TONGUES is a precious gift from God
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No, I just believe that by all appearances the Spirit doesn't manifest in signs and wonders at this time. I see a lot of so-called signs and wonders, some even done in accordance with Biblical teaching; but they lack anything truly miraculous. What's miraculous about someone getting before an audience and talking gibberish and someone then supposedly translating? Anyone can do that. How about something not any common con artist can't do.
Then you have so-called faith healers. Apparently stepping out on faith for a healing is okay. But when you challenge someone to drink poison or pick up a poisonous snake (a healthy one, not a sick and half-dead one like snake handlers use) they immediately say that would be testing God. If that's testing God, why isn't it testing God when you go to a faith healer to be healed?
Then there's the case of the infamous Peter Popoff, who supposedly had great powers of miraculous knowledge until James Randi exposed him using an earpiece and was being fed information from prayer cards.
Common sense bro, common sense.
Then you have so-called faith healers. Apparently stepping out on faith for a healing is okay. But when you challenge someone to drink poison or pick up a poisonous snake (a healthy one, not a sick and half-dead one like snake handlers use) they immediately say that would be testing God. If that's testing God, why isn't it testing God when you go to a faith healer to be healed?
Then there's the case of the infamous Peter Popoff, who supposedly had great powers of miraculous knowledge until James Randi exposed him using an earpiece and was being fed information from prayer cards.
Common sense bro, common sense.
How many televangelist/preachers are there? 100 max?
What about the small churches where you would never find the example that we can see on television? The majority of all Churches I have visited, whether they be Cessation/Continualist have all discredited television preachers. There is a reason they discredit them. There is a reason they do not allow what they see on television happen within the local Church. Are these local Churches doing wrong?
What about the small churches where you would never find the example that we can see on television? The majority of all Churches I have visited, whether they be Cessation/Continualist have all discredited television preachers. There is a reason they discredit them. There is a reason they do not allow what they see on television happen within the local Church. Are these local Churches doing wrong?
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I am being accused of misinterpreting the scriptures and not understanding them. i see a one or two bible verses to show me that i am wrong but these are easily explained, i quote Bible verses continually, yet i am accused of being wrong and twisting the truth, Lets let God decide. i am not accusing anyone of being saved or lost, of being close to God or not. We all stand before the judgement of God individually. I have shown you from the bible why i do not agree with the type of tongues that are practiced today, if you are interested in reading the bible verses go to the posts #44 to #66 (In that area).
1Co 14:40 Let all things be done decently and in order.
1Co 14:40 Let all things be done decently and in order.
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I've been to a lot of regular local churches and I've never once seen anyone perform a miraculous sign that couldn't easily be faked. Or which at first appeared to be a miracle but only later turned to disappointment; like when people think they've been healed when a symptom like pain is temporarily relieved, only to return later and they realize no miracle has been done at all.
I know of miraculous healings and other things that might be considered miraculous, but they were performed directly by God through prayer, not by a person who can supposedly perform miracles.
I know of miraculous healings and other things that might be considered miraculous, but they were performed directly by God through prayer, not by a person who can supposedly perform miracles.
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The one thing that seems to be lacking in this whole discussion is common sense. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what's right in front of your face. I'm not a linguist and know little to nothing about linguistics; but I don't need to. I've lived long enough in this world to know a rat when I see one.
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well I already posted that info earlier in this thread
he does follow some religion though
I asked him what it was and he declined to answer, yet here he is telling us what to do and saying no such thing as tongues
btw, folks should check the bio of people who make them question what is going on
he does follow some religion though
I asked him what it was and he declined to answer, yet here he is telling us what to do and saying no such thing as tongues
btw, folks should check the bio of people who make them question what is going on
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I am not accusing you. you ARE twisting the scriptures as I posted
you have not shown me a thing. you are just jumping up and down on your cessie soapbox
don't bring God into it. don't hide behind Him. He has not changed.
as far as quoting verses continually, anyone can copy/paste (I do it myself)....that has nothing to do with your comprehension
why bash someone elses' thread. why don't you cessies just start your own and call it "let's bash tongues and post scripture"
you have not shown me a thing. you are just jumping up and down on your cessie soapbox
don't bring God into it. don't hide behind Him. He has not changed.
as far as quoting verses continually, anyone can copy/paste (I do it myself)....that has nothing to do with your comprehension
why bash someone elses' thread. why don't you cessies just start your own and call it "let's bash tongues and post scripture"
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That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying there's no difference at all when it comes to fakery: televangelists do it; megachurches do it; small local churches do it. It's all about the money.
