Is it OK if I eat your piece then? 
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How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church
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Were you from a family of brothers like i was? Food left unclaimed did not last a second.
Oyster, I'm afraid we are dealing with perfect perfection in the wisdom of scripture that can't be questioned.
There is no possibility at all that they could be mistaken, they have reached perfect knowledge in this doctrine and nothing can change that. They are no longer human, they are God's chosen perfection in the flesh!
There is no possibility at all that they could be mistaken, they have reached perfect knowledge in this doctrine and nothing can change that. They are no longer human, they are God's chosen perfection in the flesh!
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There is a way to help a 'perfectionist' see their error - shown them the error with clear irrefutable evidence.
EXAMPLE: 2 Peter 1:16-21
For we did not follow cleverly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty. For He received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to Him from the Majestic Glory, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” And we ourselves heard this voice from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.
We also have the word of the prophets as confirmed beyond doubt. And you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture comes from one’s own interpretation. For no such prophecy was ever brought forth by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
EXAMPLE: 2 Peter 1:16-21
For we did not follow cleverly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty. For He received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to Him from the Majestic Glory, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” And we ourselves heard this voice from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.
We also have the word of the prophets as confirmed beyond doubt. And you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture comes from one’s own interpretation. For no such prophecy was ever brought forth by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
We have agreed that we all need to humbly come to the Cross to be washed in the blood of the Lamb. Having done this...
Matthew
22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
22:39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Matthew
22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
22:39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
There are many things i would not speak on of any certainty as i would be in error if i did.
We are only covering the subject of His Second Coming - NOT the entire Scripture.
BUT, we must cover the entirety of Scripture in this One Subject - His Second Coming/Resurrection/Gathering
You mentioned 'gaps', which can occur if we reject or ignore or are uninformed of Scripture that fills in the gaps = AGREE
We are only covering the subject of His Second Coming - NOT the entire Scripture.
BUT, we must cover the entirety of Scripture in this One Subject - His Second Coming/Resurrection/Gathering
You mentioned 'gaps', which can occur if we reject or ignore or are uninformed of Scripture that fills in the gaps = AGREE
Here are your undeniable Proof Texts, and there are more, but you can start here.
Matthew chapter 24 is undeniable Proof Text
1 John 2 :18-19 agrees and is undeniable Proof Text
Daniel ch7 agrees and is undeniable Proof Text
1 Thess & 2 Thess ch2 agrees and is undeniable Proof Text
James chapter 5 agrees and is undeniable Proof Text
Matthew chapter 24 is undeniable Proof Text
1 John 2 :18-19 agrees and is undeniable Proof Text
Daniel ch7 agrees and is undeniable Proof Text
1 Thess & 2 Thess ch2 agrees and is undeniable Proof Text
James chapter 5 agrees and is undeniable Proof Text
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LOL, our definition of "proof" is worlds apart!
As long as Rev. 3:10 is in scripture the post-trib theory is under scrutiny.
As long as the Church is not mentioned one single time during the Great Tribulation, that theory is under scrutiny.
As long as those martyred during the Great Tribulation are not said to be Church saints going the tribulation, that theory is under scrutiny.
As long as Paul said that those at the resurrection are "caught away" that theory is under scrutiny.
Etc, ect, etc!
As long as Rev. 3:10 is in scripture the post-trib theory is under scrutiny.
As long as the Church is not mentioned one single time during the Great Tribulation, that theory is under scrutiny.
As long as those martyred during the Great Tribulation are not said to be Church saints going the tribulation, that theory is under scrutiny.
As long as Paul said that those at the resurrection are "caught away" that theory is under scrutiny.
Etc, ect, etc!
Your reasoning is not conducive to walking with the Lord in agreement.
All four sentences have error in them according to "it is written".
This is why i will always bring up the only platform that God accepts and commands whereby His Saints will find understanding -
Deut 4:1-2 , Prov 30:18-19 , Rev 22:18-19
All four sentences have error in them according to "it is written".
This is why i will always bring up the only platform that God accepts and commands whereby His Saints will find understanding -
Deut 4:1-2 , Prov 30:18-19 , Rev 22:18-19
Actually im not a spanker either…i try to take a softer gentler approach… and if that doesn’t work i say “Just stop it!”
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