How much longer till the US collapses?

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When do you think the US will collapse?

  • 2021 we'll see the Military take over control, Biden's dementia and illegitimacy is on full display

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Next 4 months, I believe the US cannot continue with this regime past Passover

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • Soon, maybe in a year, who knows

    Votes: 7 43.8%
  • What are you talking about? Stop fear mongering.

    Votes: 7 43.8%

  • Total voters
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ZNP

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When Biden responded to the guy who said "Let's go Brandon" with "I agree, Let's go Brandon" his dementia is on full display to the whole world. It is too dangerous to continue trying to pretend otherwise. Even with the most favorable media doing the polling his poll numbers are atrocious and Kamala's are even worse. Christmas was chaos with thousands of flights cancelled and with people in various cities unable to get tested. The situation will only get worse as his prediction that "we are all gonna die" this winter will not age well.
 

ZNP

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The top three states for people leaving in 2021 was California, NY and Illinois. I suspect this is why Chicago is broke and bouncing paychecks. I suspect NY and California must also be on the brink of financial collapse. Think of all the taxpayers who have left their jobs and are leaving the state.
 
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RichMan

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It is not a question of if, but when.
What I would like to know is what have you done to prepare?
 

ZNP

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It is not a question of if, but when.
What I would like to know is what have you done to prepare?
1. I read and pray the Bible every day.

2. I have received Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

3. I try to speak up everyday according to the word that we overcome by the blood of the lamb and by the word of our testimony.

4. We are in the process of selling our house in NYC and moving to a place more welcoming of the unvaxxed and a place that still supports the 2nd amendment. I don't own a gun but I have to believe the reason they are so desperate to take the guns away is because they know they can't overrun the country if everyone is armed.

5. I am keeping a very close eye on this government, don't trust them and think they will try to impose a house to house quarantine on the unvaxxed in NYC. If they do that we will be out of here the minute I hear what is going down. They have already made it a felony to counterfeit a vaccine passport which only makes sense if it is a felony to violate the vaccine mandate. So then if you are mandated to stay in your home it would be a felony to leave. This is the most difficult time of the year to move which is why I think this will be when they do this to restrict those fleeing this tyranny.
 

p_rehbein

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#6
Every time a new President is elected, the losing Party begins this horror trip of world destruction and the end of America!!!!

Republicans and Democrats have been doing this since Lincoln was elected, and possibly longer.

Was not that long ago that we were told that if Obama were elected, America would collapse into ruin. Then we were told that if he were reelected, America would cease to exist.....

Democrats had the same horror predictions if Trump were elected. When Bush Jr. was elected as well......

So far, neither Party has a batting average above .ooo
Much like that guy in California who keeps predicting the date that Jesus will return and the end of the world will arrive......

If it were not so sad, it would be funny
 

soberxp

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Rest assured, the United States will not collapse too soon. If the United States collapses, it will be the beginning of the world war.China will not let the United States collapse too soon, because that will lead to war.But if the United States collapses itself, it's hard to say what will happen.
 
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RichMan

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Every time a new President is elected, the losing Party begins this horror trip of world destruction and the end of America!!!!

Republicans and Democrats have been doing this since Lincoln was elected, and possibly longer.

Was not that long ago that we were told that if Obama were elected, America would collapse into ruin. Then we were told that if he were reelected, America would cease to exist.....

Democrats had the same horror predictions if Trump were elected. When Bush Jr. was elected as well......

So far, neither Party has a batting average above .ooo
Much like that guy in California who keeps predicting the date that Jesus will return and the end of the world will arrive......

If it were not so sad, it would be funny
Both parties and most of the citizens have been contributing to this nations demise for many years.
 

ZNP

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Every time a new President is elected, the losing Party begins this horror trip of world destruction and the end of America!!!!

Republicans and Democrats have been doing this since Lincoln was elected, and possibly longer.

Was not that long ago that we were told that if Obama were elected, America would collapse into ruin. Then we were told that if he were reelected, America would cease to exist.....

Democrats had the same horror predictions if Trump were elected. When Bush Jr. was elected as well......

So far, neither Party has a batting average above .ooo
Much like that guy in California who keeps predicting the date that Jesus will return and the end of the world will arrive......

