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1John

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God Bless you as well. Thank you.

Praise the Lord, that He got you saved before it was too late. There will come a day, soon, that it will be too late for people, and thank God it wasn't for you! I say this to all people who FINALLY trust in the Lord!
 
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How is food and breathing or sleeping the same as a vaccine? or a mark? because it says you MUST resist the mark or land up in the lake of fire, but it does NOT say that about breathing or sleeping. I mean this IS the precursor for the mark!! This is GREAT practice, God always let's His people know what is going to happen and allows us to prepare before anything drastic, that IS what the Bible is.
You said if people take a vaccine or wear a mask that it's a sure thing they'll take a mark of the beast. I'm just showing you that that line of thinking is false. There's a major difference between denying faith and taking a vaccine. Do you see that?
 

1ofthem

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You said if people take a vaccine or wear a mask that it's a sure thing they'll take a mark of the beast. I'm just showing you that that line of thinking is false. There's a major difference between denying faith and taking a vaccine. Do you see that?
I agree. Wearing a mask and taking a vaccine isn't the same as falling down and worshipping the beast and taking his mark.

I haven't taken the vax but most of my family have. They are good Christians so I cannot even imagine that just because they took the vax that means they will take the mark and fall down and worship the beast.

However, I do think the pandemic and vax mandates are preparing the way for the mark. Many people are afraid of sickness and death and are putting their faith in the government and man to save them. That's how the enemy works. He will slowly get you to take your eyes off the Lord and rock you to sleep little by little, and if we listen to him and aren't careful we can drift far away from the Lord and his protection.

We know the end is coming, and we know it is going to be tribulation like never before seen. We have already been warned and know that we must be prepared to suffer in this world to reign with Him in the next. We need to be rooted in the Word and be prepared to stand on his Word come what may.

But yeah, I agree. Wearing a mask and taking a vax doesn't mean that people will take that as far as taking the mark of the beast and falling down and worshipping him. People should not even judge their brothers and sisters so harshly because in saying nonsense like that they are condemning others who have taken the vax as reprobates and bringing division in the body of Christ.

This is not the time for that foolishness. This is the time to try to help our brothers and sisters and come together in his Love and his Holy name.

The harvest is ripe but the laborers are few. Now is the time that Christians need to come together to help one another and witness to the lost... not try to pluck them up and cast them out.
 

1ofthem

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Praise the Lord, that He got you saved before it was too late. There will come a day, soon, that it will be too late for people, and thank God it wasn't for you! I say this to all people who FINALLY trust in the Lord!
The harvest is plenteous but the laborers are few. It is high time that the body of Christ come together and work and witness for Him.
 
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I think persecution will be the only thing that will bring us together...unfortunately.
 
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I agree. Wearing a mask and taking a vaccine isn't the same as falling down and worshipping the beast and taking his mark.

I haven't taken the vax but most of my family have. They are good Christians so I cannot even imagine that just because they took the vax that means they will take the mark and fall down and worship the beast.

However, I do think the pandemic and vax mandates are preparing the way for the mark. Many people are afraid of sickness and death and are putting their faith in the government and man to save them. That's how the enemy works. He will slowly get you to take your eyes off the Lord and rock you to sleep little by little, and if we listen to him and aren't careful we can drift far away from the Lord and his protection.

We know the end is coming, and we know it is going to be tribulation like never before seen. We have already been warned and know that we must be prepared to suffer in this world to reign with Him in the next. We need to be rooted in the Word and be prepared to stand on his Word come what may.

But yeah, I agree. Wearing a mask and taking a vax doesn't mean that people will take that as far as taking the mark of the beast and falling down and worshipping him. People should not even judge their brothers and sisters so harshly because in saying nonsense like that they are condemning others who have taken the vax as reprobates and bringing division in the body of Christ.

This is not the time for that foolishness. This is the time to try to help our brothers and sisters and come together in his Love and his Holy name.

The harvest is ripe but the laborers are few. Now is the time that Christians need to come together to help one another and witness to the lost... not try to pluck them up and cast them out.
Yes, exactly. Thank you for always being a voice of reason here. I believe we need more measured responses such as yours.

What really tipped me off was this, and I paraphrase, "All people who take the vaccine and wear a mask will take the mark of the beast and go to the lake of fire." That's a bit too extreme for me and seems to invoke a spirit of fear and panic. What if people actually believe that because they wore a mask that they'll end up at the second death?

