The darkness and the light

[Pilgrimshope]

The darkness

“Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness.

We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes: we stumble at noonday as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead men.

We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves: we look for judgment, but there is none; for salvation, but it is far off from us. For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them;
(Romans 3:19-20)

Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the Lord saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.

And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak. ……And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the Lord.”

‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭59:1-2, 9-12, 15-17, 20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

A promised coming dawn ….

“The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined….

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this. The Lord sent a word into Jacob, and it hath lighted upon Israel.”

‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:2, 6-8 KJV‬‬

The dawning of the Son , the light of the world

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. …All things were made by him;…. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1, 3-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:9-10, 14‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me. I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.”

‭‭John‬ ‭12:44-46‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”

‭‭John‬ ‭8:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭1:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

there are many many more scriptures regarding the light of Christ Jesus and the darkness in the world. The lack of judgement , the commission of sins , the presence of iniquity , the blindness without truth .

but then there’s the light and the truth and the morning Sun found in Christ that lights up That darkness like noonday

just some scripture to consider God bless

 

[glen55]

We all came down as man that partakes of tree good and evil, weak and blind is darkness but can't destroy light that shine in man. We begin to remember light by Grace that doesn't remember sin. The last prayer is John 17:5 that is to all that will have Jesus in heart and skull awake from what we came down and then start back up. Good and evil on the planet always balanced in this school.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Amen brother

 

[pittsburghjoe]

i stumbled on to something strange with light and dark when i was researching what the "sea" meant for beasts to rise up out of.

there is a sea of lukewarm ...those eating from the tree of knowledge ...darkness.

if beasts rise up out of sea or land, is the "sea" a sea of dead spirits (society/beast system/darkness) and the land symbolized as religion with satan's spin on Christianity?

humans went from obvious idolatry with worshipping idols to worshipping themselves with self-idolatry.

Matthew 4:16-19
The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up. 17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 18 And Jesus, walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers. 19 And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.

//Fish dead spirits out of the sea.

Revelation 10:5-6
And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

The Reborn Kingdom/Body of CHRIST doesn't have a sea.


JESUS told us to live meekly. We give this place up in His Name.
The path is narrow. the false prophets of prosperity sermons are generating a sea of lukewarm.

When you die in CHRIST, you start living His Life (Light). That's how The Cross stands in for you at Judgment. Your Judgment Day already happened if you hold The Reborn Kingdom Image.

Humble yourself, ask GOD how He wants things to go. Stop fighting His ways with excuses to remain in the dark.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Yeah that’s several good ideas there brother , always enjoy you for the particular reason of your unique and bit abstract thinking , in certain points you make , and also certain questions you pose at times. Always appreciate you because you make me think in a different way and consider something I may not have

I can relate a bit to that always have lol

you know how there’s no sea right here ?

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1‬ ‭

“And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭22:1-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

If you were to step outside of the throne room where John is seeing the vision , the same vision might look like this of you stepped outside the city gates to the east on the river banks at a far distance not seeing inside where the throne is

“Now when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the river were very many trees on the one side and on the other. Then said he unto me, These waters issue out toward the east country, and go down into the desert, and go into the sea: which being brought forth into the sea, the waters shall be healed.

And it shall come to pass, that every thing that liveth, which moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh.

And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from En–gedi even unto En–eglaim; they shall be a place to spread forth nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, as the fish of the great sea, exceeding many.

And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months,

because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭47:7-10, 12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

there seems to be a lot of information like this about the same visions the prophets saw from different angles and times

“And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

rivers flow into the sea


God bless brother ! Always good to hear your thoughts

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Erm, i guess the sea in different when it isn't talking about the cursed world.

This is curious: "and go into the sea: which being brought forth into the sea, the waters shall be healed."

Whenever The Tree of LIFE is mentioned, i immediately consider the Wisdom from It. i think Adam originally had It when GOD Breathed It into him. The HOLY SPIRIT has Fruits. The Water Feeding The Tree could be LOVE from The Father ...not sure.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

JESUS is The Way to The Tree of LIFE because The HOLY SPIRIT Points to JESUS (The Bridge to The Father) with The Narrow Path that lets us walk past the Angels guarding The Tree of LIFE.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

We are the Light of the world Through CHRIST in this life. It is Light that The Father Witnesses as Righteousness past the veil of death.
GOD Knows His Children.

Romans 8:16-17
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

The Kingdom of The Body of CHRIST is LIGHT (Wisdom/Tree of LIFE). We are Pillars in a Kingdom of LIGHT right now. We reign with CHRIST with Light, not physical rule ...what is going on with Premills/pharisees wanting that kind of power? We reign with Light over darkness.

Matthew 6:19-24
Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

 

[Nehemiah6]

God is Light, and in Him is no darkness at all. Yet we read: And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

God had a reason to allow physical darkness to exist, and physical darkness also stands for spiritual darkness (sin and evil). But from God's perspective this state of affairs lasts for only about six "days" (since a thousand years are as a day in His sight). After that there will never again be darkness in this universe. But "outer darkness" will be reserved for the Lake of Fire (Hell).

 

[JAPOV]

This little light of mine, I'm gonna' let it shine!

 

[pittsburghjoe]

To let The HOLY SPIRIT run your thoughts is to have Light in you. death (darkness) can't own you when JESUS is the Head.


Psalm 23
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Do we reign with CHRIST now by overcoming darkness with His Light?


“But ye are a CHOSEN generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light;” (I Peter 2:9)!

“Ye have not CHOSEN Me, but I have CHOSEN you, and (((ORDAINED))) you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain [John 15]

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Do we reign with CHRIST now by overcoming darkness with His Light?


“But ye are a CHOSEN generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light;” (I Peter 2:9)!

“Ye have not CHOSEN Me, but I have CHOSEN you, and (((ORDAINED))) you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain [John 15]

“Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭2:6-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Erm, i guess the sea in different when it isn't talking about the cursed world.

This is curious: "and go into the sea: which being brought forth into the sea, the waters shall be healed."

Whenever The Tree of LIFE is mentioned, i immediately consider the Wisdom from It. i think Adam originally had It when GOD Breathed It into him. The HOLY SPIRIT has Fruits. The Water Feeding The Tree could be LOVE from The Father ...not sure.

yes brother I think there are always several ideas and layers

I was thinking maybe John sees no sea , and the “sea “ becomes changed from wicked to a sea of life because of the rivers flowing out from Christs throne !!! The rivers of life !!!

sort of an image of the sea being re created after its destroyed but created full of life

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Do we reign with CHRIST now by overcoming darkness with His Light?


“But ye are a CHOSEN generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light;” (I Peter 2:9)!

“Ye have not CHOSEN Me, but I have CHOSEN you, and (((ORDAINED))) you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain [John 15]

“Do we reign with CHRIST now by overcoming darkness with His Light?”


if we are willing to step out of darkness into his light acknowledge and repent !!

“And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:19-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Paul continues

“But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭5:13-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:

That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭26:22-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Paul was witnessing the same light the prophets were the light of Christ the Lord.

“Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭51:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.”
‭‭John‬ ‭9:39‬ ‭

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭

“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:48‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:35‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the psalms

“Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭119:105‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ….In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1, 4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[pittsburghjoe]

JESUS was able to live His life without sin (darkness) entering His Blood. He was the Perfect Sacrifice for all time because being Reborn into His Image (Light) allows us to be The Sacrifice also. The Image (Light) is how The HOLY SPIRIT Teaches us.