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PennEd

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Most of you know I voted for, and GREATLY wanted Trump to win. And I am CERTAIN the election was stolen.

However, NO ONE gets to be the most powerful man on Earth without the blessing of the Global elite. I gave Trump the benefit of the doubt in regards to developing and promoting the vaccine. I thought maybe he truly didn't know the evil he was pushing. After all, he was spectacular in so many other ways in his presidency.

I think the jury is in, and unfortunately, he appears to be part of the scheme.

This whole video is excellent, but to see Trump's complicity, just watch a minute or 2 starting at 9:30 mark.

https://beforeitsnews.com/alternati...e-who-are-killing-humanity-video-3761634.html


Also there's this:
5 times Donald Trump encouraged his supporters to receive mRNA or viral vector DNA injections since leaving the White House
https://thecovidblog.com/2021/11/30...tor-dna-injections-since-leaving-white-house/
 

ZNP

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Most of you know I voted for, and GREATLY wanted Trump to win. And I am CERTAIN the election was stolen.

However, NO ONE gets to be the most powerful man on Earth without the blessing of the Global elite. I gave Trump the benefit of the doubt in regards to developing and promoting the vaccine. I thought maybe he truly didn't know the evil he was pushing. After all, he was spectacular in so many other ways in his presidency.

I think the jury is in, and unfortunately, he appears to be part of the scheme.

This whole video is excellent, but to see Trump's complicity, just watch a minute or 2 starting at 9:30 mark.

https://beforeitsnews.com/alternati...e-who-are-killing-humanity-video-3761634.html


Also there's this:
5 times Donald Trump encouraged his supporters to receive mRNA or viral vector DNA injections since leaving the White House
https://thecovidblog.com/2021/11/30...tor-dna-injections-since-leaving-white-house/
There are several things that are undeniable facts concerning Trump.

1. Trump tower in NYC is a pagan temple to the God Baal.

2. The term MAGA is a FreeMason term.

3. Trump has creepy photographs of him giving FreeMason hand signals.

4. There is nothing about Trump's life that suggests sanctified and holy.

5. His election was totally remarkable and surprising and does seem to be impossible without the blessing of these evil elites.

So then what is the strategy?

1. Build up the trust and support of Evangelical Christians who would be the ones most likely to reject the vaccine mandate. This suggests that the vaccine mandate was the goal all along and everything else is simply window dressing.

2. Divide and conquer. This is a standard strategy of the elite. They represent 1% of the world's population so the only way to control the 99% is to divide and conquer. Many of Trump's tweets and comments were totally idiotic unless this was the goal. Look at everything that has happened, identify the Trump supporters as domestic terrorists, racists, white supremacists, and the focus of attack.

This raises some very serious questions.

1. The Mueller investigation which led to the Durham investigation and the FISA scandal has the potential to bring down the entire US government.

2. The election integrity has the potential to bring down the entire US government.

3. The border crisis, the manufactured scarcity with ships lined up at our ports, the vaccine mandate, the inflation, the runaway spending, everything seems to be designed to destroy this country and the government.

The elites are not fighting over control of the US, they are fighting to destroy the US. Democracy, freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, these things threaten the full control of the elites. The billionaire club and the elites are far more comfortable with a totalitarian state like China or Russia. They are composed of kings, queens, and dictators. The only thing stopping one world government is the US, hence they have worked to destroy it.

As a result the Trump presidency and this last year has been a major distraction to keep our eyes on everything but the real danger which is an imminent attack from Russia. Think of WWII, Hitler was financed by the elites because they saw Russia communism as the biggest threat to their kingdom. Now they see the US as the biggest threat to their one world government so they are going to finance Russia to attack. After Chernobyl Russia was a basket case, what happened? They have done everything they could to create a "Russian miracle" just as Germany had a "German miracle" financed by the Rothschilds, etc.
 

ZNP

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If it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

24 But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.”

The strategy of the evil one is to divide and conquer. Imagine the church is composed of many different saints, all with different gifts, different ministries and some are focused on "driving out demons". They expose lies, corruption, and crimes. They use the law courts, they are involved in fighting against abortion, or election fraud, or political crime families. Satan would have you believe that everything they accomplish is actually his doing. He does nothing but takes credit for everything. But that in turn could cause you to question everything.

