Cheap grace describes an idea put forth by Dietrich Bonhoeffer. And I SAY it is a very real condition suffered by many professing believers. Easy grace (and yes, I did do a take off of Bonhoeffer) is a term I use to describe those who instead of really digging in and understanding the word just follow someone preaching a doctrine that they have the power to do whatever they want.
How does Satan keep getting unbound?
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cdan2 -----you said -----but if you are trying to bind the devil "SPIRITUALLY" on your own, you are in danger of failure.
I agree with that statement ---but God resides in the Born Again person ---so they are not alone ----we need to keep our focus on God and put His instructions into action to keep Satan at Bay -----God has given Satan permission to interfere in peoples lives ---and that still stands ---
For instance ----we have to submit to God and resist the devil ---so we need to put your faith into action and resist ---God provided the way --we have to do the work ----do what the word says
James 4:7 “Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.”
So here we have to keep our wits about us and be watchful so we don't get devoured ----God provided the instruction ---we have to put our faith in the word into action ------and do as it says
I Peter 5:8 “Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.”
here we see we need to not let our anger make us sin ------and to not stay anger linger --as it gives Satan a foothold ----God provided the instruction ---we have to put our Faithinto action and do what it says
Ephesians 4 :26 --26 “In your anger do not sin”[d]: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, 27 and do not give the devil a foothold.
God did his job --we have our part to do -----
I agree with that statement ---but God resides in the Born Again person ---so they are not alone ----we need to keep our focus on God and put His instructions into action to keep Satan at Bay -----God has given Satan permission to interfere in peoples lives ---and that still stands ---
For instance ----we have to submit to God and resist the devil ---so we need to put your faith into action and resist ---God provided the way --we have to do the work ----do what the word says
James 4:7 “Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.”
So here we have to keep our wits about us and be watchful so we don't get devoured ----God provided the instruction ---we have to put our faith in the word into action ------and do as it says
I Peter 5:8 “Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.”
here we see we need to not let our anger make us sin ------and to not stay anger linger --as it gives Satan a foothold ----God provided the instruction ---we have to put our Faithinto action and do what it says
Ephesians 4 :26 --26 “In your anger do not sin”[d]: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, 27 and do not give the devil a foothold.
God did his job --we have our part to do -----
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satan has lots of demons doing his bidding. Remember the 'legions' that Jesus cast out. And there were seven devils or demons in Mary Magadlene, not just one.
I dont recall in spiritual warfare that satan was ever bound, he was always going to and fro on the earth...but he also has minions.
The other thing is if youve ever given satan legal rights...he'll return to bother you. The point is to be filled with the holy spirit and be sealed by God so he wont return. Because your house wont just be empty and swept clean...it will be occupied by the Holy Spirit and therefore satan has no legal right to stay there. Hes been evicted.
There is a difference between binding a demon and evicting him. Jesus evicted (cast out) demons, He didnt just bind them. THough that is the first step.
satan has lots of demons doing his bidding. Remember the 'legions' that Jesus cast out. And there were seven devils or demons in Mary Magadlene, not just one.
I dont recall in spiritual warfare that satan was ever bound, he was always going to and fro on the earth...but he also has minions.
The other thing is if youve ever given satan legal rights...he'll return to bother you. The point is to be filled with the holy spirit and be sealed by God so he wont return. Because your house wont just be empty and swept clean...it will be occupied by the Holy Spirit and therefore satan has no legal right to stay there. Hes been evicted.
There is a difference between binding a demon and evicting him. Jesus evicted (cast out) demons, He didnt just bind them. THough that is the first step.
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The exact same way he started winning the battle when Moses' staff dropped down, and thus Arron and Joshua had to help him hold up the staff. You know why? Because Gid wo could win the battles now, by Himself, is trying to teach us how to win the war via prayer, just like Jesus overcame Satan by the 40 days of fasting and praying, then with the Word of God. Satan is the gid of this world, thus we the Church have to rebuke him, resist his lies, and bind him, and we are given clear demonstrations throughout the New Testament of the Disciples doing just that, and Jesus also told Peter, get the behind me Satan.
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
I truthfully will never understand people mocking their own brothers who are holding up tat staff !!