Someone has to be here to reassure people that the mask, vaccine, and other restrictions are not the literal mark of the beast. Yes totally agree that it looks like the world is being prepped for the great tribulation. However, I don't have any proof of this, but I feel led to say this: many Christians are suffering now as part of a training to be strong in the great tribulation and possibly lead others.
 

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It has been common knowledge among the professionals that VAERS may only be reporting 1% of the actual numbers. You could be generous and say 10%.

"Adverse events from drugs and vaccines are common, but underreported. Although 25% of ambulatory patients experience an adverse drug event, less than 0.3% of all adverse drug events and 1-13% of serious events are reported to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Likewise, fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported."
https://digital.ahrq.gov/sites/defa...ion/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-2011.pdf
Minor events may be underreported. However, I believe most major events like deaths are reported. Your source is simply mistaken.
 
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Yes, exactly. Thank you for always being a voice of reason here. I believe we need more measured responses such as yours.

What really tipped me off was this, and I paraphrase, "All people who take the vaccine and wear a mask will take the mark of the beast and go to the lake of fire." That's a bit too extreme for me and seems to invoke a spirit of fear and panic. What if people actually believe that because they wore a mask that they'll end up at the second death?

Someone has to be here to reassure people that the mask, vaccine, and other restrictions are not the literal mark of the beast. Yes totally agree that it looks like the world is being prepped for the great tribulation. However, I don't have any proof of this, but I feel led to say this: many Christians are suffering now as part of a training to be strong in the great tribulation and possibly lead others.
In my opinion, your last statement is of the Lord.
 

marciwhite

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Why resort to any "vaccine" when cheap and very effective ivermectin will kill the virus and restore the patient's health? The HCQ combo pack is equally good, and there are no adverse effects. The "high risk" is actually in getting injected with LETHAL AND TOXIC substances. And no one will be held accountable for medical murder and fraud.
Another statement that is totally untrue. Ivermectin is a horse de-worming medication not approved by the FDA for treatment of Covid 19.
 

Magenta

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it is Biblical to NOT take it...you MUST not take it...God says NO!!!!


Jeremiah 17:5-9

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5 This is what the Lord says:
“Cursed is the one who trusts in man,
who draws strength from mere flesh
and whose heart turns away from the Lord.
6 That person will be like a bush in the wastelands;
they will not see prosperity when it comes.
They will dwell in the parched places of the desert,
in a salt land where no one lives.
7 “But blessed is the one who trusts in the Lord,
whose confidence is in him.
8 They will be like a tree planted by the water
that sends out its roots by the stream.
It does not fear when heat comes;
its leaves are always green.
It has no worries in a year of drought
and never fails to bear fruit.”
9 The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?


Also, He says NOT to get tattoos and what is a tattoo? It is a bunch of needles going into your skin!! What is the difference between ONE needle and thousands?? We shall get NOTHING on or in our bodies!!! God says NO NO NO NO NO!!!!

16 Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst? 17 If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred, and you together are that temple.

12 “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but I will not be mastered by anything. 13 You say, “Food for the stomach and the stomach for food, and God will destroy them both.” The body, however, is not meant for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14 By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”[b] 17 But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit.[c]




Why would God need us to get a vaccine?? Don't you think if He wanted us to be alive He would keep us alive?? Aren't we supposed to be alive in Christ?? To die is for the Lord and to live is for the Lord...1 John 4:18 18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

If you are afraid to die, then you WILL go to hell, because most people are "afraid" to die either because they NEVER truly trusted in Christ, or B. because they want to stay in this world and we are NOT to love this world or the things in this world that is in 1 John as well....just saying do NOT tell people it is NOT Biblical because it is VERY Biblical NOT to get it!! We should be focusing on the word NOT the world, and getting people to STOP sinning!! The people who take the shot ARE going to die....

trunews.com is a great way to get the Christian truth. I do NOT agree with everyone but ask God ALWAYS who is correct and who is wrong....Jesus is coming and it is because people are continuing to live in sin when we ARE supposed to STOP sinning and be Holy because God is Holy!! Will we sin, of course, but we should NOT do it on purpose!!! Especially in the Body....but the problem is NOBODY is focused on God anymore, EVERYONE focused on their phones and in Fakebook and social media, and NOBODY gives God the time of day. They ONLY pray when they need something and NEVER gives Him the credit, or they stop after they get what they want. We have all caved into the government and NOW Jesus is coming, NOBODY tells other people about Jesus and are more concerned what people think of them, they are the no judging mentality when they refuse to rebuke and correct sin. These churches have their own doctrine when Paul said if anyone speaks any other doctrine than the one we gave then you should run...I am paraphrasing, but still we are the reason people are dying!! The "christians" these days are COWARDs.....and Revelation 21:8 says who will enter the lake of fire and if you notice unbelievers are their own category, so that means that the other categories are the believers still living that way. the Liars, Cowards, Sexually Immoral, Witchcraft people, Idolaters, and ALL those categories are the BELIEVERS who WILL enter the lake of fire. James 2:19 says you believe in one God good for you even the demons believe and shutter. So people that are "christians' Are goin to hell......time to wake up....
According to your line of reasoning, you are a cowardly Christian bound for hell if you have ever seen a doctor.
 
