Jesus' Command in Matthew 28:19

[Wansvic]

Anyone who wishes to understand what Jesus meant in Matthew 28:19 need only to look up each detailed water baptism recorded. (Acts 2:38-41, 8:12-18, 10:44-48, 19:1-6, 22:16) The evidence is in the word itself. Every water baptism is done in the name of the Lord Jesus. Why? Because it is Jesus who was crucified for mankind. Paul made a point of indicating this in his conversation with the Corinthian's in 1 Cor. 1:12-15. Also relevant is the fact that in Jesus dwells all of the fulness of the Godhead. How do we know this? The bible tells us so, and makes a distinct association with baptism. Colossians 2:9-13.

Those who are interested in seeing who decided churches should use the phrase instead of obey Jesus' command can easily find the answer if they so desire. Do an Internet search.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Anyone who wishes to understand what Jesus meant in Matthew 28:19 need only to look up each detailed water baptism recorded. (Acts 2:38-41, 8:12-18, 10:44-48, 19:1-6, 22:16) The evidence is in the word itself. Every water baptism is done in the name of the Lord Jesus. Why? Because it is Jesus who was crucified for mankind. Paul made a point of indicating this in his conversation with the Corinthian's in 1 Cor. 1:12-15. Also relevant is the fact that in Jesus dwells all of the fulness of the Godhead. How do we know this? The bible tells us so, and makes a distinct association with baptism. Colossians 2:9-13.

Those who are interested in seeing who decided churches should use the phrase instead of obey Jesus' command can easily find the answer if they so desire. Do an Internet search.

great post thanks for sharing !!

“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭4:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[p_rehbein]

Anyone who wishes to understand what Jesus meant in Matthew 28:19 need only to look up each detailed water baptism recorded

Wow! Glad you told me that. For awhile there I thought Jesus SAID WHAT HE MEANT. Guess He was confused, and we have to look at the Apostles to see what Jesus really meant huh?

19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Even a Third Grader could understand............why do so many "scholars" stumble at the meaning? Jesus could have not been more clear, but, since some groups don't believe in the Trinity or the Holy Ghost, or His indwelling presence, they corrupt the Commandment of Jesus and change it to just "in the name of Jesus." Sad, truly sad......

Not surprised though. There are more Scriptures where Jesus spoke quite clearly, and some groups completely ignore what Jesus said, or pretend it has a "hidden meaning."


, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Wow! Glad you told me that. For awhile there I thought Jesus SAID WHAT HE MEANT. Guess He was confused, and we have to look at the Apostles to see what Jesus really meant huh?

19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Even a Third Grader could understand............why do so many "scholars" stumble at the meaning? Jesus could have not been more clear, but, since some groups don't believe in the Trinity or the Holy Ghost, or His indwelling presence, they corrupt the Commandment of Jesus and change it to just "in the name of Jesus." Sad, truly sad......

Not surprised though. There are more Scriptures where Jesus spoke quite clearly, and some groups completely ignore what Jesus said, or pretend it has a "hidden meaning."


, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this is the “ Godhead”

“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:7‬ ‭

Jesus is the one !! Revealed to believers in the Gospel

“This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭19:5‬ ‭

the three are one , there is one name Jesus who is the Christ !!! .that name is the only name representing God in truth.

the ot has a veil and obscures everything even God revealing his true name

the name is Jesus there is no other

“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭4:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

one name glorifies and embodies forever the true God of Abraham the true God of all nations.

Jesus Christ the begotten ! He is the fullness and glory of the eternal God who stepped into mortality to save us all Who believe in his name !! Revealed in the books of Matthew mark Luke and John

 

[KelbyofGod]

Wow! Glad you told me that. For awhile there I thought Jesus SAID WHAT HE MEANT. Guess He was confused, and we have to look at the Apostles to see what Jesus really meant huh?

19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Out of curiosity concerning your position, What IS the name of the Son?

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

 

[oyster67]

We are saved by the precious Blood of Jesus, not the water in the baptismal tub.

 

[KelbyofGod]

We are saved by the precious Blood of Jesus, not the water in the baptismal tub.

Thanks for the like on the other page. My stance on baptism is similar to Wansvic's (just being transparent there) but not for the reason Rebel77 was suggesting.

May I ask a second honest question? <--that one was the first, lol

Are you open to consider that Salvation has more than one aspect?

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

 

[oyster67]

Are you open to consider that Salvation has more than one aspect?

I am open to Scripture that states we must abide in the Vine AFTER Salvation, but I am not open to any suggestion that this might refer to any rite or ritual like Water Baptism.
Abiding in the Vine still pertains to faith in the Blood of Jesus, so I suppose that my anwer to your question would be............................

