Allah and Christ

[Pilgrimshope]

Jesus is everything. He is the Alpha and Omega as well as the Atonement for our sins. Christianity is not one of many competing religions. It is the one and only Way, Truth, and Life. It is Jesus.

2 Corinthians
6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you,
6:18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

“And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty”

Amen Islam denies at its very core that God sent his son or has any son, puts Jesus beneath Muhammad as a man and prophet only which denies the core of Christianity


The Bible says at its core

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬


the unholy book of Islam wars against that at all cost


“The Jews say Ezra is the son of God, while the Christians say the Messiah is the son of God. Such are their assertions, by which they imitate the infidels of old. God confound them! How perverse they are!
—Qur’an 9:30

“Wonderful Originator of the heavens and the earth; how can He have a son when He has no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.
—Qur'an 6:101

They say, ‘God has begotten a son.’ God forbid! Self-sufficient is He. His is all that the heavens and the earth contain. Surely for this you have no sanction. Whould you say of God what you know not?
—Qur’an 10:68

many many more it’s one of the cores of thier faith that separates them entirely from the true God.

they deny everything Christians believe and call it perverse. In the end times in thoer scripture they go about persecuting and killing all Christians and anyone who will not believe in allah and deny everything else

my guess is knowing Islam is spread in the cross the globe faster than any other religion it is the religion that will war against Christ claiming another God

 

[Aerials1978]

In the Quran scriptures, Christ(Isa) did not die on a cross, but was substituted with another individual. When the Mahdi(12th Imam)comes, Christ will be the one to destroy all heretics who called Him God and establish Islam as the world religion. Actually, it’s the complete opposite as what is written in Revaluation.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Yes, this is the greatest and most egregious difference. Their “Jesus” (Isa) actually lines up with the anti-Christ in the timing and manner of his appearance.

FYI: Muslims follow the Quran and the Hadith. The Hadith is their historical book of the religion. Much about jihad, calls to war and murder are in the Hadith.

indeed Mohammed is their real “ messiah “ Jesus was a good man and prophet but certainly he was not the son of God. “

it makes them immediately and exactly opposed to Christianity it’s probably why they have been warring against Christians and Jews for ages now

also I think that the fact that a mosque claiming God has no son is part of the abomination of desolation

Jesus who suffered so much was spit upon , beaten by jew and gentile both , whipped by the Romans , insulted and accused by Israel called a blasphemer and led through the streets of Gods beloved city , nailed brutally tonthe cross where he suffocated under the Weoght of mans sin rose up later and ascended to the father in heaven

to invent a religion that denies him is an abomination in my sight and to set up a mosque claiming so on the temple mound in Jerusalem just highlights what Islam is for me

not to mention of you look at Muslim dominated countries the terror they rule the people with and injustices they commit the killing indiscriminately those things are of the devil not of God who ruled his people with living and active fatherly enduring and powerful love

his wrath is for the rest of people who choose to rebel and be his enemy

 

[Pilgrimshope]

In the Quran scriptures, Christ(Isa) did not die on a cross, but was substituted with another individual. When the Mahdi(12th Imam)comes, Christ will be the one to destroy all heretics who called Him God and establish Islam as the world religion. Actually, it’s the complete opposite as what is written in Revaluation.

amen I believe if I’m not mistaken they claim he will return , marry live fourty years then die and then Muhammad will come

it’s all very opposed in every way as the Bible is holy , thier book is unholy completely opposed

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Satan it is! On this we agree!

could very well embody the beast Islam once destroyed the ancient world it may be rising again in the present world

 

[oyster67]

"What can wash away our sin?

Nothing but the Blood of Jesus."

 

[oyster67]

"What can wash away our sin?

Nothing but the Blood of Jesus."

Perhaps the Muslim version goes:

"What can wash away our sin?

Nothing but the Blood of Christians."

 

[Charlie24]

could very well embody the beast Islam once destroyed the ancient world it may be rising again in the present world

No doubt Islam will rise! But from what I read from scripture concerning the anti-christ, he will honor no religion and claim to be God.

From what I see this is where Islam meets there doom, from the anti-christ.

Of course God is using the anti-christ to punish false religion in all its forms (the great whore), and then God destroys him.

 

[Charlie24]

Perhaps the Muslim version goes:

"What can wash away our sin?

Nothing but the Blood of Christians."

What makes it so sad is that all of Islam is and will suffer because of the Jihadists.

Reminds me of when I was in the army, just a handful of idiots caused all of us to suffer.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

No doubt Islam will rise! But from what I read from scripture concerning the anti-christ, he will honor no religion and claim to be God.

From what I see this is where Islam meets there doom, from the anti-christ.

