What idiot country is this?

[peldom10]

But remember, every generation since Paul's thought theirs was it. Kinda goes back to what I said above ... they weren't wrong

True. but, hey did not have prophecies occurring all at once as we do....a big difference. Example;...looming is war with u s and Iran, Iran and Israel, Iran and most of arab world,....China and U S, Russia and U S over Ukrane and some 36 smaller conflicts pending per the u s state department.
A confluence never before recorded. This consistent with the Bible.

 

[peldom10]

It's not what we are doing, but where our focus is. I can fight abortion et al without storming the capitol or holding my nose and choosing the lesser evil every 2 years.

Then why didn't you prevent the murder of some 65 million babies by abortion?
Are you prepared to answer to God one day for that?
You will.

 

[JTB]

True. but, hey did not have prophecies occurring all at once as we do....a big difference. Example;...looming is war with u s and Iran, Iran and Israel, Iran and most of arab world,....China and U S, Russia and U S over Ukrane and some 36 smaller conflicts pending per the u s state department.
A confluence never before recorded. This consistent with the Bible.

True. Plus, prior to the internet there really wasn't the ability to engage the entire world in real time. That to me is a game changer which makes these days more relevant to prophesy.

 

[JTB]

Then why didn't you prevent the murder of some 65 million babies by abortion?
Are you prepared to answer to God one day for that?
You will.

Seriously. It's statements like that which make it hard to take you seriously.

 

[peldom10]

Seriously. It's statements like that which make it hard to take you seriously.

Don't worry about me...take God seriously.

 

[ZNP]

Seriously. It's statements like that which make it hard to take you seriously.

I think the real question is to give us some numbers as to how effective your strategy has been at reducing abortions. For example, in the last 50 years how many abortions have you personally prevented and then we can extrapolate with an army of a million Pro life Christians following your example. No one is expecting you to have prevented 65 million, but if you have prevented 65, well then, you may have something there.

 

[JTB]

I think the real question is to give us some numbers as to how effective your strategy has been at reducing abortions. For example, in the last 50 years how many abortions have you personally prevented and then we can extrapolate with an army of a million Pro life Christians following your example. No one is expecting you to have prevented 65 million, but if you have prevented 65, well then, you may have something there.

Well, that's a fair proposition but it can be turned back to you - how many abortions did you stop by storming the capitol?

I find it highly incongruent that people will fight to no end against mask and vax mandates, crying it's my body my choice, then turn around and want to force others by mandate to tow their line.

 

[ZNP]

Well, that's a fair proposition but it can be turned back to you - how many abortions did you stop by storming the capitol?

I find it highly incongruent that people will fight to no end against mask and vax mandates, crying it's my body my choice, then turn around and want to force others by mandate to tow their line.

There is a legal battle and what Texas has done is estimated to have already estimated to have saved a whole lot of babies.

https://wgnradio.com/news/political-news/timeline-of-events-surrounding-texas-ban-on-most-abortions/

So once again, how many babies have you saved with your strategy so we can compare the two approaches.

 

[Nehemiah6]

I can fight abortion et al without storming the capitol or holding my nose and choosing the lesser evil every 2 years.

1. First of all there was no "storming" of the Capitol. That was a false flag operation in which the FBI, CIA, BLM, and Antifa were involved. The Capitol police literally opened the doors to the pranksters, while the Deep State operatives tried to create a scenario which would be falsely called an "insurrection". All lies.

2. Secondly, it was not about abortion but election fraud (for those who foolishly entered the Capitol). What should have really happened is that all the Democratic politicians should have been arrested that day by the military, for major fraud and treason. They all colluded in the Fraud, and Leftist TIME magazine gave the game away.

3. Thirdly, the abortion industry is supported with tax dollars. Cut off the funding and that will make a big difference. But no one in government has done that. Billions have gone to Planned Parenthood to commit genocide.

 

[Nehemiah6]

TIME MAGAZINE
The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That "Saved" the 2020 Election
"There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. The pact was formalized in a terse, little-noticed joint statement of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and AFL-CIO published on Election Day... Though much of this activity took place on the left, it was separate from the Biden campaign and crossed ideological lines, with crucial contributions by nonpartisan and conservative actors.

Of course, since TIME magazine is shamelessly Leftist, they inserted a lot of garbage into this article to create a false narrative -- that the elections were "in danger" therefore election fraud was necessary! Can you believe that? But that is exactly what Joe Biden and the Democrats are doing right now. They are saying "We must DESTROY democracy, in order to save democracy!" "We must keep on having fraudulent elections, so that the Communists control America forever." Which is absolute rubbish, but they will convince some idiots on the Left. This is the second Bolshevik Revolution happening in front of the world.

 

[gb9]

TIME MAGAZINE
The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That "Saved" the 2020 Election
"There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. The pact was formalized in a terse, little-noticed joint statement of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and AFL-CIO published on Election Day... Though much of this activity took place on the left, it was separate from the Biden campaign and crossed ideological lines, with crucial contributions by nonpartisan and conservative actors.

Of course, since TIME magazine is shamelessly Leftist, they inserted a lot of garbage into this article to create a false narrative -- that the elections were "in danger" therefore election fraud was necessary! Can you believe that? But that is exactly what Joe Biden and the Democrats are doing right now. They are saying "We must DESTROY democracy, in order to save democracy!" "We must keep on having fraudulent elections, so that the Communists control America forever." Which is absolute rubbish, but they will convince some idiots on the Left. This is the second Bolshevik Revolution happening in front of the world.

amazing that they ( a huge magazine) just openly says this, and the reaction from most is- muh, whatever.

i hardly see any conservatives even mentioning it...