If someone can convince you they have miraculous powers that means they must be in close proximity to God. So when this person tells you it's your duty to tithe, maybe even double tithe, how can you question "God's anoited?"
If someone can convince you they have miraculous powers that means they must be in close proximity to God. So when this person tells you it's your duty to tithe, maybe even double tithe, how can you question "God's anoited?"
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is there no lament you will not voice?...now its the money changers who have captured your ire
I understand you are doing your best to prove tongues do not exist, but you cannot do that
but go ahead, swing at the wind. maybe you need the exercise
ps: he told me he was putting me on ignore, so I doubt he will respond.
I understand you are doing your best to prove tongues do not exist, but you cannot do that
but go ahead, swing at the wind. maybe you need the exercise
ps: he told me he was putting me on ignore, so I doubt he will respond.
is there no lament you will not voice?...now its the money changers who have captured your ire
I understand you are doing your best to prove tongues do not exist, but you cannot do that
but go ahead, swing at the wind. maybe you need the exercise
ps: he told me he was putting me on ignore, so I doubt he will respond.
I understand you are doing your best to prove tongues do not exist, but you cannot do that
but go ahead, swing at the wind. maybe you need the exercise
ps: he told me he was putting me on ignore, so I doubt he will respond.
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When the local Church is Family, Friends, local people of a small town or community, just how much of this actually happens before getting caught?
None of the Churches I attended would do something that Mary Jo, and Billy Bob, and Peggy Sue, could smear your name and ruin you in a heartbeat!
So, once again, and be practical using literal Common Sense, the majority of Small Churches you would never find being done what you see on television, is that correct?
None of the Churches I attended would do something that Mary Jo, and Billy Bob, and Peggy Sue, could smear your name and ruin you in a heartbeat!
So, once again, and be practical using literal Common Sense, the majority of Small Churches you would never find being done what you see on television, is that correct?
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well, here is the other thing though
what you say is not true at all with regard to all tongues or those who have that gift
you generalize and imagine that you have all the wisdom of someone who is not a believer....wait!.....
you are not filled with the Holy Spirit, you do not know Him and you reject the truth in favor of some other god
well, at least you are not lonely in your endeavors
but really, in spite of your insistence, we do not know you from last week's spilled milk
what you say is not true at all with regard to all tongues or those who have that gift
you generalize and imagine that you have all the wisdom of someone who is not a believer....wait!.....
you are not filled with the Holy Spirit, you do not know Him and you reject the truth in favor of some other god
well, at least you are not lonely in your endeavors
but really, in spite of your insistence, we do not know you from last week's spilled milk
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if you were actually filled with the Holy Spirit, you would possibly have a little discernment
it also helps if your ears are not itchy
you are of the persuasion we are all a little dense. far from it
I don't know how well you are able to retain what you read here, but people have been objecting to the use of TV tele turn offs since the get go
no one can convince me they have miraculous powers. those powers, if real, come from 1 of 2 places and a human being is a conduit for one if claiming powers
frankly, I have seen power from both but there is One that has already defeated the other and there is power from the devil that masquerades as light...be not deceived
try to keep up
it also helps if your ears are not itchy
you are of the persuasion we are all a little dense. far from it
I don't know how well you are able to retain what you read here, but people have been objecting to the use of TV tele turn offs since the get go
no one can convince me they have miraculous powers. those powers, if real, come from 1 of 2 places and a human being is a conduit for one if claiming powers
frankly, I have seen power from both but there is One that has already defeated the other and there is power from the devil that masquerades as light...be not deceived
try to keep up
I'm not saying every church out there is involved in fakery and fraud. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying fraud doesn't discriminate; it's found in any and all kinds of churches. But again, just because fraud is found everywhere, that doesn't mean every church out there is involved in fraud.
I'm not trying to convince you and it feels like that's what you're trying to draw me into. So have a blessed day.
I'm not trying to convince you and it feels like that's what you're trying to draw me into. So have a blessed day.