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Now we have just read the biblical definition of sin, the transgression (breaking) of the law (commandments.) It doesn’t matter what you or I think sin is, it’s what God says sin is that counts. (1John 3:4)

(v.19) Wherefore then serveth the law? A question is being asked here. Then why should we serve this law? It was added because of transgression, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; the law that we are talking about here was added because of sin. But we now know that sin is the transgression of the law.

How do you add a law if sin is the transgression of the law? Because there are two sets of laws, you have God’s holy commandments which abided forever, and you had the animal sacrificial law which was added because of sin, but it was only good until the seed should come to whom the promise was made, and that seed was Jesus.

(v.24) Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. This animal sacrificial law was only a schoolmaster.

And this schoolmaster taught you that when you sinned in ignorance blood had to be shed (an animal sacrificed). But Christ being the ultimate sacrifice shed his precious blood once and for all, and by doing this putting an end to the animal sacrificial law. Paul says in Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. So when you quoted all the places in the Bible that do away with this animal sacrificial law, not understanding that Paul talks about two sets of law. The Royal law (Ten Commandments) and the animal sacrificial law sometimes in the same verse you could bring destruction to yourselves.

BroTan · Jan 19, 2022

Now let us take a look and see what Satan/Devil/serpent/Dragon really looks like.

"And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire enfolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire. Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man. And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.

And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass. And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings.

Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward." (Ezekiel 1:4-9)

These creators have four faces, four wings, feet like a calf, hands like men under their wings and they also look like burnt brass. What does burnt brass look like? What does anything look like burnt. It looks black. Why does it say they turned not when they went? It was no need for them to turn, remember they have four faces. They can look to the north, south, east and west at the same time. That is why they went forward without turning. Let's find out what they are called.

This is the living creature that I saw under the God of Israel by the river of Chebar; and I knew that they were the cherubim’s. Every one had four faces apiece, and every one four wings; and the likeness of the hands of a man was under their wings. (Ezekiel 10:20-21)

In the first chapter of Ezekiel we saw the Cherubim’s carrying Jesus around on His throne. Not a space ship as the status quo thinks. These were simply cherubim angels flying the Lord around. Is Satan a cherub angel? Well, let's find out.

The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God: Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee: With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures: (Ezekiel 28:1-3)

This is not an ordinary man, notice the clue. Thou are wiser than Daniel? The prince of Tyrus is a Gentile, how can he be wiser than Daniel when it comes to the word of God. Israel possesses the oracles/word of God. Remember that Satan is the god of the Gentiles that have not came under the commonwealth of Israel. This man is Satan; Satan is wiser than Daniel take a look.

Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.( Ezekiel 28: 12-13)

Do you recall the king of Tyrus in the Garden of Eden? I do recall the serpent which is called the devil and also Satan. Let's see who this really is.

Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. (Ezekiel 28:14-15)

Now we see this is not a man, but a cherub angel. In some cases the Lord calls angels men. But notice something; this cherub which is Satan had some authority. He actually was on the mountain of God, until he sinned. We should pay close attention to that. What happened when Satan sinned against God?

Take a look.

By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty; thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground; I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. (Ezekiel 28:16)

What happened when he got full of himself? He was thrown out. When the Lord blesses us with knowledge, wisdom and also understanding be careful not to get full of yourself and forget whose blessings it is and were it came from. It is the Lord's, not our own.

2ndTimothyGroup · Jan 19, 2022

BroTan said:

Well this is a topic one learn in steps, but let's take a look at that (Gal. 3:1, 13, 16-17, 19, 24) (v.1) O FOOLISH Ga-la’-tians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? (v.13) Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, CURSED IS EVERYONE THAT HANGETH ON A TREE: What law is this talking about? Let the bible speak for itself.

(v.16) Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, and to seeds, as of many; but as of One, AND TO THY SEED, which is Christ. (v.17) And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

Now pay attention, the law that is being spoken of here came four hundred and thirty years after this covenant. But God’s holy commandments have been around forever even before man was created. Remember that Satan was kicked out of heaven because iniquity (sin) was found in him. And what is sin? The transgression of the law (commandments). Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Now we have just read the biblical definition of sin, the transgression (breaking) of the law (commandments.) It doesn’t matter what you or I think sin is, it’s what God says sin is that counts. (1John 3:4)

(v.19) Wherefore then serveth the law? A question is being asked here. Then why should we serve this law? It was added because of transgression, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; the law that we are talking about here was added because of sin. But we now know that sin is the transgression of the law.

