If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?
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Do we become citizens of the Kingdom of God when we perceive like JESUS using the Reborn Holy Image that He created?
i think i see a connection to what Abraham perceived (Faith).
GOD knew what this test was going to be about and saw that Abraham would have passed it. After JESUS was here, how are people claiming to have the same Faith as Abraham without acknowledging The MESSIAH?
No one seems to get what it takes to uphold the Reborn Kingdom Image. It’s about upholding your status as a Child of GOD by perceiving reality how JESUS wants us to. We have to reject worldliness and remain on the path of SALVATION. We have to be an inviting Temple for GOD’S Presence (Oil/HOLY SPIRIT). Stop physically sinning!
i think i see a connection to what Abraham perceived (Faith).
GOD knew what this test was going to be about and saw that Abraham would have passed it. After JESUS was here, how are people claiming to have the same Faith as Abraham without acknowledging The MESSIAH?
No one seems to get what it takes to uphold the Reborn Kingdom Image. It’s about upholding your status as a Child of GOD by perceiving reality how JESUS wants us to. We have to reject worldliness and remain on the path of SALVATION. We have to be an inviting Temple for GOD’S Presence (Oil/HOLY SPIRIT). Stop physically sinning!
1 John 2:15–17
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
i have to wonder, if you are blind to The Kingdom being now ...are you using your Reborn Image to see?
Colossians 1:13
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
No one said remaining on the Narrow Path of The Kingdom is easy. You either fit into the world with your self-idolatry ...or you bow to your King in The Kingdom of GOD.Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
The Gift is having the Option to Choose SALVATION (The Kingdom) in this test if we stop eating from the tree of knowledge.
Do you read Adam and Eve as literal so that you can have an excuse? You had your own first sin, guess who you represent? You need someone that was able to live without sin in His Blood for you to be Saved and be someone GOD'S Presence can be welcomed in.
OPEN THE DOOR.
He had to defeat death without sin in His Blood for us to be able to use His Image.
We use The SAVIOR via being Reborn into His Image. It is how we enter His Kingdom.
OPEN THE DOOR.
He had to defeat death without sin in His Blood for us to be able to use His Image.
We use The SAVIOR via being Reborn into His Image. It is how we enter His Kingdom.
GOD'S Love doesn't Save you ...His Presence does.
Get Reborn into His Kingdom.
His Presence is in the Children that have His Image. GOD dwells among us in the Pillars of The Kingdom.
1 Peter 2:4-6
To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
Get Reborn into His Kingdom.
His Presence is in the Children that have His Image. GOD dwells among us in the Pillars of The Kingdom.
1 Peter 2:4-6
To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
You want JESUS physically Reigning on David's Throne?
Acts 2:29-36
Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Acts 2:29-36
Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
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amen alot of folks don’t see that part they are waiting for something else.
“The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
The Lord shall send the rod of thy strength out of Sion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth. The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.”
Psalm 110:1-5 KJV
“Let thy hand be upon the man of thy right hand, upon the son of man whom thou madest strong for thyself. So will not we go back from thee: quicken us, and we will call upon thy name. Turn us again, O Lord God of hosts, cause thy face to shine; and we shall be saved.”
Psalm 80:17-19 KJV
“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
John 6:63 KJV
“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”
John 18:36
“And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.”
Acts 7:56 KJV
“I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.”
Daniel 7:13-14 KJV
“And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth…,,,
Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.”
Revelation 5:6, 9-12
“For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.”
2 Corinthians 4:6 KJV
“The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
The Lord shall send the rod of thy strength out of Sion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth. The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.”
Psalm 110:1-5 KJV
“Let thy hand be upon the man of thy right hand, upon the son of man whom thou madest strong for thyself. So will not we go back from thee: quicken us, and we will call upon thy name. Turn us again, O Lord God of hosts, cause thy face to shine; and we shall be saved.”
Psalm 80:17-19 KJV
“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
John 6:63 KJV
“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”
John 18:36
“And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.”
Acts 7:56 KJV
“I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.”
Daniel 7:13-14 KJV
“And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth…,,,
Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.”