25 Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand.

Once again, the strategy of Satan is to divide and conquer because this will ruin the church, ruin the kingdom of God. During the protestant revolution the church was divided. Then with the ecumenical movement there was an effort to unite all the different factions. This ecumenical movement involved compromise. They compromised repeatedly with the word of God and the Bible. This is why we have LGBTQ priests, this is why they are wishy washy on a pro life stance, this is why they don't preach against sin, this is why they have allowed the prosperity gospel to proliferate, this is why we have the apostasy. Dividing the church and then compromising with sin in order to reunite the church is a strategy to ruin the church.

26 If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?

Now when the church stands up as salt and light it drives out Satan. It may appear that Satan is divided against himself as some corrupt court will find some corrupt elite guilty of sins. This is not a victory for Satan it is a defeat. If you watch a chess match one person will give up a pawn and yet it could result in an advantage for them. There are plays called "sacrifice" or "gambit". Yet in reality most times when you lose a piece it is a loss and not part of some great hidden strategy. The Lord Jesus and Satan are playing chess and Satan is losing. Satan is being driven out and yet he wants to claim that "no, no, this is part of my game winning strategy". Suppose you are Ghislaine Maxwell who has been involved in pedophilia and pagan worship and now you learn from your "god" that he is simply sacrificing you for the sake of some great strategy. That really stinks. In the Lord's kingdom Jesus sacrificed Himself for us. In Satan's kingdom he will sacrifice anyone and everyone to save his own skin. So when we drive out Satan it puts him into a no win situation, he doesn't want to admit it was a defeat that looks bad, on the other hand if he claims it is a victory all those who are being "sacrificed" may decide to double cross others and so Satan's kingdom cannot stand.

27 And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges.

This is what is happening right now. Miranda Devine published "The Laptop from Hell". It is sold out everywhere and you can only get it on backorder. This is not a "victory" for Satan, it is a major defeat. Durham is currently prosecuting the FISA warrant scandal. Again, not a victory for Satan, a major defeat. Various states are passing legislation to put a stop to abortion, again not a victory for Satan but a major defeat. We are exposing election fraud in the US, not a victory but defeat for Satan. His entire kingdom is collapsing like a house of cards. In the book of Revelation we see Russia make a major attack but lose only for Europe to emerge as the focus of this one world government. Where is the US? They are Babylon the Great and their judgement comes in an hour, they collapse like a house of cards, their destruction is like that of Sodom and Gomorrah. The elites finance Russia to take out the US and then to be destroyed leaving them in charge. But hey, what about China? The idea that China is a Superpower is based solely on the US being their customer. If a Fortune 500 company loses their biggest customer responsible for 50% of their orders the company is no longer a Fortune 500 company. When the US collapses and no one will buy China's goods anymore then China collapses with it as well.

The Antichrist setting up the one world government, the reformed Roman empire is not a sign that Satan is winning but that his kingdom on earth is collapsing. It is a restructuring deal that takes place after a bankruptcy.

In a chess game many of the moves are forced by the opponent. You basically have no good options. This is what is happening now because of all the corruption and incompetent actions of these world governments. The US is broke, 80% of China's water supply is polluted, crop yields are collapsing, we are on the brink of famine, and economic collapse. Right now they are desperate to get everyone "vaccinated" because it will give them much more control during the collapse. They'll be able to track you and maybe even kill you by simply turning up the 5G. If they can control whether or not you can buy or sell they can control you. They want social credit scores so they can punish anyone who does not obey.

28 But if it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

This is the big problem with the current situation. Satan likes to be in the shadows, hidden, so that no one can see him. It is like a snake or a scorpion. They are very effective if their attack is a surprise. However, if you can see them they are at a great disadvantage. We can easily stomp on a scorpion or kill a snake once we see it. Everything that he is doing is bringing him out into the open where the whole world can see their lies, theft and murders.
 
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Oblio

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I'll once Gain quote Trump, "The church is responsible for the shape of the country."
Things will get worse before they get better.
 

shittim

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I don't give up on President Trump, God can, always has and always will use anyone to further His plan to redeem mankind to Him.
 