Its utterly weird !! Satan loves dividing us.
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
I truthfully will never understand people mocking their own brothers who are holding up tat staff !!
Its utterly weird !! Satan loves dividing us.
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Mat 18:1 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
Mat 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Mat 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
Does the binding and loosing promise apply to ALL believers... or to the disciples, with whom Jesus was privately speaking when He said these words?
Mat 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Mat 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
Does the binding and loosing promise apply to ALL believers... or to the disciples, with whom Jesus was privately speaking when He said these words?
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THAT is an excellent question! One of the things we must always ask ourselves is who is being addressed. In this case it is the men who are to be sent out to establish the first congegations of believers outside Israel. These will be the men who have the authority to make decisions, to lead people to Yeshua and then to lead them as congregations in the broader sense. And they are the men who will have the power to discern what has been decided in heaven and apply it on earth- the real meaning of to "bind and loosen" (as was established here earlier). Can it apply to any believer? Sure, if called by God. Pastors should have it, though most, preaching their easy grace and worse, cheap grace do not. TV evangelists and their counterparts on the internet do not have it. Neither do those whose mission is absolute control have it. Few do, and I suspect none do to the extent those first apostles did. If you find one of them, hold fast to him because they are special.
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I suspect you are close to the mark here.
And we must consider that God allows Satan to be unbound for purposes involving His glory, as well as human choice and consequence. A good example is the book of Job. I'm not sure that any demon can be "bound" in the sense of complete negation of their free will. Free will is important to God for the duration of history.
And we must consider that God allows Satan to be unbound for purposes involving His glory, as well as human choice and consequence. A good example is the book of Job. I'm not sure that any demon can be "bound" in the sense of complete negation of their free will. Free will is important to God for the duration of history.
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So why use the Hebrew name for Jesus here? Because the entire 1st half of the book of Acts the apostles went to the Jews in the diaspora (which was there before Rome kicked them all out, just not as much nor enforced). Gentiles didn't start showing up in the congregations in large numbers until later; "To the Jew first, then to the Gentile." There is an order to God's plan. Not everyone has the power to loose or to bind. Not everyone has the authority to confront a demon. But "everyone" running around shouting "Satan I bind you" disrupts that order and makes a mockery of the truth. Everyone does not have the same gifts nor the calling that requires them!
Exodus 35:30-33 NASB 30 Then Moses said to the sons of Israel, “See, the Lord has called by name Bezalel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah. 31 And He has filled him with the Spirit of God, in wisdom, in understanding, in knowledge, and in all craftsmanship; 32 to create designs for working in gold, in silver, and in bronze, 33 and in the cutting of stones for settings and in the carving of wood, so as to perform in every inventive work.
Why only Bezalel? He was not the only righteous man in the camp. So why give him the extra outpouring of the Spirit and not everyone? Because someone has to be in charge. Moses ws in charge of the nation, but when it came to the Tabernacle construction, which had to be perfect in every detail, Bezalel was in charge. God had called him to this task, and no other. Everyone else had their own jobs to do as they were given the talents and calling. And they were all volunteers.
We likewise should accept the position we were called to, not demanding "all power" (which really just amounts to "Give ME the glory!).
Isaiah 42:8a,b NASB 8 I am the Lord, that is My name;
I will not give My glory to another,
We need to get over this idea that we must make an exhibition of ourselves, prove we are holier than others, or whatever the reason we feel compelled to put ourselves on a pedestal with these doctrines of easy grace.
Exodus 35:30-33 NASB 30 Then Moses said to the sons of Israel, “See, the Lord has called by name Bezalel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah. 31 And He has filled him with the Spirit of God, in wisdom, in understanding, in knowledge, and in all craftsmanship; 32 to create designs for working in gold, in silver, and in bronze, 33 and in the cutting of stones for settings and in the carving of wood, so as to perform in every inventive work.
Why only Bezalel? He was not the only righteous man in the camp. So why give him the extra outpouring of the Spirit and not everyone? Because someone has to be in charge. Moses ws in charge of the nation, but when it came to the Tabernacle construction, which had to be perfect in every detail, Bezalel was in charge. God had called him to this task, and no other. Everyone else had their own jobs to do as they were given the talents and calling. And they were all volunteers.
