"Christians must resist all COVID-19 restrictions. Here’s why"

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As far as our fight not being against flesh and blood goes...
"Doctor, that pill you want me to take is similar to another one that made me black out."
He yells, "Let me be the pharmacist!" I cower and give in.
Later I took half a pill and blacked out. 5 days later my head clears enough to realize that my wife had taken the kids and left.
A loud "thought" says, "She's gone and she's not coming back!" I believed it. I now realize that it was an evil spirit that I heard.
Not in my right mind, I take enough of my M-Eslon to kill 10 men.
I survived, albeit with an oxygen-deprivation brain injury.
This happened in February, 2000.

If I had only listened to the Lord and not the doctor...
 

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As far as our fight not being against flesh and blood goes...
"Doctor, that pill you want me to take is similar to another one that made me black out."
He yells, "Let me be the pharmacist!" I cower and give in.
Later I took half a pill and blacked out. 5 days later my head clears enough to realize that my wife had taken the kids and left.
A loud "thought" says, "She's gone and she's not coming back!" I believed it. I now realize that it was an evil spirit that I heard.
Not in my right mind, I take enough of my M-Eslon to kill 10 men.
I survived, albeit with an oxygen-deprivation brain injury.
This happened in February, 2000.

If I had only listened to the Lord and not the doctor...
I am sorry to hear that happened to you...

Some 128,000 Americans a year now die from the effects of medications prescribed to them.
This number doesn’t include overdose deaths—only people who took their drugs as prescribed.


Prescription drugs have become the fourth leading cause of death in the U.S. They kill
more Americans than breast cancer, prostate cancer, homicide, and suicide combined.


Since 2013, more than 8,000 faulty drugs have been pulled from the market. source
 

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What solution will you choose for salvation? That which is in their needle, or that which flowed from the precious body of Jesus?
 

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What solution will you choose for salvation? That which is in their needle, or that which flowed from the precious body of Jesus?
Which medication do doctors promise offers life ever after? I have not heard of it :unsure:
 
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I am sorry to hear that happened to you...

Some 128,000 Americans a year now die from the effects of medications prescribed to them.
This number doesn’t include overdose deaths—only people who took their drugs as prescribed.


Prescription drugs have become the fourth leading cause of death in the U.S. They kill
more Americans than breast cancer, prostate cancer, homicide, and suicide combined.


Since 2013, more than 8,000 faulty drugs have been pulled from the market. source
Thank you. Medicine has it's place...but the Lord is God!
 

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I have strong convictions, but please forgive if I forcibly try to project them onto someone else. Conviction and vision must be prayed down from above.

2 Kings 6:17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain [was] full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.
 

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I'll will continue with my opinion and will encourage everyone to get vaccinated believing it is the Christ-like thing to do to protect those around us.
1. Marci, the first thing to know about GENUINE VACCINES is that they do not protect everyone else. They simply protect you by giving YOU immunity. If you doubt that consult any textbook on immunology published before 2020.

2. The next thing you should know is that had the medical establishment vigorously promoted the use of ivermectin and the HCQ combo pack (very cheap and very effective remedies) THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR ANY BOGUS VACCINES, hospitalizations, ICUs, intubations, ventilators, and all this other paraphernalia, which is reaping millions of dollars for China and the medical establishment.

3. The third thing you should know is that Christ excoriated the hypocrites publicly. So what He would have done is spoken out against the steady stream of lies coming from the highest offices of the land, and called them all liars to their faces. Absolutely everyone has been lying through their teeth about the COVID Scamdemic.

So who is responsible for this bogus narrative about vaccines? Big Pharma has the governments and public health agencies in their pockets. And there are literally billions (perhaps trillions) of dollars to be made with this scam. The fraudsters are counting on naive people like you to carry on with their lies.
 
