TONGUES false teaching.

Heaven_Bound · Jan 2, 2022

Before Fire 2 weeks ago

After Fire from Police Drone

Now, look at how close the fire got to my buildings, went through my buildings, but never touched my buildings or animals. Over 400 acres went up in flame from a neighbor's mistake. Plus, 4 people confirmed what I knew running through flames 15 feet tall, black so black could not see, smoke you could not breathe. But God through an Angel that 3 others confirmed themselves was working with me side by side, face to face, and Vanished once we finished when I turned to thank Him for helping me and praying to Yeshua as I had asked of him.

But the Fire and Police Reports show the fire came within 6 inches of my Home and Buildings and it destroyed 250 acres of my top, side, lower fields, but the Police and Firemen said, it's like this fire had a mind of its own and knew it could not touch the home and buildings. I replied, that is what Oil and Anointing every perimeter of my property and placing Angels will do for you. Everyone knew it was a Miracle of God and no way was it anything else. People found God over this. Now, that is a Testimony, but, it's only 1 of 4 encounters with God face to face I can share.

Aidan1 · Jan 2, 2022

kaylagrl said:

Well i understand, " with help of the Holy Spirit" let it open how much he is involved with this.
I think " throuh the Holy Spirit" makes more clear that he alone is the Initiator of the scripture.
And i am not shure if we can speak from inspired men. Is it not more what they wrote is inspired?
But I am shure we mean the same.

kaylagrl · Jan 2, 2022

Aidan1 said:

We do, inspired men, through the Holy Spirit, wrote the Bible. Inspired means inspired of the Holy Spirit.

Heaven_Bound · Jan 2, 2022

TDidymas said:

When Jesus told the pharisees that they should believe His works, He was talking about the obvious miracles He was performing, that is, lame people healed, blind people seeing, deaf people hearing, dead people coming to life. That's a vast difference from what you practice day to day. If what you had was miraculous, it would be a very easy thing to demonstrate. But what I get is that you are afraid that your fig leaves will show that you're really naked in that respect.

It has been proven beyond doubt (for those with an open mind and open heart to the truth) that modern tongues (for the most part) is not miraculous, anyone can do it, it has no language structure, and insufficient vocabulary to convey any intelligible message. So those doing it are deceived, and are taking the Lord's name in vain when they claim it's from God (albeit they are ignorant of that fact).

So if you really want to prove me wrong, then do as I ask, because it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. It's a simple request, although it will take some time and effort. If you love your fellow Christians who need to be corrected, then you'll do whatever it takes. On the other hand, if you love only yourself, you'll continue to be hostile and slanderous.

I'm not asking you to prove you are the Christ, I already know you're not. So comparing what you do to the works of Christ and implying that I should believe you on account of the works you do is nonsense. It's ludicrous because the works you are doing (in this forum) is so far from Christlike, most people with any knowledge and spiritual maturity are shaking their heads. A Christlike work would be to repent from your hostility, and submit to doing what will obviously solve the problem of disunity among believers.

Everyone knows what a witch doctor is and what he does, so stop using exaggerative and slanderous language. Jesus said that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks, and what you're showing in your words is evil, not good. You might think it's good, and you might think you have the Spirit of God, but I'm saying that what you're showing is a different spirit. The apostle Paul wrote that controversies are inevitable, to show who is approved of God and who is not. If you don't start acting like you're approved of God, no one is going to listen to anything you say.

So, as I spoke before, God does heal today, and some of those healings are well documented. But I've yet to see any so-called 'tongues' well documented. I'm asking people who have the gift to well document it, so that it's a clear testimony that God is in it. So far, everyone who has documented it has proven the opposite.

Can you understand that the other side (your side) needs an apologetic argument? It might be settled for you, but it's not for millions of Christians. If you want people to believe that what you do is of God, then shouldn't you make that effort? But if not, then why are you posting in this forum, except just to argue in an endless debate, which the apostle Paul warned Timothy about?

If you continue in the same vein that you're going, the only reasonable conclusion anyone can make is that you fear exposure. Why don't you prove me wrong in this matter, and do what I ask?

I know you logged off, because, anyone who looks at those pictures (1) Satellite and (2) police drone during Investigation can feel the Power of God. But would YOU like the Testimonies of the three people who confirmed my Angel encounter by their own encounter of the Same Angel while helping to stop the fire all on my property?