No.

 

[KelbyofGod]

I am open to Scripture that states we must abide in the Vine AFTER Salvation, but I am not open to any suggestion that this might refer to any rite or ritual like Water Baptism.
Abiding in the Vine still pertains to faith in the Blood of Jesus, so I suppose that my anwer to your question would be............................

No.

The reason I asked is that I see more than one.
Jesus had to die on the cross. That happened at one point.
Jesus had to rise from the grave. That happened at a different point.
The apostles had to believe. That happened at yet another point.
Jesus had to depart (ascend) to his father. That's another aspect that happened at another point.

And we haven't even reached the outpouring of the Holy Ghost. (which happened at yet another point.)

God obviously had no problem with salvation being something that takes more than one second and more than one aspect to accomplish. I don't get why men are so fixated with the notion that everything must happen at a singular point.

Sorry it took me so long to reply.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

 

[infinitekhanol]

great post thanks for sharing !!

“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭4:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The point is that, it does not matter whether one is baptised in the name of the father, the Son and the holy Ghost or in the name of Jesus. Both fulfils the standard Jesus gave on how one should be baptised.

 

[Wansvic]

Wow! Glad you told me that. For awhile there I thought Jesus SAID WHAT HE MEANT. Guess He was confused, and we have to look at the Apostles to see what Jesus really meant huh?

19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Even a Third Grader could understand............why do so many "scholars" stumble at the meaning? Jesus could have not been more clear, but, since some groups don't believe in the Trinity or the Holy Ghost, or His indwelling presence, they corrupt the Commandment of Jesus and change it to just "in the name of Jesus." Sad, truly sad......

Not surprised though. There are more Scriptures where Jesus spoke quite clearly, and some groups completely ignore what Jesus said, or pretend it has a "hidden meaning."


, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

God's word is always confirmed by 2-3 scriptures. The apostles were not confused. They knew exactly what Jesus was telling them to do. He told them to baptize in the name of... and that is what they did; they baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Ask yourself why there is not one single reference in the biblical record where a person water baptized someone using the phrase used by numerous churches today. It's a corruption begun by the forerunners of the Roman Catholic Church in 325 A.D. Prior to that time all were water baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

 

[montana123]

Anyone who wishes to understand what Jesus meant in Matthew 28:19 need only to look up each detailed water baptism recorded. (Acts 2:38-41, 8:12-18, 10:44-48, 19:1-6, 22:16) The evidence is in the word itself. Every water baptism is done in the name of the Lord Jesus. Why? Because it is Jesus who was crucified for mankind. Paul made a point of indicating this in his conversation with the Corinthian's in 1 Cor. 1:12-15. Also relevant is the fact that in Jesus dwells all of the fulness of the Godhead. How do we know this? The bible tells us so, and makes a distinct association with baptism. Colossians 2:9-13.

Those who are interested in seeing who decided churches should use the phrase instead of obey Jesus' command can easily find the answer if they so desire. Do an Internet search.

Jews, Samaritans, and Gentiles were all baptized in the name of Jesus.

Jesus is the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

Jesus said He came in the Father's name.

Hebrews 1 says the Son inherited the name Jesus from the Father.

John 14 says that the Holy Spirit comes in the name of Jesus.

In the Old Testament God said He would reveal a new name to the Jews and speak to them which Jesus told Philip if he has seen Him he has seen the Father and the works that He does are not His own but the Father that dwells in Him He does the works.

Some people might say the Jews were baptized in Jesus' name to turn them to Him but we still baptize in the name Father, Son, and Holy Ghost but the Samaritans and Gentiles were also baptized in Jesus' name.

Which the Bible says there is no other name under heaven whereby we are saved but the name Jesus so why would we baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

Which Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are not names but titles and Jesus is the name that is above all names not only in this world but in the world to come.

 

[Wansvic]

Wow! Glad you told me that. For awhile there I thought Jesus SAID WHAT HE MEANT. Guess He was confused, and we have to look at the Apostles to see what Jesus really meant huh?

19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Even a Third Grader could understand............why do so many "scholars" stumble at the meaning? Jesus could have not been more clear, but, since some groups don't believe in the Trinity or the Holy Ghost, or His indwelling presence, they corrupt the Commandment of Jesus and change it to just "in the name of Jesus." Sad, truly sad......

Not surprised though. There are more Scriptures where Jesus spoke quite clearly, and some groups completely ignore what Jesus said, or pretend it has a "hidden meaning."


, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

There really is no need to ridicule. Please consider presenting what you believe without being rude.

 

[infinitekhanol]

Jews, Samaritans, and Gentiles were all baptized in the name of Jesus.

Jesus is the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

Jesus said He came in the Father's name.