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Through it all, I must say, "Thank You, Lord, that I am alive today and that I believe in Yeshua and His atonement for my sin. That I don't have to be destroyed because of it. Thank You that in the end, I'll get to spend eternity with You and all my brothers and sisters!"
This is the day that the Lord has made...we will rejoice and be glad in it! - Psalm 118:24
 

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I believe Christ's message when he said "render those things unto Caesar, which are Caesar's" was a message that religion and government are not enemies. Rather, we should obey our leaders. I never forget that we elect our leaders in this country. They are not dictators, but public servants.
My body belongs to neither Julius nor Joe.
vaccine mandates are the result of the best wisdom available in this country.
Now that,... I can believe. I search for a better country
are the best defense we currently have at preventing death and serious illness from Covid 19.
God have mercy on us then. I am just a little curious about something. Who are you referring to when you say "we"?
 

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"…17If the God whom we serve exists, then He is able to deliver us from the blazing fiery furnace and from your hand, O king. 18But even if He does not, let it be known to you, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the golden statue you have set up.” - Daniel 3:17,18 BSB
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Whatever the 'BSB' is, it is a corrupted bible version.

The proper interpretation of verse 17 does not put into doubt the existence of God; rather, it is [essentially] saying "if God be willing"...

Daniel 3:

17 If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king. 18 But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.
 
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It's the Berean Study bible...I use many different translations as I find I can get a better view of what is meant. None of them are perfect.
Obviously, they believed in the Lord. I picked this one off of Bible Hub. I admit that this verse isn't their finest hour.
 
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New International Version
If we are thrown into the blazing furnace, the God we serve is able to deliver us from it, and he will deliver us from Your Majesty’s hand.
Daniel 3:17 NIV
 

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The vaccines are not perfect, but are the best defense we currently have at preventing death and serious illness from Covid 19.
This is blatantly and patently FALSE.

Renowned virologist warns of ‘collapse of our health system’ due to complications from COVID vaccines

"A renowned virologist and former senior officer of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation recently warned against the dangers of the experimental COVID-19 gene-transfer vaccines, encouraged the un-jabbed to “stay unvaccinated,” and predicted an inevitable “collapse of our health system” due to health complications in the vaccinated."

https://christianchat.com/christian...ctions-here’s-why.199215/page-20#post-4717597

His conclusion is solid. Spike proteins generated by mRNA vaccines literally destroy the immune system. At the same time they produces extremely dangerous adverse effects and deaths.
 

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Absolutely everyone has been lying through their teeth about the COVID Scamdemic.
"Also, someone has produced a very nice short video proving that everything the public has been told about the COVID-19 shots has been a lie, with words directly from their own mouths, including Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, Rochelle Walensky, and Joe Biden where months ago they were all claiming that these “vaccines” protected everyone, but now are stating the exact opposite, while Bill Gates and Big Pharma rake in $BILLIONS."

Here's the article:
British Biomedical Scientist: FRAUD and Crimes Against Humanity Enabled by Virology’s Unscientific Voodoo Scientism
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/b...d-by-virologys-unscientific-voodoo-scientism/
 
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The beast, antichrist, New Age Christ is the most arrogant person in human history for he is controlled by the devil and wants total control of all people and rule the world a task that has never been done before.

But how can he accomplish that.

It will be by a microchip linked to satellite like a human GPS tracking system and no person can buy or sell anything without the chip as all financial transactions are done electronically.

That is where the coronavirus comes in.

They are using the coronavirus as an excuse to be able to administer a chip to identify who has been vaccinated.

Eventually no person will be able to travel, enter a store, go to work, and such places unless they have a vaccination card.

But a vaccination card can be lost and then the vaccinated cannot supply their needs, and can be falsified which the unvaccinated can be out in public among the vaccinated.

So they will go to a chip to identify who has been vaccinated and the chip the only way they can purchase anything which they need their needs, and they hope that it will motivate the unvaccinated to get the vaccination and get the chip.

That is why they want all people to get vaccinated even babies for they want all people to be chipped for if they are vaccinated then they hope they will take the chip.

Also they do not believe the New Age Christ will help them to achieve peace on earth until the nations come together as one to try to work for peace on earth which they hope the coronavirus will tie the nations together with the battle to fight against the coronavirus and develop in to a much more united world.

They will keep saying there is worse and worse virus variants to scare the people in to getting the chip.