And just an FYI, this Miracle that several hundred people witnessed from fire fighters to police to neighbors to reporters saw the Power of God intervening for a Modern Day Tongue Speaking, Miracle Believing, Man of God!

DavidTree · Jan 2, 2022

Heaven_Bound said:

Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow.
To them it was revealed that, not to themselves, but to us they were ministering the things which now have been reported to you through those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven
—things which angels desire to look into.

Heaven_Bound · Jan 2, 2022

DavidTree said:

Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow.
To them it was revealed that, not to themselves, but to us they were ministering the things which now have been reported to you through those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven
—things which angels desire to look into.

Praise God!

Aidan1 · Jan 2, 2022

DavidTree said:

Of course, but you know how many Christian denominations and views are there and all claiming to have the correct understanding?

DavidTree · Jan 2, 2022

Aidan1 said:

Happy New Year to you Aidan1,

What is God's View from Heaven to us concerning His Gift of Tongues?

CS1 · Jan 2, 2022

Aidan1 said:

No, you do not know what you are talking about. All the gifts are given to the Church and we are told to seek them, desire them and do so earnestly. Yet, the Holy Spirit doesn't force you to use them. You are just unlearned in this matter. 1cor 13 known as the Love Chapter,

is saying the gifts used without love are nothing. Trying actually to read the whole chapter. The Holy Spirit does two things in the Believer

1. give power to be a witness of the resurrected Lord Acts 1:8
2. Come to live in the believer John chapter 14-16 lead them into all truth.

CS1 · Jan 2, 2022

TheLearner said:

there is much difference LOl friend.

Aidan1 · Jan 2, 2022

DavidTree said:

Happy New year DavidTree! Well, i believe if the gift of speaking in tongues still is important for us,( as it is claimed) then we all would have this gift, because the Holy Spirit is the One who gives this gift.
And the most Important point: it would be written in the word of God.
But Paul, who wishes that all could speak in tongues as heself. Statet clear: 1. not all will get this gift. 2. in compare the gift of speaking in tongues aka the gift of prophecie we should take the prophecie. ( this all you find in the 1. Letter to the Corinthians, which had obviously an problem with speaking of tongues)
I dont know exactly what we speak in heaven, but i am shure this is not important to know.

Aidan1 · Jan 2, 2022

CS1 said:

Well, you are saying that I dont know what I am talking about.
I expierenced to be a witness of the ressurrected Lord
and I know that the Holy Spirit leads to all truth.
Thats why i dont believe certain man made teachings.

CS1 · Jan 2, 2022

TDidymas said:

When Jesus told the pharisees that they should believe His works, He was talking about the obvious miracles He was performing, that is, lame people healed, blind people seeing, deaf people hearing, dead people coming to life. That's a vast difference from what you practice day to day. If what you had was miraculous, it would be a very easy thing to demonstrate. But what I get is that you are afraid that your fig leaves will show that you're really naked in that respect.

It has been proven beyond doubt (for those with an open mind and open heart to the truth) that modern tongues (for the most part) is not miraculous, anyone can do it, it has no language structure, and insufficient vocabulary to convey any intelligible message. So those doing it are deceived, and are taking the Lord's name in vain when they claim it's from God (albeit they are ignorant of that fact).

So if you really want to prove me wrong, then do as I ask, because it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. It's a simple request, although it will take some time and effort. If you love your fellow Christians who need to be corrected, then you'll do whatever it takes. On the other hand, if you love only yourself, you'll continue to be hostile and slanderous.

I'm not asking you to prove you are the Christ, I already know you're not. So comparing what you do to the works of Christ and implying that I should believe you on account of the works you do is nonsense. It's ludicrous because the works you are doing (in this forum) is so far from Christlike, most people with any knowledge and spiritual maturity are shaking their heads. A Christlike work would be to repent from your hostility, and submit to doing what will obviously solve the problem of disunity among believers.

Everyone knows what a witch doctor is and what he does, so stop using exaggerative and slanderous language. Jesus said that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks, and what you're showing in your words is evil, not good. You might think it's good, and you might think you have the Spirit of God, but I'm saying that what you're showing is a different spirit. The apostle Paul wrote that controversies are inevitable, to show who is approved of God and who is not. If you don't start acting like you're approved of God, no one is going to listen to anything you say.