How do you add a law if sin is the transgression of the law? Because there are two sets of laws, you have God’s holy commandments which abided forever, and you had the animal sacrificial law which was added because of sin, but it was only good until the seed should come to whom the promise was made, and that seed was Jesus.

(v.24) Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. This animal sacrificial law was only a schoolmaster.

And this schoolmaster taught you that when you sinned in ignorance blood had to be shed (an animal sacrificed). But Christ being the ultimate sacrifice shed his precious blood once and for all, and by doing this putting an end to the animal sacrificial law. Paul says in Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. So when you quoted all the places in the Bible that do away with this animal sacrificial law, not understanding that Paul talks about two sets of law. The Royal law (Ten Commandments) and the animal sacrificial law sometimes in the same verse you could bring destruction to yourselves.

The Law isn't a Curse. The Laws of Moses expose the Curse of the Lord. That translation you use has butchered the Holy and Good Laws of Moses. Thou Shalt not Murder is not a Curse. Love they neighbor is not a Curse.

Anyway, I was hoping to clarify how Satan deceived the whole world, but I don't see that you even mention the name. I dunno . . . maybe you did and I'm just tired. It's as if I didn't write anything that I [did] write in my first post.

2ndTimothyGroup · Jan 19, 2022

1 Timothy 2:14 NLT - "And it was not Adam who was deceived by Satan. The woman was deceived, and sin was the result."

The whole world wasn't deceived. Just Adam and Eve. The rest were Blinded by the Curse of the Sinful Nature. The Sinful Nature is the Veil of Moses. When the Veil is lifted, a person is no longer deceived. And there is only one that can lift the Veil, and it is called the Circumcision of Christ.

studentoftheword · Jan 20, 2022

Satan deceived Eve with a question -----He made her doubt God;s word --and that is what he does still today -----

-He said to Eve ---Surely you won't die ?-----and that was enough to make Eve think that God was holding something back from them and with thar statement he put DOUBT and distrust in God in her mind and she took the Bait ---hook --line and sinker ------and then went to her mate and he also doubted what God has said -----as she has already had taken the fruit and nothing happened to her she was alive and offering the fruit to him -----
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But here is the clincher Folks ------Adan was the first created and was the one God put in charge of the Garden ---and Adam was God's first choice to reign over what He created ----Eve was created from Adam as a helper -----

So if Adam had refused the Fruit ---all would have bee well -------but he chose to follow his wife's offer and so Sin entered through Adam -----Eve was deceived ---Adam just listened to his mate -------

Romans 5:12 AMP
12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, so death spread to all people [no one being able to stop it or escape its power], because they all sinned.

You see Folks ---It is the male sperm that is the corrupt seed -----that is why Jesus had to have the Holy Spirit seed go into the egg of the woman ------so the seed of the Holy Spirit was not tainted or corrupt --it was Holy ----spotless and blameless ------

All Satan can do today is plant a seed of doubt and unbelief in us -----and he is doing a great job with many today ------sorry to say -----

2ndTimothyGroup · Jan 20, 2022

studentoftheword said:

Satan deceived Eve with a question -----He made her doubt God;s word --and that is what he does still today -----

-He said to Eve ---Surely you won't die ?-----and that was enough to make Eve think that God was holding something back from them and with thar statement he put DOUBT and distrust in God in her mind and she took the Bait ---hook --line and sinker ------and then went to her mate and he also doubted what God has said -----as she has already had taken the fruit and nothing happened to her she was alive and offering the fruit to him -----
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But here is the clincher Folks ------Adan was the first created and was the one God put in charge of the Garden ---and Adam was God's first choice to reign over what He created ----Eve was created from Adam as a helper -----

So if Adam had refused the Fruit ---all would have bee well -------but he chose to follow his wife's offer and so Sin entered through Adam -----Eve was deceived ---Adam just listened to his mate -------

Romans 5:12 AMP
12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, so death spread to all people [no one being able to stop it or escape its power], because they all sinned.