If it were not so sad, it would be funny
One thing we may not adequately appreciate, when the US government prints money we all pretty much know that is irresponsible and will lead to inflation. This we do appreciate. What we don't appreciate is that since our currency is the world's reserve currency the entire world is affected. That is why we can print huge sums of money and only see relatively small inflation. The entire world is paying the price, not just Americans. However, when we do print money like this we are in effect robbing every single person holding American money. Since most Americans are too stupid to understand that they do it with impunity. However, and this is my point: China holds a whole lot of US debt and they are not too stupid. There are countries all over the world that see what is happening, they didn't vote for these leaders but they will have to pay for their multi trillion dollar packages designed to make themselves rich. The rest of the world hates this.

10% inflation in the US will cause the poor to go without heat, in China it will cause the poor to starve to death. There comes a point where you would rather fight a war than starve to death.
 

ZNP

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Great news!

The IRS is reminding thieves (think of the smash and grab robbers) that they must pay tax on the stolen goods. So even though they allow for shoplifting in California the IRS is saying "hey, don't forget us, we get 40%". :LOL::ROFL: These guys who steal $500 worth of goods and then sell it on the street for $200 only to then learn you owe the IRS $200!

Also drug dealers have to pay taxes as well.

So relax, these 2 million that they have let in across the border, many of whom are cartel members making money in human trafficking and drug trafficking, remember you still have to pay taxes to the IRS. Is this what they mean by "a criminal organization"?

Elections have consequences, stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
 

Gideon300

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When Biden responded to the guy who said "Let's go Brandon" with "I agree, Let's go Brandon" his dementia is on full display to the whole world. It is too dangerous to continue trying to pretend otherwise. Even with the most favorable media doing the polling his poll numbers are atrocious and Kamala's are even worse. Christmas was chaos with thousands of flights cancelled and with people in various cities unable to get tested. The situation will only get worse as his prediction that "we are all gonna die" this winter will not age well.
It will depend on how the church in the USA responds to God withdrawing His blessing. I don't expect collapse in the short term. Americans get the opportunity to remove ungodly administrations every four years. Contrast this with China or North Korea and many other countries.

Americans are their own worst enemies. They find ways to offend God, then find fault with everything and everyone but themselves. God is not mocked. People reap what they sow. A nation likewise. The only thing that keeps the US afloat is its support for Israel. When that goes, America will disintegrate completely.
 

Nehemiah6

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Americans get the opportunity to remove ungodly administrations every four years.
That is all finished now. The elections will all be rigged from here on out. No one has banned the voting machines which can be so easily manipulated. And no one has been prosecuted for election fraud. Every kind of fraudulent activity has now become the norm, and the Democrats are changing the rules so that the fraud becomes permanent.
 

ZNP

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That is all finished now. The elections will all be rigged from here on out. No one has banned the voting machines which can be so easily manipulated. And no one has been prosecuted for election fraud. Every kind of fraudulent activity has now become the norm, and the Democrats are changing the rules so that the fraud becomes permanent.
I would say the situation is fluid, if the Lord wills we will have legitimate elections in the near future, on the other hand if the Lord wills to bring the full wrath of His judgement on this evil Satanic worldly system then that also would be according to His will.
 

ZNP

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It is not a question of if, but when.
What I would like to know is what have you done to prepare?
What do you suggest? consider.gif

1. I read and pray the Bible every day.

2. I have received Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

3. I try to speak up everyday according to the word that we overcome by the blood of the lamb and by the word of our testimony.

4. We are in the process of selling our house in NYC and moving to a place more welcoming of the unvaxxed and a place that still supports the 2nd amendment. I don't own a gun but I have to believe the reason they are so desperate to take the guns away is because they know they can't overrun the country if everyone is armed.

5. I am keeping a very close eye on this government, don't trust them and think they will try to impose a house to house quarantine on the unvaxxed in NYC. If they do that we will be out of here the minute I hear what is going down. They have already made it a felony to counterfeit a vaccine passport which only makes sense if it is a felony to violate the vaccine mandate. So then if you are mandated to stay in your home it would be a felony to leave. This is the most difficult time of the year to move which is why I think this will be when they do this to restrict those fleeing this tyranny.
I suggest Texas or Florida or my Great State of Mississippi. That said, there won't be any safe place, ultimately. The United States has to decline for the Beast to rise to power. The decline started after WWII, but it is progressing faster and faster--like birth pains, as Jesus said. Now is the time to watch and stay in fellowship with other end-times survivors. Those are the ones who heed the warnings and head for the hills when the abomination that causes desolation is revealed.