So, as I spoke before, God does heal today, and some of those healings are well documented. But I've yet to see any so-called 'tongues' well documented. I'm asking people who have the gift to well document it, so that it's a clear testimony that God is in it. So far, everyone who has documented it has proven the opposite.

Can you understand that the other side (your side) needs an apologetic argument? It might be settled for you, but it's not for millions of Christians. If you want people to believe that what you do is of God, then shouldn't you make that effort? But if not, then why are you posting in this forum, except just to argue in an endless debate, which the apostle Paul warned Timothy about?

If you continue in the same vein that you're going, the only reasonable conclusion anyone can make is that you fear exposure. Why don't you prove me wrong in this matter, and do what I ask?

You said much of thing here but you opinion and not one text used to prove the gifts are not for today.

You have smug comments and profaning with such things like

"If what you had was miraculous, it would be a very easy thing to demonstrate. But what I get is that you are afraid that your fig leaves will show that you're really naked in that respect."

Nothing you have provided has proven anything beyond reasonable doubt LOL.

You are your Rocket scientist and linguist and secular names like Modern tongues created by those of secular humanism who rely on their own human intellect and use hostility in their comments as you are.

Just like a Pharisees as many of those like you like to do ask for proof. You insult and try to suggest one is saying they are Christ? Name call with your immaturity.

What is the reason for signs and wonders after Jesus ascended? Can you answer that from the word of God? IF you can, I would be very impressed please use the scriptures found in the Book of Acts.

CS1 · Jan 2, 2022

Aidan1 said:

You don't what you are talking about

CS1 · Jan 2, 2022

Aidan1 said:

you did not even know what you just said until you were just told it

DavidTree · Jan 2, 2022

Aidan1 said:

The Gifts of the Spirit are deposited into Blood Washed Saints as the Spirit desires.

The Apostle Paul said:
There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.

For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. For in fact the body is not one member but many.

If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I am not of the body,” is it therefore not of the body? And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I am not of the body,” is it therefore not of the body? If the whole body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where would be the smelling? But now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body just as He pleased. And if they were all one member, where would the body be?

But now indeed there are many members, yet one body. And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”; nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” No, much rather, those members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary. And those members of the body which we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow greater honor; and our unpresentable parts have greater modesty, but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, that there should be no schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.

Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles? Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? But earnestly desire the best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way.

PLEASE Read this carefully, a number of times, and let me know if this gives you a clearer understanding of the Gift of Tongues.

CS1 · Jan 2, 2022

Heaven_Bound said:

Before Fire 2 weeks ago

After Fire from Police Drone

Now, look at how close the fire got to my buildings, went through my buildings, but never touched my buildings or animals. Over 400 acres went up in flame from a neighbor's mistake. Plus, 4 people confirmed what I knew running through flames 15 feet tall, black so black could not see, smoke you could not breathe. But God through an Angel that 3 others confirmed themselves was working with me side by side, face to face, and Vanished once we finished when I turned to thank Him for helping me and praying to Yeshua as I had asked of him.

But the Fire and Police Reports show the fire came within 6 inches of my Home and Buildings and it destroyed 250 acres of my top, side, lower fields, but the Police and Firemen said, it's like this fire had a mind of its own and knew it could not touch the home and buildings. I replied, that is what Oil and Anointing every perimeter of my property and placing Angels will do for you. Everyone knew it was a Miracle of God and no way was it anything else. People found God over this. Now, that is a Testimony, but, it's only 1 of 4 encounters with God face to face I can share.

I'm sure their linguist can explain this. God is so good.

Heaven_Bound · Jan 2, 2022

CS1 said:

Amen!

All I have to say is, PRAISE THE LORD!

Aidan1 · Jan 2, 2022

CS1 said:

You must know it then

kaylagrl · Jan 2, 2022

Aidan1 said:

As a person who traveled and ministered in many different denominations, most of the difference is how they set up governing for their church. Unless you add once saved always saved, a Baptist believes the same as a Nazarene and a Wesleyan. Pentecostals like AofG believe in tongues, but they don't push that belief. They certainly don't believe it's a salvation issue. So then you can add Pentecostals to the list. Back home in Canada we had a bad church split in the Pentecostal church there, it was the only one in town. All those people found churches to go to and are still there many years later. Some went to the Wesleyan, some to the Baptist, some to the Nazarene. So denominations are not a reason for not trusting the Word of God.

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