John 14:12 - Was Christ The Mortal Vessel Of God In A Way? Did Bernard Of Clairvaux figure this out?

[Kafziel]

John 14:12, KJV : "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

So does that mean that anyone can accept God onto their body and do great works? I mean that doesn't interfere with free will really, it's still your choice to do it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_of_Clairvaux

This saint who lived around 1100s was able to evoke minor miracles and was an extremely pious man.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

John 14:12, KJV : "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

So does that mean that anyone can accept God onto their body and do great works? I mean that doesn't interfere with free will really, it's still your choice to do it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_of_Clairvaux

This saint who lived around 1100s was able to evoke minor miracles and was an extremely pious man.

something I found interesting is even Jesus ran into issues doing miracles when the people had no faith

“And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:58‬ ‭

it obviously wasn’t Jesus lack of faith but I think it shows that miracles are done for a specific purpose. In the at ot glorifies the name of our God and savior Jesus Christ and secures solid belief in believers

imagine how hard it was to disbelieve Jesus en he was going around amazing everyone doing these unheard of things . Or Paul and Peter doing miracles as they preached of Christ and the gospel always in his name

I think that miracles are done by God in places and positions where it’s going to bear fruit in believers. And are a product of herring believing and spreading the truth

 

[Kafziel]

something I found interesting is even Jesus ran into issues doing miracles when the people had no faith

“And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:58‬ ‭

it obviously wasn’t Jesus lack of faith but I think it shows that miracles are done for a specific purpose. In the at ot glorifies the name of our God and savior Jesus Christ and secures solid belief in believers

imagine how hard it was to disbelieve Jesus en he was going around amazing everyone doing these unheard of things . Or Paul and Peter doing miracles as they preached of Christ and the gospel always in his name

I think that miracles are done by God in places and positions where it’s going to bear fruit in believers. And are a product of herring believing and spreading the truth

That is immensely interesting. I've studied esoteric stuff far and wide and that matches up with some things I found. I'll have to give the bible a full read, so far I've only read bits and pieces. It's a long book after all, and I can be quite lazy.

 

[Kafziel]

something I found interesting is even Jesus ran into issues doing miracles when the people had no faith

“And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:58‬ ‭

it obviously wasn’t Jesus lack of faith but I think it shows that miracles are done for a specific purpose. In the at ot glorifies the name of our God and savior Jesus Christ and secures solid belief in believers

imagine how hard it was to disbelieve Jesus en he was going around amazing everyone doing these unheard of things . Or Paul and Peter doing miracles as they preached of Christ and the gospel always in his name

I think that miracles are done by God in places and positions where it’s going to bear fruit in believers. And are a product of herring believing and spreading the truth

Think I read some of the new testament but that was years ago and I don't think I finished it all. I didn't own the book, so I had to give it back. It's hard to remember even that much book though.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

That is immensely interesting. I've studied esoteric stuff far and wide and that matches up with some things I found. I'll have to give the bible a full read, so far I've only read bits and pieces. It's a long book after all, and I can be quite lazy.

yeah I find it has a lot of words but the message it carries from beginning to end is repetitive and comprehensive. It sort of highlights a million arrows all
Pointing to Jesus and his Gospel. Even what’s written long before and after seems to all point to the crown jewel and majesty of the Bible being Jesus Christ and his gospel

I think we all should be learning always and willing to let it teach us new things that’s sort of my own personal view can read the entire Bible ten times and then the next day one might just find a new thing we never knew was there

it seems almost as if as we learn God us who is teaching and allowing us to understand but never more than we’re able to live up to

I like coming here and just reading what others have said sometimes it creates new ways of thinking that I may not have thought of before

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Think I read some of the new testament but that was years ago and I don't think I finished it all. I didn't own the book, so I had to give it back. It's hard to remember even that much book though.

yeah definately it’s sort of different than any other book on earth in that we can read the words a hundred times d then when it’s meant to stick it will or when it’s meant to pop out and make a point to us it will

the more we learn the more accountability comes but also the more faith and strength

God bless you in your studies and prayers in Christ Jesus name

 

[Veridican]

WE HUNG JESUS ON A CROSS. Okay? Then we "progressed" with a vile satanic Church until the Age of Reason, and then scientism took over.

We never trained in faith. We have a little shriveled raisin of faith in our minds. We can't do anything with prayer these days. But we could have. We should have made Jesus Christ the king. He would have lived forever, even until today. And that would have given us all the faith to walk on water if we wanted to.

Think about it: There were other civilizations--before Adam and Eve. In some way they were capable of moving stones we can't move today if we wanted to. You don't think they did that with machines do you? They died out. Long before God created man, they died out, but they had something that allowed them to move mountains. I think they understood "faith."

Thank you for reading.

 

[p_rehbein]

John 14:12, KJV : "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

So does that mean that anyone can accept God onto their body and do great works? I mean that doesn't interfere with free will really, it's still your choice to do it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_of_Clairvaux

This saint who lived around 1100s was able to evoke minor miracles and was an extremely pious man.

Enlighten us:

Do you believe Jesus is God the Son?

Are you Catholic?

 

[Kafziel]

Enlighten us:

Do you believe Jesus is God the Son?

Are you Catholic?

I'm confused on matters of faith lately. I study the book sometimes, certain parts. I believe Jesus took God onto himself and his soul was God. I am less certain about any virgin birth, but strange things happen where God is involved. So you could say in a way that he was the son of God.

 

[Dino246]

I'm confused on matters of faith lately. I study the book sometimes, certain parts. I believe Jesus took God onto himself and his soul was God. I am less certain about any virgin birth, but strange things happen where God is involved. So you could say in a way that he was the son of God.

It’s understandable that you are uncertain about these matters. I would encourage you to keep investigating until you are immersed in the truth.

Jesus is not merely a mortal, but is and was God incarnate. The Bible is reasonably clear on this matter, but it does take a bit of effort to locate the relevant details.