What idiot country is this?

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JTB

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I doubt God is against advocating for righteousness by being against abortions, drugs, lower moral standards, homosexuality, same sex togetherness ( no...not marriage...that is only between a man and a woman) removing God and the Bible from our midst, etc.
It's not what we are doing, but where our focus is. I can fight abortion et al without storming the capitol or holding my nose and choosing the lesser evil every 2 years.
 
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"A higher plane," hehe
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Frankly, I think that heart attack, that car crash, that your-ticket-is-punched moment is your rapture. And thus like the arrogant farmer, it could be tonight for any one of us.
I do think there will be a mass rapture in the future, but I agree that death itself is a form of rapture that all the saints between Christ and now who died have experienced.

You challenged me to provide something that shows we are not that close to the end. I would encourage a study of Daniel 7, which is an overview of the last four human empires before Christ returns. The final one is the terrible horned beast kingdom of the Antichrist which we see again in Revelation.

What about the first three?
 

JTB

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Okay, good thoughts. But all the prophecies ARE NOT fulfilled. There is a BIG ONE that everyone seems to be missing, and the "decrease of moral standards and civil decay" are a precursor to it:

THE FALL OF MYSTERY BABYLON

It's discussed in detail in Daniel, Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Revelation.

The Whore of Babylon RIDES the terrible beast (Antichrist kingdom) at first, but then the terrible beast turns, burns her with fire, and devours her. As a judgment for her sins.

MYSTERY BABYLON IS AMERICA

Free ebook:
https://jumpshare.com/v/jeSAwCROD3LUDplD1RAX

https://www.amazon.com/How-America-Ends-J-States-ebook/dp/B07TW8HQ57
This is true, America is not a player in the end times and thus must be removed from the world stage before it hits the fan.

You don't think we're straddling that cliff right now?
 

JTB

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I do think there will be a mass rapture in the future, but I agree that death itself is a form of rapture that all the saints between Christ and now who died have experienced.

You challenged me to provide something that shows we are not that close to the end. I would encourage a study of Daniel 7, which is an overview of the last four human empires before Christ returns. The final one is the terrible horned beast kingdom of the Antichrist which we see again in Revelation.

What about the first three?
Given 3.5 years of Christians being arrested and killed, and the many who will turn away from Him because of that persecution, I believe that the number of those who are caught up alive will actually be very small.
 

JTB

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I do think there will be a mass rapture in the future, but I agree that death itself is a form of rapture that all the saints between Christ and now who died have experienced.

You challenged me to provide something that shows we are not that close to the end. I would encourage a study of Daniel 7, which is an overview of the last four human empires before Christ returns. The final one is the terrible horned beast kingdom of the Antichrist which we see again in Revelation.

What about the first three?
I came up with this last October ... no we weren't quite there yet but I don't think I was off the tracks

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This is true, America is not a player in the end times and thus must be removed from the world stage before it hits the fan.

You don't think we're straddling that cliff right now?
I think we are about to take the big plunge, my friend.

Daniel 7 has the winged lion, then the ravenous bear, then the winged leopard, then the terrible horned beast.

My book "How America Ends" talks about how we are living in Mystery Babylon, which is the winged lion. America will become embroiled in a civil war, at which point a coalition of eastern nations, headed by the Russian bear, will destroy her in one day with a nuclear first strike.

Like America before her, having demonstrated the will to use her nuclear weapons, Russia will become the new superpower and will begin an era of world conquest. Eventually we will get to the terrible beast kingdom as each world superpower becomes more bloody and anti-God.

Jer 51:44 And I will punish Bel in Babylon, and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he hath swallowed up: and the nations shall not flow together any more unto him: yea, the wall of Babylon shall fall.
Jer 51:45 My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD.
Jer 51:46 And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land; a rumour shall both come one year, and after that in another year shall come a rumour, and violence in the land, ruler against ruler.
Jer 51:47 Therefore, behold, the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her.
 

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I think we are about to take the big plunge, my friend.