You see Folks ---It is the male sperm that is the corrupt seed -----that is why Jesus had to have the Holy Spirit seed go into the egg of the woman ------so the seed of the Holy Spirit was not tainted or corrupt --it was Holy ----spotless and blameless ------

All Satan can do today is plant a seed of doubt and unbelief in us -----and he is doing a great job with many today ------sorry to say -----

Is there an actual passage that indicates that the devil implants seeds of doubt? I can't think of any. What I do recall, though is that God hands people over to Satan and we become, therefore, his son. As I understand scripture, Satan is our father or, God becomes our Father after the circumcision of christ.

studentoftheword · Jan 20, 2022

2ndTimothyGroup said:

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Do you think God told them not to eat the fruit and then tried to trick Eve to eat it by posing a Question ---Are you really that ignorant of the Scripture ------Satan is our adversary not our friend ------God put Satan here to Give us Choice -----to listen to him or God ---without Satan there would be no need for free will -----as there would only be God and no one to challenge His Word -----Satan has God's permission to plant seeds of doubt and unbelief in our thoughts ---

2 Corinthians 11:3 ESV
But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ.

Hebrew and Greek word for Doubt -----

Strong's Concordance
distazo: I waver, doubt
Original Word: διστάζω
Usage: I waver, doubt, hesitate.
HELPS Word-studies
Definition: Properly, to duplicate, i.e., (mentally) to waver (in opinion).
"wanting to have our cake and eat it too"; to halt between two opinions (views, beliefs)
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2ndTimothyGroup said:

This is False Doctrine Folks ------God never hands anyone over to Satan ----that remark is a slap in the face to God as far as I am concerned ----Where is your scripture to back that up --------

I say -------We choose to serve Satan or God that is our Choice ------Note verse 42 -------

John 8 NIV
40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”

“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.

43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say.

44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!

I say -----I think you need to decide who really is your Father ---Satan or God ------if your not Born Again than Satan who ----God made the small g of this world is Definitely your father as you are in the world and are still a sinner ------Your away from the the one true God -----Receiving Jesus in your heart changes your Status from Sinner to Saint -----

2ndTimothyGroup · Jan 20, 2022

studentoftheword said:

I stopped reading after you referred to me as ignorant.

Take care.

TheLearner · Jan 20, 2022

BroTan said:

Brothers and sisters, there is violence, and wars, famine and earthquakes all over the planet today, and most people don't consider whats going on. They hear that we are in the "last days", but most do not consider or no that all this was foretold by the prophets and our Lord and savior Jesus christ. Lets go into Matthew 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Before we get into how satan deceive the world lets take a look and see how bold the Devil is and what he controls , since the days of Jesus. Lets go into Luke 4: 3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread. 4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. 5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.

8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

So we see that satan uses his power with the kingdom of the earth. Now think about what we just read, the Devil says, "all the Kingdom are his", and that he is worshiped by those to whom he gives power to. Now, if he asked the Lord to worship him, while he was in the flesh; what about the rest of us? Let's go into Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Think about it, how does he deceive the whole world? Which means me, you and everyone else has been deceive at some point for the scriptures did not say he deceive some of the world, or part of the world, but the whole world. Let's take a look and see how Satan used his power with these kingdoms. Let's go into Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. This places are the church, brothers and sisters. Let's go into Luke 22:52 Then Jesus said unto the chief priests, and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves? 53 When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

Did you notice it was the church people who came to arrest Jesus? They did the bidding for there "father" the Devil. I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it (John 8:37-44)

See, spiritual wickness is in the pulpits of the church, which is the highest place on the earth. The church is the true government that governs the earth. The men in the postitons of feeding the flock teaches the lies of the Devil, they deceive the people into worshiping another Jesus. Paul said in 2Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. Later, brothers and sisters we will see how satan deceiveth the whole world today with the church.

And, all this time I thought Satan would use TV and Social Media.

Nehemiah6 · Jan 20, 2022

BroTan said:

You are equating believers in the Lord Jesus Christ with the world. That is totally incorrect. Believers need not -- and should not -- be deceived, since they have (1) Christ, (2) the Holy Spirit, and (3) the written Word of God (the Sword of the Spirit).

ewq1938 · Jan 20, 2022

BroTan said:

Nope.

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Deceiving here is in the present tense, not future tense so it's speaking of the world at that time so not me and you and everyone right now.

Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Obviously these people aren't deceived because they overcame satan.

Clearly the "whole world" means the world of unbelievers.

Blade · Jan 21, 2022

Thanks.. not sure where your going with this. News to me "Did you notice it was the church people who came to arrest Jesus? " When there were no Christians nor Church. Did not Christ say to Peter on this rock I will build my Church? Christ had to die and rise AMEN!

