Russia preparing for war
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I expect to see military conflict. To what extent, I don't know. I don't believe America is in control of America. I hope I'm wrong!
But is there mushroom for negotiation? Are both sides toad stalling their public
Will anyone be left to remember it?
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Russia isn't the aggressor here... WE ARE. It's my understanding that a CIA installed regime controls Ukraine right now. The desire of many of Russia's more nationalistic leaders is to unite all Russian speakers under the Russian flag... and many of them are in Ukraine. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something.
What I'm definitely NOT misunderstanding is that the illegitimate Biden regime is trying to stir up another illegal foreign war to take the scrutiny off of their 2020 election steal. They are terrified that Bastille Day is coming and their heads are going to end up on spikes for that treason, and they should be.
What I'm definitely NOT misunderstanding is that the illegitimate Biden regime is trying to stir up another illegal foreign war to take the scrutiny off of their 2020 election steal. They are terrified that Bastille Day is coming and their heads are going to end up on spikes for that treason, and they should be.
What you are forgetting is that the ordinary Ukrainians do not want to be under the boot of Russia (just like all the other Soviet satellites do not want Russian interference).
"Studies in Montreal examined evidence revealed by the ongoing trial and government investigation into the Maidan massacre in Ukraine. This massacre of protesters and police during the Euromaidan mass protests on February 20, 2014 not only constituted a major crime and human rights violation, but also contributed to a cascading series of events. These included the overthrow of the Ukrainian government, the start of the civil war in Donbas, Russian military interventions in Crimea and Donbas, the Russian annexation of Crimea, and, ultimately, major and protracted conflicts between Ukraine and Russia, on the one hand, and Russia and the West, on the other."
https://mronline.org/2021/12/11/the-maidan-massacre-in-ukraine/
What Russia has been doing all along is planting their own soldiers (or mercenaries) in Ukraine to give the impression that the Ukrainians want Russia to annex it. Those are all false flag operations. As to Western involvement, it is now too late. NATO chose to weaken itself -- a long time ago -- and not protect the countries which were at risk from Russian aggression.
Note MR (Mothly Review) is a Communist publication.
Thanks for all the info, fellow CC-ers! Lots to digest here. What is certain is that unilaterally becoming the "policeman of the world" is a huge headache that ordinary American citizens never wanted for their nation.
For the record, as a general rule, I support the right of people everywhere to self determine their governance. Most simply don't have the fortitude to do so, however, and it's not our job to do it for them. Unless specifically asked for aid, the USA should just keep its nose out of other nations business unless it directly impacts our own safety.
For the record, as a general rule, I support the right of people everywhere to self determine their governance. Most simply don't have the fortitude to do so, however, and it's not our job to do it for them. Unless specifically asked for aid, the USA should just keep its nose out of other nations business unless it directly impacts our own safety.
I would also add that the Moloch and Baal worshippers liked using Ukraine to do their dirty work because they would say "it is the Russians" and the blame would be directed elsewhere. As the Moloch and Baal worshippers get exposed Ukraine is the hill they will die on.
You are right. America has not been in control of America since at least WWI. The globalist elites (including Big Pharma and Big Tech) are in full control, and Biden and his gang of thugs are simply puppets. Pfizer and Moderna are now deciding whether you will have any constitutional freedoms. Do we even know if they have paid off the Supreme Court justices (at least those on the Left). Are there even any investigative journalists in existence?
Ukraine is a clown. He falls to the western world, but the western world doesn't treat Ukraine as a person.
Ukraine has no ability to provoke a war against Russia. The United States will not really support Ukraine. It can only disgust Russia.
I don't think it's wise for Russia to start war first.
So on the whole, war is impossible.
Ukraine has no ability to provoke a war against Russia. The United States will not really support Ukraine. It can only disgust Russia.
I don't think it's wise for Russia to start war first.
So on the whole, war is impossible.
That's the sane position. However Russia does not want the peoples of the former Soviet satellites to be free. They manipulated the president of Ukraine to massacre Ukrainians back in 2014. But back then, the Ukrainian president rejected help from the West and chose to be controlled by Moscow. Now Russia want total control of Ukraine.
I am quoting from a Guardian report from Feb 21, 2014.
"I accompanied them to make sure they were not beaten but forgiven," said Nikolai Himaylo, a Ukrainian Orthodox priest who administered the last rites to some of the dead. "I'm a witness to what has become a criminal state," he said. "Yanukovych cannot be forgiven. These boys are dying for freedom."
Dependent on Russian money and gas supplies since he spurned trade and political pacts with Europe in November, the spark for the crisis, [President] Yanukovych was told by Moscow to maintain a hard line and warned that the financial aid could be turned off if he did not. Dmitry Medvedev, the Russian prime minister, said that Yanukovych would have to restore order to qualify for the Russian help and that if he did not the opposition forces would use him as "a doormat".
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/20/ukraine-dead-protesters-police