We likewise should accept the position we were called to, not demanding "all power" (which really just amounts to "Give ME the glory!).
Isaiah 42:8a,b NASB 8 I am the Lord, that is My name;
I will not give My glory to another,
We need to get over this idea that we must make an exhibition of ourselves, prove we are holier than others, or whatever the reason we feel compelled to put ourselves on a pedestal with these doctrines of easy grace.
Once the Holy Spirit indwells the person He never leaves so while the believer will sin at times ---the Holy Spirit is there to convict the person of that sin and the true believer will understand that when they sin they grieve the Holy Spirit if they act on the sinful thought and will do everything in their power to cast out or cast down the thought to sin ------that is our job -----All Satan can do is put a thought in your mind -----
An example -----a Holy Spirit filled believer is at the grocery store ---they are in a line up ----the person in front gets to the cash ---they start conversing about the hockey game they watch with the clerk and are going over every detail of the game and you are just wanting to get your groceries and get out of the store -------all of a sudden you have this thought and urge to lash out and become verbally aggressive to the person in front of you -----
Question --------is that God or Satan putting that thought in your mind ---????????
Here is the thing --with our thoughts ---if we do not cast the thought out and replace it with Godly thoughts ----our body will eventually move to act on that thought ---and ---what is in your heart the mouth will speak -------
Paul was harassed by Satan and ask God 3 times to release him from this thorn in his side -----
God's Reply was -----My Grace is sufficient-- in your weakness my power is made perfect -----Paul had to get that he already had the tool available to bind ---limit ----Satan's attacks from plaguing him ----
And we are no different we have the resource to access to stay clean from sin but it is up to us to actually access it and put it into practice --------that is how I see that -----
An example -----a Holy Spirit filled believer is at the grocery store ---they are in a line up ----the person in front gets to the cash ---they start conversing about the hockey game they watch with the clerk and are going over every detail of the game and you are just wanting to get your groceries and get out of the store -------all of a sudden you have this thought and urge to lash out and become verbally aggressive to the person in front of you -----
Question --------is that God or Satan putting that thought in your mind ---????????
Here is the thing --with our thoughts ---if we do not cast the thought out and replace it with Godly thoughts ----our body will eventually move to act on that thought ---and ---what is in your heart the mouth will speak -------
Paul was harassed by Satan and ask God 3 times to release him from this thorn in his side -----
God's Reply was -----My Grace is sufficient-- in your weakness my power is made perfect -----Paul had to get that he already had the tool available to bind ---limit ----Satan's attacks from plaguing him ----
And we are no different we have the resource to access to stay clean from sin but it is up to us to actually access it and put it into practice --------that is how I see that -----
Psalm 5:5 ESV 5 The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers.
So I say, in your pride running around binding satan God is NOT in or with you. And you have never addressed my points on context or definitions of terms in my first reply to you; instead choosing to camouflage your responses in broken segments that run off the trail like a red herring. And you are wrong- God does NOT abide where there is sin:
Isaiah 63:10
But they rebelled
And grieved His Holy Spirit;
Therefore He turned Himself to become their enemy,
He fought against them.
Thats just it, Satan has not been bound yet. When God binds him he will be in the bottomless pit and unable to decieve the nations.
Satan is touring lie a roaring lion seeking who he may devour. While we can resist with the word in our hearts. And slow down or cancel his affect in our lives. He is not bound
Satan is touring lie a roaring lion seeking who he may devour. While we can resist with the word in our hearts. And slow down or cancel his affect in our lives. He is not bound
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LOL -----If that is your opinion then that is your opinion -----and your entitled to it ------
You keep posting Old Testament Scripture --- ------Jesus had not come in the flesh yet ------the indwelling of the Holy Spirit only came after Jesus die and was resurrected -----
The sins----past --present and Future of the true Believer are forgiven -----so even as we do miss the Mark ---God does not charge sin to our account ---the Blood of Jesus covered all sin for all time for all people who receive Him as their Lord and Saviour ------
Our Spirit Man is made Holy and we are heaven bound ------but our flesh ---which refers to our mind here is still in the world and we have to change our worldly thinking to God's way of thinking ----that is our part to transform ----
Greek word for Flesh
(sarks) is generally negative, referring to making decisions (actions) according to self – iThis is carnal ("of the flesh") and proceeds out of the untouched (unchanged) part of us – i.e. what is not transformed by God.
God Changed our Human Corrupt Spirit to a Holy uncorrupt Spirit ------we are responsible to change our old worldly way of thinking -----to God's way ----
Romans 12:2 NIV
2 Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will
It was me actually. I unbound him everytime one of these televangelists bound him.
In all seriousness. The issue is that satan is not bound yet, he will be when Jesus returns. But as of now, he is actively deceiving the whole world (Revelation 12)
Don't waste your time with amillennialism, a system that tries to say satan is actively deceiving the entire earth, but is bound because he is not deceiving the people into the final rebellion...
As for this business of "binding satan" everytime something bad happens, people often believe in dualism without knowing it. There is this evil force and a good force and they are fighting it out. That is actually not exactly true, take for example giving over your kingdom to the beast, would you guys say thats a bad or a good thing? Very bad right? Well, no amount of praying is going to stop that from happening for two reasons:
1. The Bible says God puts it in the hearts of these people to give their kingdom over to the beast
2. The Scriptures must be fulfilled.
Not preachin calvinism here, just saying certain things must take place, perhaps covid is one of these? Covid has divided the church, people and families. If this was a test on how loving we are on an issue that has nothing to do with the Bible, did we pass or fail? Did we accept differing opinions on the covid issue, an issue that concerning eternity is meaningless.
In all seriousness. The issue is that satan is not bound yet, he will be when Jesus returns. But as of now, he is actively deceiving the whole world (Revelation 12)
Don't waste your time with amillennialism, a system that tries to say satan is actively deceiving the entire earth, but is bound because he is not deceiving the people into the final rebellion...
As for this business of "binding satan" everytime something bad happens, people often believe in dualism without knowing it. There is this evil force and a good force and they are fighting it out. That is actually not exactly true, take for example giving over your kingdom to the beast, would you guys say thats a bad or a good thing? Very bad right? Well, no amount of praying is going to stop that from happening for two reasons:
1. The Bible says God puts it in the hearts of these people to give their kingdom over to the beast
2. The Scriptures must be fulfilled.
Not preachin calvinism here, just saying certain things must take place, perhaps covid is one of these? Covid has divided the church, people and families. If this was a test on how loving we are on an issue that has nothing to do with the Bible, did we pass or fail? Did we accept differing opinions on the covid issue, an issue that concerning eternity is meaningless.
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Why didn't it work? Covid is still here. It just never works, never ever do the televangelists get it right. For some reason their audience doesn't notice hey, these guys did all this stuff in the name of Jesus and nothing ever works out, year after year? Is this the biggest scam going?
In the Bible when Jesus healed someone, it actually worked, in the Bible when Jesus (or the apostles for that matter) did something it actually WORKED, they didn't just yell about some prophetic anointing and holler without anything taking place.
That is my issue with these televangelists, it just never work. The proof is NOT in the pudding.
In the Bible when Jesus healed someone, it actually worked, in the Bible when Jesus (or the apostles for that matter) did something it actually WORKED, they didn't just yell about some prophetic anointing and holler without anything taking place.
That is my issue with these televangelists, it just never work. The proof is NOT in the pudding.
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Clearly Satan was never bound or he got unbound. Copeland returned in December 2020 invoking a mighty wind to blow away COVID-19. At 1:00 in he tells Satan to fall on his face, then laughs like he himself has just realized the absurdity of the whole thing.
The only thing in this video that looks like Satan is Copeland's face.
The only thing in this video that looks like Satan is Copeland's face.
Clearly Satan was never bound or he got unbound. Copeland returned in December 2020 invoking a mighty wind to blow away COVID-19. At 1:00 in he tells Satan to fall on his face, then laughs like he himself has just realized the absurdity of the whole thing.
The only thing in this video that looks like Satan is Copeland's face.
The only thing in this video that looks like Satan is Copeland's face.
