.
( I would revise that just a bit to say there is a natural realm and a
supernatural. But I'm not insisting; just saying.)
Well; until somebody out there can explain to me how a corpse is able to
communicate with another corpse from grave to grave, I will remain
compelled by reason and logic to conclude that Luke 16:19-31 speaks of
realities instead of fantasies.
Plus:
• Luke 16:25 . . Abraham said: Son, remember . . .
Now right there we should bring in Solomon because he said:
"As for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all." (Ecc 9:5)
It's likely to me that Solomon's "the dead" refers to people's remains, i.e.
their corpse. So if people's corpse is incapable of consciousness, then how
did Abraham and the rich man manage to conduct a sensible conversation
with each other in the afterlife?
Anyway: I should think that one of the negative aspects of perdition is
memory. How people down there retain their memories sans the brain cells
they left behind with their corpse, I don't know; but they do, just as the rich.
man in that story is able to experience thirst sans a flesh and blood tongue.
Apparently God has some sort of file transfer protocol that silicon valley has
yet to discover.
The older one gets, the more memories they accumulate, and many of those
memories haunt us with terrible regret. However, people down below not
only have to cope with their bad memories, but also the good ones too, and
I should think it's remembering the good things they enjoyed in life that
makes their situation only worse in the heat.
If everybody was born and raised in an oven; and never once ventured out;
that would be the only life they've ever known, so they wouldn't have a clue
what it's like to really live. For them the old maxim "Ignorance is bliss"
would certainly hold true. For example: many of the people born and raised
in Kim Jong-Un's North Korea sincerely believe the entire world is no better
off than they are because they just simply don't know any better.
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because there is a natural realm and spiritual realm there is a natural body and a spiritual one
“It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.”
1 Corinthians 15:44 KJV
oir natural body at death decays and returns to the biological matter of the earth that it came from at creation. But the spiritual body awakes in the spiritual realm for judgement . Like shedding a coat
When we were created there were two elements body made of dust and spirit coming from God
“And the Lord God
formed man of the dust of the ground,
and
breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and
man became a living soul.”
Genesis 2:7 KJV
When we die those elements seperate just as they came together the natural returns as it was and the spiritual now terrine to God having lived in the body of flesh for a time.
“Then shall
the dust return to the earth as it was:
and
the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.”
Ecclesiastes 12:7 KJV
there is a heavenly or “spiritual “ realm of existence we just can’t see it until we part the flesh it’s like another layer of existence. It’s why we can’t see God with our natural eyes
“
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must
worship him in spirit and in truth.”
John 4:24 KJV
Everyone , We are going to appear before him after we part the flesh
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that
every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”
2 Corinthians 5:10 KJV
so all are apppinted to die once by the flesh but all are apppinted to appear by the spirit before the lord for judgement of the time they spent in the body
Man has two elements one dies returns to dust one lives returns to God for judgement
“And as it is
appointed unto men once to die, but
after this the judgment:”
Hebrews 9:27 KJV
it’s the spirit that is judged for the things done while in the flesh.
“That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and
that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.”
John 3:6 KJV
“It is
the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
John 6:63 KJV
“Now this I say, brethren, that
flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.”
1 Corinthians 15:50 KJV
we are being redeemed for heavenly things
“And as
we have borne the image of the earthy,
we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.”
1 Corinthians 15:49 KJV
redeemed from the earthly and glorified in the spiritual the heavenly things
spirit is where all our life and words and thoughts exist the flesh is just a vehicle the spirit in us is what’s being saved and redeemed it’s also where our mind and heart are located ….just my opinions though
