Money is Satan

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Veridican

Veridican

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When you get it, when you see it, you know it like no other thing. Money, in all its forms, is Satan. Economics, all of it, is the religion of Satan; it is the theology of Satan.

Money must be brought down. Money must be defeated. The book of Revelation, at its core, is about the fight of Christ against the forces of money.

If you don't believe me, let your mind wander. Go all the way back into the far reaches of human history and consider how much misery money has brought the human race.

I don't know what to do about it. I have no solution to offer you. All I can do is type the final lines of Revelation:

He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
 
Blain

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Let me ask you this, if you set a hundred dollar bill on the table and left it alone can it do anything? the only thing that would change that scenario is if someone walked by and stole it it can do nothingg on it's own and thus cannot be anything on it's own. We can try to blame satan but it is us humans who are the problem not money in fact you could say that land and territory is satan if you go by your logic as many wars and some of the most horrific things were done not for money but for land and territory
 
Dino246

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The ignorance of your post is astounding.

Firstly, the term, "satan" means "accuser". Secondly, money is completely neutral; it is the use of money that may be evil.

You clearly haven't read Revelation anywhere near closely enough. Please, go and take your ignorant fearmongering with you.
 
Veridican

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Blain said:
Let me ask you this, if you set a hundred dollar bill on the table and left it alone can it do anything? the only thing that would change that scenario is if someone walked by and stole it it can do nothingg on it's own and thus cannot be anything on it's own. We can try to blame satan but it is us humans who are the problem not money in fact you could say that land and territory is satan if you go by your logic as many wars and some of the most horrific things were done not for money but for land and territory
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Of course, I mean money in all its forms. Mammon. And it's not my logic, Brian. I got it from Christ. You should get it, too.

I'll tell you, even if you can't do anything about it--except die--at least you can stop serving it. And I'm not saying you are, but again, think of all the misery it's brought. You know we're the only animals on the earth that use it. Every other species gets along without it. Adam and Eve got along without it, and in the new heaven and earth, it won't exist.
 
tourist

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The bible states that it is the love of money that is the root of all evil, rather than the money itself.
 
Veridican

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Dino246 said:
The ignorance of your post is astounding.
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You think so? I'm far too melancholy right now to argue with you. Besides, you're right: my ignorance is astounding to me as well. I should have done something else with my life. I should have lived it differently.

Firstly, the term, "satan" means "accuser". Secondly, money is completely neutral; it is the use of money that may be evil.
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No. You're falling for his lie, as I have for almost my entire life. The entire system is evil. It makes me not want to live anymore, to be quite honest. But my wife and my dog need me. But the only reason to live is for the love of others. Take that away, and we are merely "consumers" in his game.

You clearly haven't read Revelation anywhere near closely enough. Please, go and take your ignorant fearmongering with you.
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Look how much you hate me for what I've said. You don't even know me, and you are filled with a vile hate for me because I told you a truth you don't want to hear. And I don't judge you. It has corrupted us all--to the very core.

As for Revelation, read about Babylon--no... You know what I'm going to do. I'm going to type the whole thing for you right now. You don't have to believe me, but I am literall typing Revelation 17 for you...

And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials and talked with me saying unto me, Come hither; I will show unto thee the judgement of the great whore that sitteh upon many waters: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet-colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple wand scarlet color, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. And the angel said unto me, wherefore didst thou marvel: I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hat the seven heads and ten horns. The beast that thou sawest was and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. And the beast that was and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lor of lords and King of kings: and hey that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest where the whore sitteth are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, an shall make her desolate and naked and shall eat her flesh and burn her with fire. For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will and to agree and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of ‘God shall be fulfilled. And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Probably some typos, but hey, trust me, I'm not afraid to dive into Revelation--in depth.

Peace
 
Blain

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Veridican said:
Of course, I mean money in all its forms. Mammon. And it's not my logic, Brian. I got it from Christ. You should get it, too.

I'll tell you, even if you can't do anything about it--except die--at least you can stop serving it. And I'm not saying you are, but again, think of all the misery it's brought. You know we're the only animals on the earth that use it. Every other species gets along without it. Adam and Eve got along without it, and in the new heaven and earth, it won't exist.
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You make plenty of claims but what evidence do you have? If what you say is true then why did Jesus tell everyone to pay taxes? Mark 12:17 Then Jesus said to them, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.” And they were amazed at him.

And again it is mentioned in the bible
Romans 13:7-8

Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed. Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law

So no you did not hear it from God
 
Blain

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Veridican said:
Of course, I mean money in all its forms. Mammon. And it's not my logic, Brian. I got it from Christ. You should get it, too.

I'll tell you, even if you can't do anything about it--except die--at least you can stop serving it. And I'm not saying you are, but again, think of all the misery it's brought. You know we're the only animals on the earth that use it. Every other species gets along without it. Adam and Eve got along without it, and in the new heaven and earth, it won't exist.
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Also my name is Blain and what do you mean die exactly?
 