Of course God is using the anti-christ to punish false religion in all its forms (the great whore), and then God destroys him.

exactly he will claim what “ allah” claims he allows no o to r religion and claims to be the almighty and only god.

a comical and heinous , dastardly and false statement by anyone’s measure !! But that’s what his claim is dearest brother look into it how is “ allah” defined in thier unholy fables ?

he’s like this to those who are trapped in his lies.

“And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

just like our True and only God says this

“Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭20:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

His lie is he’s the ot god , but the New Testament is false. He is exactly anti christ .

the thing is if you look deeply at that statement

he will honor no god but claim himself to be god

he is saying I’m god worship me only Like the true God is truly telling all of us

it’s like the reflection on a pond one will drown you , but one is the real God standing there . He’s claiming everything the New Testament claims is perverse and a lie even as Satan does he says “ sure Jesus is a good man sent by god but no he didn’t die for mans sin , md he did not rise from the dead . He did not ascend to the glorification he had before the creation ever was the glory of the Father , the glory of His own self who Loved mankind much that he came to be one of us , to dwell among us , experience temptations like we do because he never had been tempted before so he faced it on the flesh

they believe nothing we believe and in fact you will die if you don’t repent of believing Christianity in their book by no uncertain terms

I’m convinced Islam is going to be the tool by which the false god comes before Jesus does to deceive the world saying he himself is the true God d messiah

I think Islam’s predictions as far as him coming , may. E the deception were warned of That is actually going to happen d fool the world to believe Islam was the real religion but then Christs coming just after that period of tribulation like thoer scriptires predict them slaughtering Christians

but I could be way off eho
Knows you know ? It’s all such a mystery and God is so far beyond us so good and so great ll we can ever really know is what he allows us through perseverance in his faith to Know as he teaches us and is so good and gracious to be son patient and caring on leading us back home

if we follow Islam it’s definately going to lead us to deny the gospel so if we believe the Bible it means certain damnation

but really every religion but Christianity is a lie meant to make us not believe Christ

 

[Pilgrimshope]

What makes it so sad is that all of Islam is and will suffer because of the Jihadists.

Reminds me of when I was in the army, just a handful of idiots caused all of us to suffer.

we the believers in the world are to share the good news and some will repent , no one is yet lost but the gospel needs to be preached or belief will never come

Jesus can save anyone !!!

 

[Blain]

Ok, so "Allah" is the Arab word for "God". So, when Arabs talk about god, they say "Allah" regardless of whether they are Muslim, jewish, or Christian or something else- because that is their language.

When English speaking Christian's say stuff like "ALLAH IS NOT GOD!!", or "HIS NAME IS NOT ALLAH!!", which I have seen from church pulpits- it comes off as either anti-Arab or just dumb.

It would be like if a Hebrew christian said "GOD [is not] Elohim!!" Or "Jesus [is NOT] Yeshua!!"

The word may mean the same thing but the two entities are very different so it would be correct to say allah is not God where as if we were to say God to a hebrew regardless of which of the several names he goes by it is the same entity
I mean the mexican name jesus is spoken with an h even though it is spelled the same as Jesus but the two people are very different a name is a name but a person is not

 

[Gideon300]

Some one the other day spoke to me that Allah is just another name for the same God as christianity.

I was surprised cos this was coming from a Christian, but it made me think what really separates that two.

I looked at a dvd on comparing Allah and Christ and the key thing is the Christian God IS Jesus and is a triune God.. where Allah is not triune... and Jesus is only a prophet (altho somehow still born of a virgin!)

But yes.. there seems a trend at least here in NZ to make Christian's and muslims 'one'.

I think it's coming from the Pope down to the masses

Allah is a name for God. That is true. However, Islam does not understand God the same as Christians do. And yes, there is a move by some Pentecostals and by the Roman Catholic organisation to merge Islam and Christianity. It is spiritual insanity, but these are the last days and anything is possible. Brian Houston has promoted the myth that Islam is one of the Abrahamic religions. Islam falsely claims that God's covenant promise was to Ishmael, not Isaac. God does not approve of a mass murdering paedophile as founder of a religion in His name. The Leopard still does not change its spots.

 

[JaumeJ]

I believe Allah is the etymological evolution in Arabic of the name, Eoah or El, which means Mighty One. It is the same as El, singular, Elohim plural.

 

[presidente]

Some one the other day spoke to me that Allah is just another name for the same God as christianity.

I was surprised cos this was coming from a Christian, but it made me think what really separates that two.

I looked at a dvd on comparing Allah and Christ and the key thing is the Christian God IS Jesus and is a triune God.. where Allah is not triune... and Jesus is only a prophet (altho somehow still born of a virgin!)

But yes.. there seems a trend at least here in NZ to make Christian's and muslims 'one'.