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I believe the Covid virus was introduced to bring about vaccination cards, etc., as part of a prearranged process that will lead to a cashless society where one must have a number to buy and sell. Aka, the mark of the beast. I find it difficult, at times, to fathom that we are where we are, but every time I think through the facts that I know, I arrive at the same conclusion. We are in for some rough times.
 

Magenta

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I believe the Covid virus was introduced to bring about vaccination cards, etc., as part of a prearranged process that will lead to a cashless society where one must have a number to buy and sell. Aka, the mark of the beast. I find it difficult, at times, to fathom that we are where we are, but every time I think through the facts that I know, I arrive at the same conclusion. We are in for some rough times.
We were already in some respects a cashless society, using bank cards for many financial transactions, and banking by phone using account numbers and pin numbers. I wonder if Christians ran around crying about the mark of the beast when credit cards were introduced over fifty years ago. If I were a betting person, I would bet they did.
 
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I see what I see, I say what I say, come what may!
I am on the road...to my home...in the New Jerusalem! and you can't stop me!
 

Magenta

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a number to buy and sell. Aka, the mark of the beast.
PS~ the mark of the beast is identified as a man. Not a bank card, or vaccine.

"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."
(Rev 13:18)


PPS~ I hope 1John has never so much as taken an aspirin! It would
make her a cowardly Christian bound for hell (according to her).
 
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Oblio

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666 is a man? I'm talking about a mark on one's right hand or forehead. Time will tell.
 
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Oblio

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PS~ the mark of the beast is identified as a man. Not a bank card, or vaccine.

"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."
(Rev 13:18)


PPS~ I hope 1John has never so much as taken an aspirin! It would
make her a cowardly Christian bound for hell (according to her).
Sorry, on post 373 I said "you" when I should've said "no one." I must keep my lyrics consistent.
 

oyster67

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You said if people take a vaccine or wear a mask that it's a sure thing they'll take a mark of the beast. I'm just showing you that that line of thinking is false. There's a major difference between denying faith and taking a vaccine. Do you see that?
The thought has crossed my mind also, and I'm not so sure it is false. I don't want to condemn or frighten anyone who has taken the shot, but I don't trust in the "wisdom" of the fickle powers that be either. We are the children of the almighty King. What need have we of their pins and needles? My physician is Dr. God.
 

Magenta

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666 is a man? I'm talking about a mark on one's right hand or forehead. Time will tell.
Not everyone believes the mark of the beast on the hand and forehead are literal devices
or marks such as computer chips, vaccines, implants, bank cards, or anything similar, and
there are Scriptural reasons to believe they are not... much in the same way we would not
accept that just because people were trying to build the tower of Babel meant we think
they could have actually reached God that way, through their human means and/or effort,
or that the laws written on our hearts are literally etched/chiseled there.

The forehead very much represents a person's thinking and beliefs, out of which arise
the actions anyone takes and the things we do and what we serve with our hands.


Revelation 14:1 says, Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion,
and with him 144, 000 who had His name and His Father's name written on their foreheads.

Revelation 22:4 says: They will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads.

I believe the mark is meant to be symbolic of to Whom we have pledged our allegiance.

Deuteronomy 11:18 Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds;
tie them as reminders on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

Deuteronomy 6:5-8 Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

Hebrews 10:16 “This is the covenant I will make with them after those days,
declares the Lord. I will put My laws in their hearts and inscribe them on their minds.”


:)
 

Magenta

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The thought has crossed my mind also, and I'm not so sure it is false. I don't want to condemn or frighten anyone who has taken the shot, but I don't trust in the "wisdom" of the fickle powers that be either. We are the children of the almighty King. What need have we of their pins and needles? My physician is Dr. God.
Have you never seen a doctor nor taken any meds or even an aspirin? Lucky you! :D
 

oyster67

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and I paraphrase, "All people who take the vaccine and wear a mask will take the mark of the beast and go to the lake of fire."
Maybe not so wise to paraphrase other people's posts just to bend and spin things in your preferred direction.