Veridican

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tourist said:
The bible states that it is the love of money that is the root of all evil, rather than the money itself.
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That's not what Paul said. He didn't say "The love of money is the root of all evil, rather than the money itself." He said, "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."

You take his verse, and then you add your own bit onto it. Don't you see how that's a lie from Satan? See how it's integrated into your thinking?
 
Blain

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Veridican said:
That's not what Paul said. He didn't say "The love of money is the root of all evil, rather than the money itself." He said, "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."

You take his verse, and then you add your own bit onto it. Don't you see how that's a lie from Satan? See how it's integrated into your thinking?
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And yet in the verse he clearly says the love of money is the root of all evil not money itself, so far you don't have a leg to stand on do you have any evidence to support your claims or are just going to give your own two cents without any proof in what you say?
 
Veridican

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Blain said:
You make plenty of claims but what evidence do you have?
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What are talking about? What is your position on this?


If what you say is true then why did Jesus tell everyone to pay taxes?
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He didn't. He told people to give back all their money to the government whom it belongs to. You can see that clearly in the verse you posted.

Mark 12:17 Then Jesus said to them, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.” And they were amazed at him.
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And again it is mentioned in the bible
Romans 13:7-8

Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed. Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law

So no you did not hear it from God
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Apparently, I did. I mean, you supplied the verses. Because what is Paul saying? He's talking about getting rid of money, not accumulating, and here's something else: Paul is saying you should be in 0 debt as well. Jesus didn't talk about debt, because Jesus didn't think any of us should be working for money at all.
 
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Veridican said:
That's not what Paul said. He didn't say "The love of money is the root of all evil, rather than the money itself." He said, "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."

You take his verse, and then you add your own bit onto it. Don't you see how that's a lie from Satan? See how it's integrated into your thinking?
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Yeah, exactly like I said. You seem to think that money itself is evil rather than the love of money. I didn't offer a quote but rather what intrinsically was stated regarding money.
 
Blain

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Veridican said:
What are talking about? What is your position on this?




He didn't. He told people to give back all their money to the government whom it belongs to. You can see that clearly in the verse you posted.





Apparently, I did. I mean, you supplied the verses. Because what is Paul saying? He's talking about getting rid of money, not accumulating, and here's something else: Paul is saying you should be in 0 debt as well. Jesus didn't talk about debt, because Jesus didn't think any of us should be working for money at all.
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Now who is adding their own thinking into this? don't forget the question that was asked of Jesus is should we pay taxes if you know how paying taxes works then you should know it is not a one time give all thing and as for what Paul said show mw where in that verse he mentions getting rid of money he said the love of it not get rid of it and as for what I mean by evidence is simply put scripture you cannot expect bible believing Christians to simply take you at your word with no scripturally evidence to support your claim
 
Veridican

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tourist said:
Yeah, exactly like I said.
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WHAT? It's not exactly like you said at all.

You seem to think that money itself is evil rather than the love of money. I didn't offer a quote but rather what intrinsically was stated regarding money.
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It is evil. It is, to use your word, intrinsically evil. The entire system of it is evil. I mean, the actual paper bill is inanimate, true, but I don't think that's what we're talking about. I certainly hope not.
 
Veridican

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Blain said:
Now who is adding their own thinking into this? don't forget the question that was asked of Jesus is should we pay taxes if you know how paying taxes works then you should know it is not a one time give all thing and as for what Paul said show mw where in that verse he mentions getting rid of money he said the love of it not get rid of it and as for what I mean by evidence is simply put scripture you cannot expect bible believing Christians to simply take you at your word with no scripturally evidence to support your claim
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The Bible-believing Christians know the verses, just like you do. And that is what Jesus meant because it's in the context of a sermon on not even working for money to begin with.

I'm not innocent here. No one is, I don't think. We've all worked for money and things. We live in this world, but that's just it. The world has to be destroyed. Money is Satan. Satan is a personal pronoun; money is his effect in the world. Mammon is the spirit of Satan as money. IT CORRUPTS EVERYTHING.

That's why Jesus said you can't be rich and follow him. You can't be rich and get into the Kingdom of God.
 
Veridican

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What really brings me down is there is no escaping it. I hate what it has turned me into, the more I think about it.
 
Dino246

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Veridican said:
Look how much you hate me for what I've said. You don't even know me, and you are filled with a vile hate for me because I told you a truth you don't want to hear.
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I don't hate you at all, but I think you're quite thoroughly wrong, and I'm not afraid to tell you so.
 
Dino246

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Veridican said:
Because you love money. And your eyes aren't open.
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Any other groundless assumptions you care to make? Insulting me isn't going to get you anything good.
 
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