I think it's coming from the Pope down to the masses

Christians in some Muslim countries call God 'Allah.' It is in translations of the Bible. For example, the Indonesian standard translation says 'Allah' throughout the Bible where English translations say 'God.' My understanding is that Arabic Christians say 'Allah and various other languages use it to. There are some languages that get their religious language from Arabic. Bangladeshi Christians have a Bible translation that draws from Indian and Hindu religious language and a translation that draws from Arabic. I know of one Christian in the Indian-language group that is wary of the Arabic-influenced group.

I have heard Indonesian Christians describing Muslim ideas about God, and saying in Indonesian, "Their Allah..."


The theory I have heard about Semitic linguistics and in Arabic class is that 'Allah derives from 'al 'illah, which means 'the god'. 'Illah is believed to be cognate with 'Eloah in Hebrew, the singular of 'Elohim.

'Al 'illah is not a regular contraction that follows normal rules of Arabic like other words, for example, 'Abdullah, which is a contraction that follows the normal grammatical rules, a combination of 'abd and 'Allah.' 'Abd (or 'Abdu', I suppose) means 'servant'. Think of the Hebrew name 'Obed as a cognate word.

Canaanites used the word 'el' for their gods, for the dead. The ancient Ugarits had an 'El in their pantheon as the head of various gods, some of which are denounced in scripture. Their version of 'el fell in his own excrement when he was drunk... or vomit... cannot remember which. Clearly this is not the true El, El-Elyon, El-Shaddai that Abraham worshipped. But the same name was used. Christians and Muslims both use the word 'Allah in Arabic. It seems strange and foreign to us because it is a foreign word. Many Muslims believe that God spoke in Arabic and that they should use Allah, the Arabic word, as his name and not translate it.

'Allah is more related to the Hebrew word than 'God' is in English or 'Deus' in Latin or 'Dios' in Spanish.

My Arabic and Shi'i Islam professors told us that 'Allah was the pre-Islamic word for God. There is little evidence for Christian religious language before Muhammad since they left no Bible translations from the time, but 'Abdullah (servant of 'Allah) was a Christian baptism name at the time, given to people at their baptism. Apparently, a servant named "Abdullah was a Christian who introduced the gospel to the Arabs before Muhammad's time.

I also heard a licensed tour guide talk about a Christian inscription that mentioned 'Allah dated before Muhammad, but I have not read about it in a book.

The name 'Allah shows up in a number of Indonesian church and denomination names in Indonesia.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Christians in some Muslim countries call God 'Allah.'

Maybe. But the Allah of the Qu'ran is NOT the God of the Bible. We need to be perfectly clear on this, unlike Pope Francis.

 

[oyster67]

Our Christian Trinity is not "a god". It is "THE GOD". That is not an opinion. That is a universal and absolute fact.

 

[Demi777]

Allah is the male synonym to allat the moon goddes. Allah has nothing to do with Jesus or Jahovah.
Issa is Jesus in Arabic countries (Christians)

 

[ResidentAlien]

Some one the other day spoke to me that Allah is just another name for the same God as christianity.

I was surprised cos this was coming from a Christian, but it made me think what really separates that two.

I looked at a dvd on comparing Allah and Christ and the key thing is the Christian God IS Jesus and is a triune God.. where Allah is not triune... and Jesus is only a prophet (altho somehow still born of a virgin!)

But yes.. there seems a trend at least here in NZ to make Christian's and muslims 'one'.

I think it's coming from the Pope down to the masses

When a Muslim refers to "Allah," they're not referring to a generic "god." They mean the god of the Quaran. So Allah and the Christian God are definitely not the same.

You're right, Catholics ever since Vatican II have embraced Islam as equal with Christianity.

 

[presidente]

Allah is a name for God. That is true. However, Islam does not understand God the same as Christians do. And yes, there is a move by some Pentecostals and by the Roman Catholic organisation to merge Islam and Christianity. It is spiritual insanity, but these are the last days and anything is possible. Brian Houston has promoted the myth that Islam is one of the Abrahamic religions. Islam falsely claims that God's covenant promise was to Ishmael, not Isaac. God does not approve of a mass murdering paedophile as founder of a religion in His name. The Leopard still does not change its spots.

I looked up that accusation against Brian Houston (trying to remember who he was) and this article disagrees with that assertion.
https://www.christiantoday.com/arti...believes-god-and-allah-are-the-same/36423.htm

Pentecostals in Barna surveys tend to have adherents that actually believe evangelical doctrines of the faith. There was one that separated out Assemblies of God, a large Pentecostal denomination, and 'Pentecostals' into two categories and they came up as having the highest percentages of people that said, "I believe...." with the various doctrines. I have not encountered Pentecostals who thought Islam was okay in any church anywhere.

But I did kind of 'mess with' some Assemblies of God folks online by asking them if they supported missionaries in the 'Assemblies of Allah.' American A/G folks are not usually aware that 'Allah' is used in the name of the denomination in Indonesian. It's in the standard Bible translation there.