 

[ZNP]

amazing that they ( a huge magazine) just openly says this, and the reaction from most is- muh, whatever.

i hardly see any conservatives even mentioning it...

We talked a lot about it a year ago when the story came out

 

[gb9]

We talked a lot about it a year ago when the story came out

i mean " big name " conservatives .

infowars and a few other independent media outlets talked about it, but that was about it.

 

[JTB]

There is a legal battle and what Texas has done is estimated to have already estimated to have saved a whole lot of babies.

https://wgnradio.com/news/political-news/timeline-of-events-surrounding-texas-ban-on-most-abortions/

So once again, how many babies have you saved with your strategy so we can compare the two approaches.

It's not a competition. And the attitude that makes it one is an attitude that can be deceived.

OK, a mother doesn't get an abortion in Texas because of a mandate. Yeah you saved the baby... or did she just go somewhere else or do it illegally? And what about that mother? Have you saved her as well, or has the image of a draconian church hardened her heart?

Saving babies is important.

Saving mothers is too.

 

[JTB]

1. First of all there was no "storming" of the Capitol. That was a false flag operation in which the FBI, CIA, BLM, and Antifa were involved. The Capitol police literally opened the doors to the pranksters, while the Deep State operatives tried to create a scenario which would be falsely called an "insurrection". All lies.

2. Secondly, it was not about abortion but election fraud (for those who foolishly entered the Capitol). What should have really happened is that all the Democratic politicians should have been arrested that day by the military, for major fraud and treason. They all colluded in the Fraud, and Leftist TIME magazine gave the game away.

3. Thirdly, the abortion industry is supported with tax dollars. Cut off the funding and that will make a big difference. But no one in government has done that. Billions have gone to Planned Parenthood to commit genocide.

I'll agree with you on point no 3.

As for the first two, all I've got to say is

 

[ZNP]

It's not a competition. And the attitude that makes it one is an attitude that can be deceived.

OK, a mother doesn't get an abortion in Texas because of a mandate. Yeah you saved the baby... or did she just go somewhere else or do it illegally? And what about that mother? Have you saved her as well, or has the image of a draconian church hardened her heart?

Saving babies is important.

Saving mothers is too.

Fair enough, you can have a multitude of strategies with a diverse plan not only to reduce abortions but also to help mothers. But again, the only way we can assess the effectiveness of a strategy is to look at the numbers. Maybe the legal approach can reduce the numbers of abortions by 50% and helping mothers can reduce it by another 10%. That is fine, the only way we get to a 60% reduction is with both strategies.

But instead of hypothetical numbers give us the real numbers, how many mothers in the last 50 years have you assisted, helping them to see they didn't need to get an abortion?

 

[Nehemiah6]

amazing that they ( a huge magazine) just openly says this, and the reaction from most is- muh, whatever. i hardly see any conservatives even mentioning it...

Exactly. After this was published, there should have been a hue and cry from the conservatives, and a demand to investigate the conspiracy. But there was total silence. And absolutely no one has tried to consolidate all the efforts to expose election fraud in all the different states under one "umbrella", so that all conservatives are not only fully aware of every effort in every state, but also are jointly behind a serious attempt to overthrow the fraudulent election of Biden. A huge report should have been printed and published by now with everything that has been discovered. Sidney Powell has been more or less shunted to one side, when she should have been in charge of this effort.

 

[Combanitorics]

There is too much bloody science in this country. I remember being forced to read Darwin as a sophomore and finding the eternal loops inherent in the evolutionary theory and the contradictions. In math, what did they teach you first in Algebra? Always express you answer in the simplest terms, right? One of my primary grievances against evolution is that it contradicts that principle. Evolution extends world history and complexifies it. New scientific words have to be coined, and science is very commonly rooted in ancient or "dead" languages. (Latin for the solid physics and Greek for the more spiritual life studies like psychology). As the mathematicians move towards the Theory of Everything singularity and put the finishing touches on biochemistry and the emergence of life from carbon-based granite non-life via heat, the language begins to amalgamate Greek and Latin. This plays absolute havoc with ancient history and literature.

 

[peldom10]

Well, that's a fair proposition but it can be turned back to you - how many abortions did you stop by storming the capitol?

I find it highly incongruent that people will fight to no end against mask and vax mandates, crying it's my body my choice, then turn around and want to force others by mandate to tow their line.

Storming the capital? WOW....your leftist position is established.

Assembling at the capital represented many items...abortion was one.
Since when can't folks assemble for redress of grievances? The constitution provides for that.

 

[peldom10]

Exactly. After this was published, there should have been a hue and cry from the conservatives, and a demand to investigate the conspiracy. But there was total silence. And absolutely no one has tried to consolidate all the efforts to expose election fraud in all the different states under one "umbrella", so that all conservatives are not only fully aware of every effort in every state, but also are jointly behind a serious attempt to overthrow the fraudulent election of Biden. A huge report should have been printed and published by now with everything that has been discovered. Sidney Powell has been more or less shunted to one side, when she should have been in charge of this effort.

The republicans let the conservative group down. There should have been at least 500 law suits filed within 48 hours of the election.
Lets face it...the election was stolen and the history books will reflect that conclusion.