Revelation 5:6, 9-12
“For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.”
2 Corinthians 4:6 KJV
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Premills have a big ...big problem if this is saying JESUS is Israel:
Isaiah 49:3
And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.
See the surrounding Scripture to understand that It is:
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/isa/49/3/s_728003
Isaiah 49:3
And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.
See the surrounding Scripture to understand that It is:
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/isa/49/3/s_728003
G.K. Beale, this dude is someone you need to look into.
i'm told this is an amazing book uncovering The OT in the NT.
https://www.amazon.com/Commentary-N...2129a&pd_rd_wg=4hCpN&pd_rd_i=0801026938&psc=1
He summarizes a different book that i think you will be interested in here:
Psalm 78:69
And he built his sanctuary like high palaces, like the earth which he hath established for ever.
Eden and The Garden was the first Temple with Adam as the first priest. Three sections. Noah's Ark, was like the second Temple.
The Garden of Eden is referred to as Land of Israel:
Joel 2:3
A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
Isaiah 51:3
For the LORD shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the LORD; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.
Ezekiel 36:35
And they shall say, This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden; and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are become fenced, and are inhabited.
The Physical Temple is now only a shadow to The Real Temple.
JESUS' Resurrection was The New Creation, The Reborn Image, and The Messianic Kingdom.
2 Corinthians 6:16
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
i'm told this is an amazing book uncovering The OT in the NT.
https://www.amazon.com/Commentary-N...2129a&pd_rd_wg=4hCpN&pd_rd_i=0801026938&psc=1
He summarizes a different book that i think you will be interested in here:
Psalm 78:69
And he built his sanctuary like high palaces, like the earth which he hath established for ever.
Eden and The Garden was the first Temple with Adam as the first priest. Three sections. Noah's Ark, was like the second Temple.
The Garden of Eden is referred to as Land of Israel:
Joel 2:3
A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
Isaiah 51:3
For the LORD shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the LORD; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.
Ezekiel 36:35
And they shall say, This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden; and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are become fenced, and are inhabited.
The Physical Temple is now only a shadow to The Real Temple.
JESUS' Resurrection was The New Creation, The Reborn Image, and The Messianic Kingdom.
2 Corinthians 6:16
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
YOu say this, yet Adam and Eve sinned against God with all the evidence. Judas sinned, Ananias and Sapphira sinned.
People have proof all over the place, and still sin.
Face it, Jesus is not ruling on this earth right now. Jesus does have all authority in heaven and earth. But anyone with any of his senses working can see, the devil is deceiving the earth and the world is in wickedness.
That is not ruling with a rod of iron.
People have proof all over the place, and still sin.
Face it, Jesus is not ruling on this earth right now. Jesus does have all authority in heaven and earth. But anyone with any of his senses working can see, the devil is deceiving the earth and the world is in wickedness.
That is not ruling with a rod of iron.
I haven't read all 67 pages but I would like to ask the amillennialists present to go through Revelation 20, which is something their position makes difficult to do.
For reasons such as:
-Spiritualizing the first resurrection when it says "rest of the dead" did not live until after 1000 years (Meaning, after the church age, in amill view) which means the lost receive this same resurrection as well, but later. This is a huge blunder.
-Satan is clearly presently deceiving all the nations and their explanation is weak which is usually that he is just deceiving them in general as in Rev 12, but not deceiving them to the final battle Gog and Magog.
-It is not the plain reading of the text as Jesus has returned in Revelation 19 after which satan is bound, original Bible had no chapters and verses
For reasons such as:
-Spiritualizing the first resurrection when it says "rest of the dead" did not live until after 1000 years (Meaning, after the church age, in amill view) which means the lost receive this same resurrection as well, but later. This is a huge blunder.
-Satan is clearly presently deceiving all the nations and their explanation is weak which is usually that he is just deceiving them in general as in Rev 12, but not deceiving them to the final battle Gog and Magog.
-It is not the plain reading of the text as Jesus has returned in Revelation 19 after which satan is bound, original Bible had no chapters and verses