Hebrews 1 says the Son inherited the name Jesus from the Father.

John 14 says that the Holy Spirit comes in the name of Jesus.

In the Old Testament God said He would reveal a new name to the Jews and speak to them which Jesus told Philip if he has seen Him he has seen the Father and the works that He does are not His own but the Father that dwells in Him He does the works.

Some people might say the Jews were baptized in Jesus' name to turn them to Him but we still baptize in the name Father, Son, and Holy Ghost but the Samaritans and Gentiles were also baptized in Jesus' name.

Which the Bible says there is no other name under heaven whereby we are saved but the name Jesus so why would we baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

Which Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are not names but titles and Jesus is the name that is above all names not only in this world but in the world to come.

The point is that it does not matter whether you baptise in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost or in the name of Jesus or the Lord Jesus. Understanding the unity of the Deity (of God) and the authority and power given unto Jesus should remove any doubt or misunderstanding one may have.

 

[JaumeJ]

Underscoring the Post of Montaana ####

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

The point is that, it does not matter whether one is baptised in the name of the father, the Son and the holy Ghost or in the name of Jesus. Both fulfils the standard Jesus gave on how one should be baptised.

can you point to a single person baptized in “ the name “ of the father or Holy Ghost ? Father , son and Holy Ghost aren’t names they are three aspects pointed out of Jesus Christ which is the name of the one God. His name is Jesus his name isn’t father son and Holy Ghost that’s a description of “the three “ who are one

but the name of the father son and Holy Ghost is Jesus !!

that’s why you won’t find a record of anyone getting baptized “ in the name of the father son and Holy Ghost “ unless they are baptized in the name of the lord Jesus that’s his name

 

[Pilgrimshope]

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Jews, Samaritans, and Gentiles were all baptized in the name of Jesus.

Jesus is the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

Jesus said He came in the Father's name.

Hebrews 1 says the Son inherited the name Jesus from the Father.

John 14 says that the Holy Spirit comes in the name of Jesus.

In the Old Testament God said He would reveal a new name to the Jews and speak to them which Jesus told Philip if he has seen Him he has seen the Father and the works that He does are not His own but the Father that dwells in Him He does the works.

Some people might say the Jews were baptized in Jesus' name to turn them to Him but we still baptize in the name Father, Son, and Holy Ghost but the Samaritans and Gentiles were also baptized in Jesus' name.

Which the Bible says there is no other name under heaven whereby we are saved but the name Jesus so why would we baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

Which Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are not names but titles and Jesus is the name that is above all names not only in this world but in the world to come.

amen Jesus is the name of the father son and Holy Ghost who are one !!

 

[oyster67]

The reason I asked is that I see more than one.
Jesus had to die on the cross. That happened at one point.
Jesus had to rise from the grave. That happened at a different point.
The apostles had to believe. That happened at yet another point.
Jesus had to depart (ascend) to his father. That's another aspect that happened at another point.

And we haven't even reached the outpouring of the Holy Ghost. (which happened at yet another point.)

God obviously had no problem with salvation being something that takes more than one second and more than one aspect to accomplish. I don't get why men are so fixated with the notion that everything must happen at a singular point.

Sorry it took me so long to reply.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

I don't want to hurt your feelings, but the idea that all prophecies must be fulfilled before anyone can be saved is a bit..... odd.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I don't want to hurt your feelings, but the idea that all prophecies must be fulfilled before anyone can be saved is a bit..... odd.

“And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭23:43‬ ‭

saved

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” ( saved )
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

saved

“Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: ( saved ) And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”
‭‭John‬ ‭11:25-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

saved

“And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭7:50‬ ‭KJV‬‬

saved

“And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭27:52-53‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Saved !!!

 

[Pilgrimshope]

We are saved by the precious Blood of Jesus, not the water in the baptismal tub.

we’re not born of blood though ….rather water and spirit

“Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:5‬ ‭

get baptized in water for remission of sins in his name and receive the spirit of promise

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38-39, 41‬ ‭KJV‬‬

him shedding his blood doesn’t mean the things we’re taught to do don’t apply. Baptism is an important thing it’s part of the great commission and something every disciple did even Paul immediately after he received his sight back

“And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭9:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jews did it and so do Gentiles who received the spirit forst and then sre commanded to get baptized in water for remission of sins

“While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

…. Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:44, 47-48‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the value of getting baptized in water for remission in his name is what he said it is remission of sins through one act of faith

There’s no reason for us to alter or deny the doctrine of baptism it’s basic christian doctrine and we do not because we believe what God said about doing it

“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬


We’re not buried with him because he died but because we believe he died for our sins and get baptized in his name so we can be recognized as having died