Daniel 7 has the winged lion, then the ravenous bear, then the winged leopard, then the terrible horned beast.

My book "How America Ends" talks about how we are living in Mystery Babylon, which is the winged lion. America will become embroiled in a civil war, at which point a coalition of eastern nations, headed by the Russian bear, will destroy her in one day with a nuclear first strike.

Like America before her, having demonstrated the will to use her nuclear weapons, Russia will become the new superpower and will begin an era of world conquest. Eventually we will get to the terrible beast kingdom as each world superpower becomes more bloody and anti-God.

Jer 51:44 And I will punish Bel in Babylon, and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he hath swallowed up: and the nations shall not flow together any more unto him: yea, the wall of Babylon shall fall.
Jer 51:45 My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD.
Jer 51:46 And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land; a rumour shall both come one year, and after that in another year shall come a rumour, and violence in the land, ruler against ruler.
Jer 51:47 Therefore, behold, the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her.
I was listen to the radio about a person from communist country make prophecy that USA will be nuc

I don't know it is from the Lord or not, but I think if people want win to USA is to use nuclear if you manage to straight first. Otherwise no body will win to the USA modern weapon
 

VineyardsOfEngedi

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A conservative anarchist - thank you for coining that. A lot of conservatives talk about democracy, but mean anarchy instead. Nice to hear one finally admit it!
LOL I don't know if you mean that in a good or bad way :LOL: but you're welcome?:unsure:
 

JTB

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I think we are about to take the big plunge, my friend.

Daniel 7 has the winged lion, then the ravenous bear, then the winged leopard, then the terrible horned beast.

My book "How America Ends" talks about how we are living in Mystery Babylon, which is the winged lion. America will become embroiled in a civil war, at which point a coalition of eastern nations, headed by the Russian bear, will destroy her in one day with a nuclear first strike.

Like America before her, having demonstrated the will to use her nuclear weapons, Russia will become the new superpower and will begin an era of world conquest. Eventually we will get to the terrible beast kingdom as each world superpower becomes more bloody and anti-God.

Jer 51:44 And I will punish Bel in Babylon, and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he hath swallowed up: and the nations shall not flow together any more unto him: yea, the wall of Babylon shall fall.
Jer 51:45 My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD.
Jer 51:46 And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land; a rumour shall both come one year, and after that in another year shall come a rumour, and violence in the land, ruler against ruler.
Jer 51:47 Therefore, behold, the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her.
Ya know, I can't really argue against that scenario. That is an entirely possible understanding.
 

JTB

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By making myself available to a woman who is considering having an abortion? Carry lunch bags with sandwiches, chips and a drink around in your car and handing them out to people begging on the corners? Find an elderly/disabled neighbor and before you go shopping and ask if you can get anything for them? You can't force things on people by edict, you will only harden their hearts (the current mask/vax debacle is proof of that). But if you help them individually, one on one, you'll soften those hearts.

So the next time you feel like storming the capitol, go spend the day at a soup kitchen volunteering instead. You'll make greater inroads with more people that way, than by looking like some renegade moron on TV.
 

VineyardsOfEngedi

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By making myself available to a woman who is considering having an abortion? Carry lunch bags with sandwiches, chips and a drink around in your car and handing them out to people begging on the corners? Find an elderly/disabled neighbor and before you go shopping and ask if you can get anything for them? You can't force things on people by edict, you will only harden their hearts (the current mask/vax debacle is proof of that). But if you help them individually, one on one, you'll soften those hearts.

So the next time you feel like storming the capitol, go spend the day at a soup kitchen volunteering instead. You'll make greater inroads with more people that way, than by looking like some renegade moron on TV.
Oh ok, and yes I agree doing these things will win over the people but I guess I thought you were referring to a way that would disarm the powers that be aka the people at top.
 

JTB

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Oh ok, and yes I agree doing these things will win over the people but I guess I thought you were referring to a way that would disarm the powers that be aka the people at top.
We can't. Scorpions are gonna do what scorpions do. That's why God tells us to prepare, not prevent.