This is all of the devil as he sets the world up for the New Age Christ to cause the nations to come together, and to have total control of people so he can cause them to rebel against God which we do not fight against flesh and blood but against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The coronavirus is all part of the plan and how can it not be for we are in the end time close to Jesus coming back so it is all deception from this point forward as they go about setting up the world for the appearing of the New Age Christ which they believe they will then have peace on earth and evolve to be spiritual.

The war the great tribulation will be the world against the people who will not get vaccinated and they will not take the chip for then they are the enemy which at that time it will only be Christians that refuse the chip for all other people will be given strong delusion to follow the New Age Christ.

The vaccination is not the mark of the beast but will lead to that which Christians who were vaccinated will deny the chip for they will not worship the beast and follow his agenda that there is no personal God and Jesus is not Lord and not keep up with their vaccination shots and be labeled with the unvaccinated.

The war is coming between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated and it is known as the great tribulation but it is still over three and one half years away which the hatred towards the unvaccinated will build and build until they explode on the unvaccinated labeling them as a disease that they must get rid of so there is harmony on earth like the body fights diseases in the body so the body will function properly.

It is finally here, after all these years it is finally here.
 
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The beast, antichrist, New Age Christ is the most arrogant person in human history for he is controlled by the devil and wants total control of all people and rule the world a task that has never been done before.

But how can he accomplish that.

It will be by a microchip linked to satellite like a human GPS tracking system and no person can buy or sell anything without the chip as all financial transactions are done electronically.

That is where the coronavirus comes in.

They are using the coronavirus as an excuse to be able to administer a chip to identify who has been vaccinated.

Eventually no person will be able to travel, enter a store, go to work, and such places unless they have a vaccination card.

But a vaccination card can be lost and then the vaccinated cannot supply their needs, and can be falsified which the unvaccinated can be out in public among the vaccinated.

So they will go to a chip to identify who has been vaccinated and the chip the only way they can purchase anything which they need their needs, and they hope that it will motivate the unvaccinated to get the vaccination and get the chip.

That is why they want all people to get vaccinated even babies for they want all people to be chipped for if they are vaccinated then they hope they will take the chip.

Also they do not believe the New Age Christ will help them to achieve peace on earth until the nations come together as one to try to work for peace on earth which they hope the coronavirus will tie the nations together with the battle to fight against the coronavirus and develop in to a much more united world.

They will keep saying there is worse and worse virus variants to scare the people in to getting the chip.

This is all of the devil as he sets the world up for the New Age Christ to cause the nations to come together, and to have total control of people so he can cause them to rebel against God which we do not fight against flesh and blood but against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The coronavirus is all part of the plan and how can it not be for we are in the end time close to Jesus coming back so it is all deception from this point forward as they go about setting up the world for the appearing of the New Age Christ which they believe they will then have peace on earth and evolve to be spiritual.

The war the great tribulation will be the world against the people who will not get vaccinated and they will not take the chip for then they are the enemy which at that time it will only be Christians that refuse the chip for all other people will be given strong delusion to follow the New Age Christ.

The vaccination is not the mark of the beast but will lead to that which Christians who were vaccinated will deny the chip for they will not worship the beast and follow his agenda that there is no personal God and Jesus is not Lord and not keep up with their vaccination shots and be labeled with the unvaccinated.

The war is coming between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated and it is known as the great tribulation but it is still over three and one half years away which the hatred towards the unvaccinated will build and build until they explode on the unvaccinated labeling them as a disease that they must get rid of so there is harmony on earth like the body fights diseases in the body so the body will function properly.

It is finally here, after all these years it is finally here.
mark of the beast is spiritual and only nonelects will receive it.

-The Seal of the Holy Spirit of promise that is only given to God's elects (Ephesians 1:13; Ephesians 4:30; II Corinthians 1:21-22; II Timothy 2:19, Revelation 7:3-4)
https://www.gotquestions.org/calvinism.html

John 10:28-29 King James Version

28 And I (Jesus) give unto them eternal life; and they (God's elects) shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Also read Romans 8:38-39

It's impossible for God's elects to receive the mark of the beast.
 