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Oblio

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I have 3 heroes in this life...President Trump is one of them. And I'm not even an American.
Things will get better...eventually. In the mean time, my advice to myself and everyone else is...cling to Jesus! Our hiding place!
"God is our refuge and strength, an ever-present help in times of trouble." - Psalm 46:1b BSB
 

shittim

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If these disparaging things said about president trump were true God could and would still use him.
I recall one prophetic word from a trusted person that President Trump would "become" a praying man for his second term.
 
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If these disparaging things said about president trump were true God could and would still use him.
I recall one prophetic word from a trusted person that President Trump would "become" a praying man for his second term.
I recall one day early on in his presidency when I was watching a news clip where he was walking across the room. I believe the Holy Spirit spoke to me, "You are watching Trump finding God."
I never expected him to be a mature Christian. But an honest look at his record speaks for itself. I don't think we've seen the last of him. Time will tell.
 

Aidan1

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Will you be supporting mandatory vaccinations in Germany?

Der künftige Bundeskanzler Olaf Scholz fordert SPIEGEL-Informationen zufolge eine allgemeine Impfpflicht. Er pocht zudem
auf 30 Millionen Impfungen bis Weihnachten – und will dafür den Kreis der Impfenden erweitern.

https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deut...flicht-a-8aaefbff-506c-4dc5-86eb-1467ab971b95

Scholz said that compulsory vaccinations should be in place “when everyone has had a realistic chance to be double-vaccinated.”


From an English language source:

Germany, on Tuesday inched closer to mandatory coronavirus vaccines after incoming Chancellor Olaf Scholz
said they were necessary to contain a fierce fourth wave of the pandemic.

Following crisis talks with acting Chancellor Angela Merkel and the leaders of Germany’s 16 states,
Scholz said he wanted parliament to vote on the matter before the end of the year.
“Too many people have not got vaccinated,” Scholz told Bild television. Making jabs compulsory is justified “to protect us all”.
The compulsory vaccinations should be in force “in the beginning of February or March so we must move quickly now,”
Scholz said, promising that lawmakers would be allowed to vote according to their conscience.
Well, the icu's in germany running full.
The goal in this pandemie Was always that we will not come into the situation that we could not help those which need medical help.
Till now to less people take the vaccine.
To mandatory the vaccine is the last way.
But present the mayoriy of the chitzienship would support it.
There are reasons why people would not need to take the vaccine(health problems) and those would be respectet under a mandatory.
So i would support it. Of course!
 

gb9

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Well, the icu's in germany running full.
The goal in this pandemie Was always that we will not come into the situation that we could not help those which need medical help.
Till now to less people take the vaccine.
To mandatory the vaccine is the last way.
But present the mayoriy of the chitzienship would support it.
There are reasons why people would not need to take the vaccine(health problems) and those would be respectet under a mandatory.
So i would support it. Of course!

sure you would.

you are o k with cops in your country beating up protesters.

and. by the way, this is not about health care, it is about governments grabbing absolute control of their people.
 
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She gave a legitimate answer to


I would have to agree with you. but would also have to add that some of his answers barely qualify as answers.
It's a highly sensitive subject where People respond many times emotionally rather than rationally,

but getting the jab or not getting the jab GOD looks at the why,why a person got or didn't get the shot.

Did they get the shot because they were thinking about their neighbor,did they Not get the shot because they were thinking about their neighbor.

If they got the shot thinking about staying healthy and protecting others then GOD will honor that

and by the same token If they didn't get the shot because they genuinely feel that they are protecting society then GOD will honor that also.

nevertheless GOD IS greater than the virus and whether the person lives physically or dies they shouldn't fear death.
 
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If, and when, the Almighty changes His mind and tells me to get the jab, I will.
Until then...
 

Aidan1

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sure you would.

you are o k with cops in your country beating up protesters.

and. by the way, this is not about health care, it is about governments grabbing absolute control of their people.
Believe what you want, but dont tell me such a paranoid nonsense.
How should the government Grab absolute controle of their people?
I am not living in China or Northcorea.

Again show me this Video where policeman beating up peacfully demonstrantes.
 

gb9

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Believe what you want, but dont tell me such a paranoid nonsense.
How should the government Grab absolute controle of their people?
I am not living in China or Northcorea.

Again show me this Video where policeman beating up peacfully demonstrantes.

just do a youtube search of " german cops beating up protesters",

you can watch anyone of them you want,

there are many.
 
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