Now, my question is this: What's the abomination that causes desolation. Because that's the trigger time . runforhills.gif
 

ZNP

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I suggest Texas or Florida or my Great State of Mississippi. That said, there won't be any safe place, ultimately. The United States has to decline for the Beast to rise to power. The decline started after WWII, but it is progressing faster and faster--like birth pains, as Jesus said. Now is the time to watch and stay in fellowship with other end-times survivors. Those are the ones who heed the warnings and head for the hills when the abomination that causes desolation is revealed.

Now, my question is this: What's the abomination that causes desolation. Because that's the trigger time . View attachment 234595
It was 1260 years from 574 BC at the time of Daniel that we came to 686 AD when they built the Dome of the Rock. I think that is clearly a reference to the abomination that makes desolate.

I also think the OT references to "the Assyrian" is a reference to the Antichrist.

From 686 AD it is 1260 years to 1946 and the Nuremberg trial (confirming a prophecy in the book of Esther).

From 686 AD it is 1335 years to 2021 (we are not on the Gregorian calendar, we are on the Hebrew Calendar, this year will be over April 2)
 
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RichMan

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It is not a question of if, but when.
What I would like to know is what have you done to prepare?
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First, prepare spiritually, next prepare mentally, and thirdly, prepare physically.

Spiritually, get in complete fellowship with God. Put the things of this world away.
Be a good soldier for the Lord.

Mentally, understand that is will be very difficult. There will be suffering. God's will will be done.

Physically, get out of the cities. As far away as possible. If possible, get off grid. Get your body as strong and healthy as possible. Store as much non perishable food as possible and the means to cook it. Gain the skills needed to live without all the conveniences we take for granted.

Pray and do as Zephaniah 2:3 states.
 

JTB

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The left deceives the world, the right deceives believers.

Collapse is only a matter of time.
 

arthurfleminger

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You ask, How much longer before the USA collapses? You know that the media is very adept at scaring the sheeple of the public and it appears you are one of those sheeple. I'm getting on in years and I guarantee you that the country has been much more divided than it is today. In 1968 our cities were rioting and literally on fire, burning to the ground. The Viet Nam war was raging and the youth of the country rebelled against the USA. Nixon, Agnew, and basically the whole upper echelon of the US government had to resign. Blacks couldn't vote in the South, racism was much worse than today. The John Birch society and KKK were running rampant. The situation was much worse in that period than they are today. Unfortunately, the press/media is very good at controlling much of the public.

The same is being said of the world, how much longer before society itself collapses? The media points out everything that's going wrong in the world, fear mongering. But, personally I'm an optimist and I'll tell you why. In my grandfather's day WWI was raging. Millions were killed in stinking trench warfare, rat infested trenches, gas warfare, charging into machine gun fire. Right after WWI ended the entire world was devastated by the Spanish Flu, it could kill you in a day and it killed 50 million at a time when the world's population was much less than today. That would be like killing 500 million today.

After the Spanish Flu, Hitler, his Nazis, the Fascists, and the Japanese made their appearance. WWII was murder and carnage most foul. 63 million lives lost. Europe was destroyed. Millions were murdered in attempts to wipe out races/peoples.....Jews/Poles/Chinese/Koreans...... And, of course Japan got a taste of the Atomic bomb, not once but twice.

Then you had to contend with the rise of the Atheistic/Communistic powers sweeping the world and engaging the world in both a Cold and Hot wars for the next 70 years.
US families were actually building bomb shelters in their back yards and school children were being taught to 'duck and cover' and seek safety from a nuclear blast underneath their school desks. And, of course, you had one stinking war after another, Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan......

But, for the last 20 years, the US and the world have lived in a relatively peaceful and prosperous time. The world will always be faced with problems/wars, etc.... But don't let the media manipulate you into being afraid to face the day. Frankly, compared to the past, things are very good right now. And the people of the world do have the ability to learn from past mistakes.
 
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First, prepare spiritually, next prepare mentally, and thirdly, prepare physically.

Spiritually, get in complete fellowship with God. Put the things of this world away.
Be a good soldier for the Lord.

Mentally, understand that is will be very difficult. There will be suffering. God's will will be done.

Physically, get out of the cities. As far away as possible. If possible, get off grid. Get your body as strong and healthy as possible. Store as much non perishable food as possible and the means to cook it. Gain the skills needed to live without all the conveniences we take for granted.

Pray and do as Zephaniah 2:3 states.
Sounds like good advice.