So we live in a time when those that came before us longed to see it. So many are coming to Christ and blind see deaf hear.. on and on. Greater is He that is in you then he thats in the world and Christ gave us ALL POWER ALL AUTHORITY over the enemy. The joy of the lord is our strength and we have His peace we are strong in the power of His might. We are even blessed since we believe and yet never seen Him. We can do all things through Christ which strengthens us. I guess its who you focus on.

ewq1938 · Jan 21, 2022

Blade said:

What he meant was that religious people were the ones who came for him that night.

studentoftheword · Jan 21, 2022

studentoftheword said:
Do you think God told them not to eat the fruit and then tried to trick Eve to eat it by posing a Question ---Are you really that ignorant of the Scripture

2ndTimothyGroup said:

Well
I say to you 2ndTimothyGroup-------God says this in Hosea 4 about people who are ignorant of His Word and the understanding of it---so if you don't want to rightly divide the Word then that is up to you ---we reap what we sow -----

Ignorance ---meaning ----

Greek/Hebrew Definitions
Strong's #50: agnoeo (pronounced ag-no-eh'-o)

3539; not to know (through lack of information or intelligence); by implication, to ignore (through disinclination):--(be) ignorant(-ly), not know, not understand, unknown.

Hosea 4:6 NIV
6 my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.
“Because you have rejected knowledge,
I also reject you as my priests;
because you have ignored the law of your God,
I also will ignore your children.

I say
My issue with people who take God's wood and have no understanding of it and proclaim it is this -------

-Not only are you sending yourself to eternal torment --but you are sending others to their eternal torment and that REALLY SHOULD BOTHER ANYONE WHO TAKES SCRIPTURE and puts their own spin on it because they are ignorant of the real understanding of the Message -----

Satan blinds the Minds of many because of their ignorance and lack of Wisdom in their understanding of the real truth behind God's word ------- and we who post God's word should be knowledgeable of it ----by allowing the Holy Spirit to guide us in our quest to post the truth so souls are saved not destroyed ------j

Take Care ----

2ndTimothyGroup · Jan 21, 2022

studentoftheword said:

Once again, and as you resumed your attempt at destroying my psychology, the way I think and feel about myself, I discontinued reading after you used the word, "Ignorant."

I live in Central Washington and if you are willing, I'd love to visit your "church" this Sunday, listen to the service (and even attend your Sunday morning class, if you associate with one), and afterward, sit down with you and have a chat. Are you willing to share your church name and address so that I may attend?

Thank you. My best . . .

Runningman · Jan 21, 2022

If the path is narrow then that means the battlefront is literally anything other than the truth of Christ. Christians are fighting on literally millions of different fronts simultaneously just to beat the darkness back.

We huddle together in ever-shrinking islands of light, surrounded by a world immersed in darkness.

How does the devil deceive the world? He has one front to fight on and it’s just to make sure people don’t hear the correct gospel. Meanwhile, we compete with thousands or different ideologies and opinions. How do we maintain distinction and stand out as the truth when people can’t even recognize the truth?

What should be the distinction is that we have love for our neighbor. We aren’t a light of the world, preaching the gospel, sharing our testimonies, helping the hungry and poor, just to put a check in a box. We do all of this because of our genuine and sincere love for others.

Next time you are preaching the gospel then remember that what sets you apart from all of the other talking heads is you have love. People understand love and that’s more attractive than anything else in the world. That’s why Christianity is successful.

2ndTimothyGroup · Jan 21, 2022

Who put nearly "all" of Israel into a "deep sleep"? Was it the Devil or the Lord? Was it the Devil who led Isreal astray, or did God have an Eternal Plan by which to cause the Gentiles to become "jealous?" Was the Devil setting a trap for Israel, or was it their "bountiful table"? Was it the Devil that made them stumble, or was it the Lord?

Romans 11:7-11 NLT - "So this is the situation: Most of the people of Israel have not found the favor of God they are looking for so earnestly. A few have--the ones God has chosen--but the hearts of the rest were hardened. 8 As the Scriptures say, "God has put them into a deep sleep. To this day he has shut their eyes so they do not see, and closed their ears so they do not hear." 9 Likewise, David said, "Let their bountiful table become a snare, a trap that makes them think all is well. Let their blessings cause them to stumble, and let them get what they deserve. 10 Let their eyes go blind so they cannot see, and let their backs be bent forever." 11 Did God's people stumble and fall beyond recovery? Of course not! They were disobedient, so God made salvation available to the Gentiles. But he wanted his own people to become jealous and claim it for themselves."

Calling me "ignorant" regarding the Bible is entertaining, to say the least.

TheLearner · Jan 21, 2022

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