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mark of the beast is spiritual and only nonelects will receive it.

-The Seal of the Holy Spirit of promise that is only given to God's elects (Ephesians 1:13; Ephesians 4:30; II Corinthians 1:21-22; II Timothy 2:19, Revelation 7:3-4)
https://www.gotquestions.org/calvinism.html

John 10:28-29 King James Version

28 And I (Jesus) give unto them eternal life; and they (God's elects) shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Also read Romans 8:38-39

It's impossible for God's elects to receive the mark of the beast.
That is why I said that those who take the vaccination will resist the mark of the beast for they will not worship the beast and will not go along with his agenda for they will not be deceived.

So I am saying the Christians will not take the mark of the beast.

The mark of the beast is not spiritual but a physical device under the skin.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

The mark of the beast is placed under something for it is to stick, prick, incised, or punched which it is given to a person so it is placed under the skin of a person.

And it is for identification of the person for it is recognition of ownership which all information will be on the chip including that they have been vaccinated.

The beast's agenda is that there is no personal God to help mankind but they can achieve peace and harmony on earth by their technology and devices.

The microchip will be linked to satellite like a human GPS tracking system, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the location and how close they were to the crime scene, and can find lost people, or whoever they want to locate.

The mark of the beast is not spiritual but a physical device but it is spiritual that they do not have salvation if they take the mark of the beast.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

This does not sound spiritual to me when the false prophet causes the people to take the mark, and it is in their right hand or forehead so it has to be a physical device, and no man can buy or sell without the device which makes sense if it is a microchip like we use a debit card to make purchases but the mark will be under their skin.

The mark is not spiritual but a physical device.

Definition of mark.

charagma
khar'-ag-mah
From the same as G5482; a scratch or etching, that is, stamp (as a badge of servitude), or sculptured figure (statue): - graven, mark.

charax
khar'-ax
From “charasso” (to sharpen to a point; akin to G1125 through the idea of scratching); a stake, that is, (by implication) a palisade or rampart (millitary mound for circumvallation in a siege): - trench.

This does not seem spiritual to me but something physical.
 
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For many, fear hath torment.

Jeremiah told the king of Judah to go willingly with the king of Babylon into captivity. It’s amazing how many Christian’s today would resist such a notion, just like they did then. Saying, “It’s our constitutional right” to stay in the country that God gave us. When we were born again, we ceased from being a child of this world and was born again into another world.

What rights do we have now?

“If my people were of this world, they would fight”

So, why are we still fighting as if we have a constitutional right, now that we are born again into another kingdom with a whole new set of freedoms that are not earthy?

If you believe you have rights under the charter, then you should question whether you truly believe that you are in the kingdom of God.
 

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Yes, exactly. Thank you for always being a voice of reason here. I believe we need more measured responses such as yours.
Thanks, that means a lot and I feel the same about your responses on this site, as well.
What really tipped me off was this, and I paraphrase, "All people who take the vaccine and wear a mask will take the mark of the beast and go to the lake of fire." That's a bit too extreme for me and seems to invoke a spirit of fear and panic. What if people actually believe that because they wore a mask that they'll end up at the second death?
Yeah, it was way too extreme of a statement. We are not to promote fear and panic and condemn others to hell. We are to promote faith and hope in Jesus Christ our Savior. We should be a light and a witness.

Someone has to be here to reassure people that the mask, vaccine, and other restrictions are not the literal mark of the beast. Yes totally agree that it looks like the world is being prepped for the great tribulation. However, I don't have any proof of this, but I feel led to say this: many Christians are suffering now as part of a training to be strong in the great tribulation and possibly lead others.
Completely agree. I'm confident your thoughts and statement here are from the Lord.
 

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Whatever the 'BSB' is, it is a corrupted bible version.

The proper interpretation of verse 17 does not put into doubt the existence of God; rather, it is [essentially] saying "if God be willing"...

Daniel 3:

17 If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king. 18 But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.
:eek:

I put an award/winner symbol on it and didn't even realize how it was worded....o_O:oops:

Might be because I have read the King James so much that my mind just automatically switches any translation back into the KJV...lol:giggle: