Are miracles a necessary part of the the gospel?

[ResidentAlien]

One view says miracles were performed to give credibility to the good news of Christ; and to testify that His apostles had His authority.

Increasingly however, many have started teaching that miracles are integral to the gospel itself. In other words, if there are no miracles there is no gospel. Those who deny miracles are teaching a false gospel.

For example, Charles Fox Parham, in A Voice Crying in the Wilderness, writes: "The healing of the sick is as much part of the gospel as telling them of Heaven."—pg. 46

And: " You, dear friends, who are neglecting to teach, preach, and give of your substance to the spread of this gospel—attended with signs, wonders, mighty deeds, divers miracles and the gifts of the Holy Ghost—are in danger of standing in utter condemnation before the judgment bar of God."—Ibid.

Another example is from The Essential Guide to Healing by Bill Johnson and Randy Clark. Clark writes: "For cessationists, the gifts of healing and the working of miracles no longer exist in the sense of someone having these gifts. Their argument is based on their belief that healings and miracles were given to prove correct doctrine and to vindicate the apostles’ ministry as writers of Scripture. If healings and miracles could still happen, then the canon of Scripture would not be closed and new doctrines could be given. This is the basis of cessationism.

The problem with this position is that miracles were not meant primarily as evidence of correct doctrine. Instead they were part of the Gospel, the good news that the Kingdom of God was at hand, that in Jesus’ ministry the Kingdom had been inaugurated and would continue until it was consummated in His Second Coming."—pg. 99

So how 'bout it: Are miraculous signs as much a necessary part of the gospel itself as Jesus dying for our sins and rising from the dead? If we don't preach the continuation of miracles are we preaching a false gospel?

 

[studentoftheword]

Thread Title ------Are miracles a necessary part of the the gospel?

I say a big Yes -----The Miracles that Jesus and His Disciples preformed were to make unbelievers --believe in who Jesus was ---and to Glorify God ----many because of the Miracles preformed came to be believers in Jesus being the Messiah and became loyal followers and Disciples of Him which were needed to get the Gospel of the Good News preached to all people -----

Without the Miracles many would have not Believed that Jesus was the sent Messiah ---and the Spreading of the Gospel of the Good News would have not been as impactfull as it was with the Miracles ----

Those who deny miracles are teaching a false gospel.

I say a definite Yes to that ---if you deny the miracles ----you deny the whole of God's word -----you can't believe one part of the Bible and deny another part -----Jesus said your either with me or against me ----there is no middle road -----Jesus is the Word ---so if you deny the Miracles you deny Jesus ----and anyone who teaches that is definitely teaching or preaching a False Gospel ------

And there is a grave warning for preaching a different Gospel -----

NOTICE : ---one thing is said twice in this context of Scripture ---so it is important to get -----


Galatians 1:6-9 NIV

No Other Gospel
6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!

9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!

 

[Blain]

I think they were back then when the gospel being preached was at it's starting point but for today no

 

[Charlie24]

One view says miracles were performed to give credibility to the good news of Christ; and to testify that His apostles had His authority.

Increasingly however, many have started teaching that miracles are integral to the gospel itself. In other words, if there are no miracles there is no gospel. Those who deny miracles are teaching a false gospel.

For example, Charles Fox Parham, in A Voice Crying in the Wilderness, writes: "The healing of the sick is as much part of the gospel as telling them of Heaven."—pg. 46

And: " You, dear friends, who are neglecting to teach, preach, and give of your substance to the spread of this gospel—attended with signs, wonders, mighty deeds, divers miracles and the gifts of the Holy Ghost—are in danger of standing in utter condemnation before the judgment bar of God."—Ibid.

Another example is from The Essential Guide to Healing by Bill Johnson and Randy Clark. Clark writes: "For cessationists, the gifts of healing and the working of miracles no longer exist in the sense of someone having these gifts. Their argument is based on their belief that healings and miracles were given to prove correct doctrine and to vindicate the apostles’ ministry as writers of Scripture. If healings and miracles could still happen, then the canon of Scripture would not be closed and new doctrines could be given. This is the basis of cessationism.

The problem with this position is that miracles were not meant primarily as evidence of correct doctrine. Instead they were part of the Gospel, the good news that the Kingdom of God was at hand, that in Jesus’ ministry the Kingdom had been inaugurated and would continue until it was consummated in His Second Coming."—pg. 99

So how 'bout it: Are miraculous signs as much a necessary part of the gospel itself as Jesus dying for our sins and rising from the dead? If we don't preach the continuation of miracles are we preaching a false gospel?

I don't remember Paul mentioning any miracles (per se) as a part of the Gospel that he preached in 1 Cor. 15:1-11 to the Corinthian Church.

Preaching a false Gospel is a very serious accusation, to claim this by the fact of miracles not being present is not scriptural.

It seems to me there are some folks out there who would add to the Gospel that Paul preached.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

One view says miracles were performed to give credibility to the good news of Christ; and to testify that His apostles had His authority.

Increasingly however, many have started teaching that miracles are integral to the gospel itself. In other words, if there are no miracles there is no gospel. Those who deny miracles are teaching a false gospel.

For example, Charles Fox Parham, in A Voice Crying in the Wilderness, writes: "The healing of the sick is as much part of the gospel as telling them of Heaven."—pg. 46

And: " You, dear friends, who are neglecting to teach, preach, and give of your substance to the spread of this gospel—attended with signs, wonders, mighty deeds, divers miracles and the gifts of the Holy Ghost—are in danger of standing in utter condemnation before the judgment bar of God."—Ibid.

Another example is from The Essential Guide to Healing by Bill Johnson and Randy Clark. Clark writes: "For cessationists, the gifts of healing and the working of miracles no longer exist in the sense of someone having these gifts. Their argument is based on their belief that healings and miracles were given to prove correct doctrine and to vindicate the apostles’ ministry as writers of Scripture. If healings and miracles could still happen, then the canon of Scripture would not be closed and new doctrines could be given. This is the basis of cessationism.

The problem with this position is that miracles were not meant primarily as evidence of correct doctrine. Instead they were part of the Gospel, the good news that the Kingdom of God was at hand, that in Jesus’ ministry the Kingdom had been inaugurated and would continue until it was consummated in His Second Coming."—pg. 99

So how 'bout it: Are miraculous signs as much a necessary part of the gospel itself as Jesus dying for our sins and rising from the dead? If we don't preach the continuation of miracles are we preaching a false gospel?

imagine how much more staying power his words had because of what the people saw him accomplish he raised the dead drove our demons walked on water commanded the wind and sea and it obeyed him and there were witnesses who saw

those were mostly put to death because they refused to deny his truth what I’m saying is miracles re another true witness and a powerful one of the gospel and who Jesus really is

I guess I’m speaking from here

So we have Christ who first preached the gospel , the apostles and disciples who heard and saw him and then another witness also was the miracles and still is a witness of Christ and the power of his name

“Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.

For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward; How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord,

and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:1-4‬ ‭

imagine a witness of Gods glory and how powerful it would impact us if we watched a dead man be raised to life by his word alone

all of it comes down to a witness that Christs word is salvation and will never change or be left void or without the effect of salvstion which he promised

 

[CS1]

Yes healings and signs & wonders are confirmation of the gospel message.

Salvation saved = SOZO = which is saved, healed & delivered Throgu Jesus .

The only reason why they are done, which I have asked some others here who where also on the tongues thread.

Here is the reason Acts 1:8 and Acts 4:33



"You shall receive power to be my witnesses," Jesus said this after HE was raised from the dead we Testify HE is alive signs and wonder is the proof God is with US.

33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all

This is the reason To be a witness that Jesus who we serve is alive!!!!

Budda, Confucius, Scientology, or staring at the third eyeball denying that you exist to receive Nervana in a transmediation state.


NONE of them heal or save today BUT Jesus does !!!

The Holy Spirit helps us TESTIFY ON this, our Risen Lord. HE will stand alone and all other gods and holy men will bow to HIM and call HIm LORD!!!
He still can heal today and does he saves today and set people free IF you are not seeing people saved and healed and set free in your church you are in a dead one. Find one who will stand for the whole word of God and will not apologize and say loud and clear Jesus Christ is the only way and testify as to why you believe. Those who will pray all night and seek God on your behalf or on your loved ones for salvation.

 

[Aerials1978]

I think they were back then when the gospel being preached was at it's starting point but for today no

Agreed. I do believe that there were certain dispensations when God did use miracles(The exodus, Christs ministry and resurrection, the Acts of the Apostles) according to His plan. We now have the full word of God(What He has revealed to humans) and miracles in the Biblical sense are not as prevalent. Of course I could be wrong.

 

[User00]

The word of God is a miracle and it is a living word the more you read the more divine it is itself
And having faith and believing is a different hearing and seeing then that of human understanding
Theres a verse about how you should not test God to perform miracles for "proof" or anything like that, But I can't remember the verse
I might be thinking of these verses when the devils testing him
5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

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12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.


5 And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.
2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.
9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.
10 And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.
11 Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.
12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.
13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand and were choked in the sea.
14 And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done.
15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
16 And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine.
17 And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts.
18 And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him.
19 Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee.
20 And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel.

 

[User00]

The word of God is a miracle and it is a living word the more you read the more divine it is itself
And having faith and believing is a different hearing and seeing then that of human understanding
Theres a verse about how you should not test God to perform miracles for "proof" or anything like that, But I can't remember the verse
I might be thinking of these verses when the devils testing him
5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

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12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.


5 And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.
2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.
9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.
10 And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.
11 Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.
12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.
13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand and were choked in the sea.
14 And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done.
15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
16 And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine.
17 And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts.
18 And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him.
19 Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee.
20 And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel.

sorry the wink was an accident in the post


21 And when Jesus was passed over again by ship unto the other side, much people gathered unto him: and he was nigh unto the sea.
22 And, behold, there cometh one of the rulers of the synagogue, Jairus by name; and when he saw him, he fell at his feet,
23 And besought him greatly, saying, My little daughter lieth at the point of death: I pray thee, come and lay thy hands on her, that she may be healed; and she shall live.
24 And Jesus went with him; and much people followed him, and thronged him.
25 And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years,
26 And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse,
27 When she had heard of Jesus, came in the press behind, and touched his garment.
28 For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole.
29 And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of that plague.
30 And Jesus, immediately knowing in himself that virtue had gone out of him, turned him about in the press, and said, Who touched my clothes?
31 And his disciples said unto him, Thou seest the multitude thronging thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me?
32 And he looked round about to see her that had done this thing.
33 But the woman fearing and trembling, knowing what was done in her, came and fell down before him, and told him all the truth.
34 And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.
35 While he yet spake, there came from the ruler of the synagogue's house certain which said, Thy daughter is dead: why troublest thou the Master any further?
36 As soon as Jesus heard the word that was spoken, he saith unto the ruler of the synagogue, Be not afraid, only believe.
37 And he suffered no man to follow him, save Peter, and James, and John the brother of James.
38 And he cometh to the house of the ruler of the synagogue, and seeth the tumult, and them that wept and wailed greatly.
39 And when he was come in, he saith unto them, Why make ye this ado, and weep? the damsel is not dead, but sleepeth.
40 And they laughed him to scorn. But when he had put them all out, he taketh the father and the mother of the damsel, and them that were with him, and entereth in where the damsel was lying.
41 And he took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha cumi; which is, being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise.
42 And straightway the damsel arose, and walked; for she was of the age of twelve years. And they were astonished with a great astonishment.
43 And he charged them straitly that no man should know it; and commanded that something should be given her to eat.

Jesus will make anyone whole who seeks and believes and has faith in him
These are sufficent miracles to me
Sometimes God blesses me and gives me more miracles when I didnt expect or ask
This is why I wish more people would seek him and pray so that they may healed and blessed

 

[Heaven_Bound]

How can people expect to preach, testify to an Almighty God and Creator of the Universe, but they don't have enough Faith towards that same God that God is not able to reveal Himself through God's Works like Healing, Miracles, things that make you say that can only be of/from God?

If someone had no real experience witnessing the Power of God, how can that person be a credible Witness for God? Basically, you are getting hot air but still taught to pay your 10% to a God that is ineffective. And that is why the term for such Denominations and Preaching/Teaching has become "the DEAD in Christ shall rise first." Because that Atmosphere is literally Spiritually Dead.

 

[JaumeJ]

How can people expect to preach, testify to an Almighty God and Creator of the Universe, but they don't have enough Faith towards that same God that God is not able to reveal Himself through God's Works like Healing, Miracles, things that make you say that can only be of/from God?

If someone had no real experience witnessing the Power of God, how can that person be a credible Witness for God? Basically, you are getting hot air but still taught to pay your 10% to a God that is ineffective. And that is why the term for such Denominations and Preaching/Teaching has become "the DEAD in Christ shall rise first." Because that Atmosphere is literally Spiritually Dead.

I understand implicitely what you are saying, but keep in mind, all who have experienced the infilling of thwe Holy Spirit are given ample motivation to witness.
Personally, I have experienced several times being used as an instrument of our Father's works, but I do not expect all to have my same experience. God bless you. Perhaps you had all I have posted in mind, if so, sorry.

 

[p_rehbein]

They were a necessary part of the Ministry of Jesus when He walked among men in the form of man. IMO, they are still relevent for different reasons:

Signs
Testimony
Faith Building

and such

 

[jb]

Luke 4v18,19: "The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the broken hearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed; To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord." (with Isaiah 61v1,2)

Matt 8v16,17: "When evening had come, they brought to Him many who were demon-possessed. And He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were sick, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying: "He Himself took our infirmities And bore our sicknesses." (with Isaiah 53v4)

The gospel message is NOT only forgiveness of sin, but healing for spirit, soul and body!

Indeed, healing for the body, mind and emotions FLOWS from the Cross!

And yes, if you don't preach and teach healing and actually seek the Lord Jesus for healing to those who need it whom you preach to, you are certainly NOT fulfilling the Lord's command to preach the gospel to every creature, as the early Church did! Acts 2v40-47, Mark 16v15-20.

We need to examine our experience in the light of the Scriptures, and NOT try to make our limited experience fit the Scriptures by twisting them!

 

[ResidentAlien]

you can't believe one part of the Bible and deny another part

I agree. But what if your belief is based on misunderstanding? Isn't understanding the truth more important than believing what we want to believe?

 

[ResidentAlien]

Paul said in 1 Corinthians 2:1-5: "And I, brothers, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom, proclaiming to you the testimony of God. For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. And I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling. And my message and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, in order that your faith might not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."

He doesn't say anything about miracles here. The Corinthians were saved by faith after hearing the word preached. God demonstrated His power by revealing the truth to them through the Spirit.

He doesn't say they had faith because of the signs he performed. No, he says they believe the word. In fact he was with them "in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling"; not working signs and wonders.

 

[ResidentAlien]

imagine how much more staying power his words had because of what the people saw him accomplish he raised the dead drove our demons walked on water commanded the wind and sea and it obeyed him and there were witnesses who saw

those were mostly put to death because they refused to deny his truth what I’m saying is miracles re another true witness and a powerful one of the gospel and who Jesus really is

I guess I’m speaking from here

So we have Christ who first preached the gospel , the apostles and disciples who heard and saw him and then another witness also was the miracles and still is a witness of Christ and the power of his name

“Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.

For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward; How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord,

and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:1-4‬ ‭

imagine a witness of Gods glory and how powerful it would impact us if we watched a dead man be raised to life by his word alone

all of it comes down to a witness that Christs word is salvation and will never change or be left void or without the effect of salvstion which he promised

I agree signs and wonders sometimes accompanied the preaching of the gospel. However, the question is: If there are no signs and wonders is it the true gospel? If I preach the gospel of Christ and Him crucified, but there are no signs and wonders involved, and people believe and call on the Lord, is their salvation genuine. Is the message of Christ and Him crucified enough?

Hebrews 2:1-4 is talking about things that had previously happened. Are there any verses in Hebrews that exhort the listeners to seek signs and wonders more earnestly? What I see is exhortation to continue in the faith in Christ, not miracles.

 

[ResidentAlien]

If someone had no real experience witnessing the Power of God, how can that person be a credible Witness for God?

The question isn't whether someone's a credible witness for God or not. The question is: Is God credible? Can He reveal the truth by the Spirit in the preaching of Christ and Him crucified? Or is the simple truth insufficient? Are miracles also necessary?

There's no record of miracles being performed when the Etheopian eunuch believed. God revealed the truth to him through Philip's explanation of the scriptures. Did the eunuch receive an insufficient gospel? Was his belief and baptism in vain?

 

[Aaron56]

You mean, aside from the virgin birth and the resurrection from the dead?

The "insufficient gospel" is the gospel of going to heaven when you die.

The gospel of God is about the economy of the kingdom of the Son coming into the earth through mere men and women.

 

[Blain]

I think a more accurate question would be are miracles for today can they still happen for one who has faith? This is an area I myself am trying to grow more in I have always believed in miracles not because I have seen or experienced them but because of what I have come to know of God many fake miracles denying the power of the holy spirit and resorting to pretending but I want the real thing I want to see exactly what faith can do

I have severely damaged eyes and if I could have any miracle it would be to have them healed, my entire faith seems to have revolved around sight I wanted to see with his eyes from the beginning I take into great account about how perception works both in the human mind and how it affects what we see and believe I even seemingly prophesied my own demise saying to a pastor once how if I lost my eye sight it wouldn't matter because it isn't these eyes I want to see through.

Looking back seeing how sight has been a major part of my relationship with him I believe that I lost my eyes so that I would be a testimony of his power and what can happen when one has faith, my eyes will be healed and I will be a testimony i don't know how I know this I just do, but miracles being a requirement for salvation is simply not true because I have never seen one yet when I was saved I felt his spirit inside me and all around me like a combination of life power and fire it is sensation that I never felt and haven't since but when I was saved I fell madly in love with him even to this day my heart aches for him it hungers for him I crave that deeper intimacy with every fiber of my being only one who is saved would know this torture of longing for him so badly only being fed enough to not starve yet be hungry for more

 

[Heaven_Bound]

The question isn't whether someone's a credible witness for God or not. The question is: Is God credible? Can He reveal the truth by the Spirit in the preaching of Christ and Him crucified? Or is the simple truth insufficient? Are miracles also necessary?

There's no record of miracles being performed when the Etheopian eunuch believed. God revealed the truth to him through Philip's explanation of the scriptures. Did the eunuch receive an insufficient gospel? Was his belief and baptism in vain?

A man who was running beside his chariot and just poofs after the Eunich's baptism seems rather miraculous to me.