Jesus Came To Fulfill Not To Destroy

[TMS]

If Jesus could have removed the law that reveals sin...

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

..... If He could changed the law and change the results of breaking the law....

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death;

.... then why did He die on the cross for us? Why did He suffer the greatest pain for something that didn't need to be?

May i suggest that you think about this, the reason that Jesus paid our debt and suffered the cross was because the law of liberty is not a law that God will even change. This law is love and it's principles are about harmony in the universe. If the law is not active today and has been made void then we are free to be lawless and disobey without consequence (that is not grace).

Law -- Jesus -- grace

No law to reveal sin means no need for grace. Grace can not be given if you have not done anything wrong. If there is no law we can not do anything wrong.

I do not keep the law to be saved but keep the law because Jesus has 100% covered me with His grace. By grace i am saved.

 

[justbyfaith]

If the law is not active today and has been made void then we are free to be lawless and disobey without consequence (that is not grace).

Those who are in Christ are in fact free to be lawless and disobey without consequences;

However, those who have genuine faith in Christ will not do so because the love of the Lord has been shed abroad in their hearts (Romans 5:5), and this love, being not impractical (1 John 3:17-18) is the fulfilling of the law (Romans 13:8-10, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6; Romans 8:4).

Those who are not in Christ are under the law (Romans 3:19-20, Romans 6:14) and therefore the law condemns them when they sin.

But those who are in Christ are forgiven by Christ.

 

[studentoftheword]

Worth Repeating Folks from post above -----Take heed there TMS

Those who are not in Christ are under the law (Romans 3:19-20, Romans 6:14) and therefore the law condemns them when they sin.

But those who are in Christ are forgiven by Christ.

So TMS ----are you under the Law which requires NO Faith to keep -----just obedience or disobedience ---or are you under GRACE ----which requires no obedience to the Law ---but does Require Faith in the unseen Spiritual realm ----YOU decide ----which you are under ---You can;t be under Both -----

TMS ----The Laws were not given under Grace ----Grace is a fee gift ---we cannot earn Grace ----the 10 Commandments were not a free gift ---

-Salvation was a free Gift we did nothing to earn the Blessing that Salvation brings ----

Under The !O Commandments you had to earn either the Blessing OR THE Curse by obeying or by disobeying the laws ---that is nor Grace --You by your statement that the laws were given under grace says you are wrongly dividing the Word of God ---and You have no idea what GRACE really is ------

The Word clearly says -----You cannot serve 2 Masters ----you cannot serve the law and serve Grace who is Jesus ----the 10 commandments was an agreement between God and man ----

-Salvation is not an agreement between God and man ---Salvation is God's free GIFT TO MAN---Jesus paid the price ----we freely reap what Jesus made available to us ----that is Grace -----

I say ------- Israelite's actually ask God to give them rules and said they would follow them ------God knew they couldn't keep them but He gave them to show the Israelite's their sin and to show them they needed a Saviour to get them back in God's Graces to have eternal life ------The Israelite's made an idol of gold --they were getting drunk --having sex etc --they were disobedient and out of control and they said they would follow the rules God Gave them -------so they themselves ask for the laws ------

The Ten Commandments
5 Moses called together the people of Israel and said:

Today I am telling you the laws and teachings that you must follow, so listen carefully. 2 The Lord our God made an agreement with our nation at Mount Sinai.

I say ------So good luck with your Laws and having eternal life when you meet your Creator -----

 

[studentoftheword]

This is a a 2 and a half min demonstration video ---

Good -O-Meter ---who and how we get into heaven ------not by keeping the law ---but through Jesus ---

 

[justbyfaith]

Worth Repeating Folks from post above -----Take heed there TMS

Those who are not in Christ are under the law (Romans 3:19-20, Romans 6:14) and therefore the law condemns them when they sin.

But those who are in Christ are forgiven by Christ.

So TMS ----are you under the Law which requires NO Faith to keep -----just obedience or disobedience ---or are you under GRACE ----which requires no obedience to the Law ---but does Require Faith in the unseen Spiritual realm ----YOU decide ----which you are under ---You can;t be under Both -----

TMS ----The Laws were not given under Grace ----Grace is a fee gift ---we cannot earn Grace ----the 10 Commandments were not a free gift ---

-Salvation was a free Gift we did nothing to earn the Blessing that Salvation brings ----

Under The !O Commandments you had to earn either the Blessing OR THE Curse by obeying or by disobeying the laws ---that is nor Grace --You by your statement that the laws were given under grace says you are wrongly dividing the Word of God ---and You have no idea what GRACE really is ------

The Word clearly says -----You cannot serve 2 Masters ----you cannot serve the law and serve Grace who is Jesus ----the 10 commandments was an agreement between God and man ----

-Salvation is not an agreement between God and man ---Salvation is God's free GIFT TO MAN---Jesus paid the price ----we freely reap what Jesus made available to us ----that is Grace -----

I say ------- Israelite's actually ask God to give them rules and said they would follow them ------God knew they couldn't keep them but He gave them to show the Israelite's their sin and to show them they needed a Saviour to get them back in God's Graces to have eternal life ------The Israelite's made an idol of gold --they were getting drunk --having sex etc --they were disobedient and out of control and they said they would follow the rules God Gave them -------so they themselves ask for the laws ------

The Ten Commandments
5 Moses called together the people of Israel and said:

Today I am telling you the laws and teachings that you must follow, so listen carefully. 2 The Lord our God made an agreement with our nation at Mount Sinai.

I say ------So good luck with your Laws and having eternal life when you meet your Creator -----

It is not necessarily a departure from grace to be obedient to the laws of holy scripture.

It is only a departure from grace if you are seeking to be justified through your obedience.

But if you obey the commandments because you know that you know that you know that God has saved you; and you are thankful to Him; and you obey Him because you love Him (John 14:15, John 14:21, John 14:23, John 15:10); then there is no condemnation.

As a matter of fact, if we walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit, the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4) and also there is also no condemnation for us (Romans 8:1)

 

[BroTan]

He went away sorrowful. "verily I say unto you that a rich man shall hardly enter the kingdom of heaven ...."

25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? 26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

 

[BroTan]

@BroTan, all I can say to you is that you need to study the writings of Paul so that you may understand them as he intended for them to be understood.

You can indeed wrest his writings to your own destruction. An example of this is how you identify the law that he speaks of as being only the law about animal sacrifices when he is referring to the whole law.

You cannot be justified by keeping the law.

You can only be justified through faith in the blood of Christ.

If you have been justified through faith in the blood of Christ, there is also a sanctification that will take place; also through His blood (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29, 1 John 1:7) that will enable you to obey the Lord by walking not after the flesh but after the Spirit: so the righteousness of the law will be fulfilled in you (Romans 8:4).

There is no law that will condemn you if you bear the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23).

But if you are seeking to be justified by the law, it is clear that you are walking after the flesh; and therefore, the fact that you do not keep the law perfectly from conception into eternity will be your condemnation. Because that is what is required of those who are of the law (Galatians 3:10, James 2:10, Matthew 5:48). You are under a curse if you think that you are saved through your own law-keeping, works, or personal merits. You are required to obey the whole law perfectly from conception into eternity to be able to enter in that way (Galatians 3:10, James 2:10, Matthew 5:48).

You can indeed wrest these scriptures of Paul to your own destruction (while only one of them in the list was written by Paul).

So, I would encourage you to study these scriptures carefully to see what Paul really meant by them as he was inspired by the Holy Spirit to write them; and what the Holy Spirit means by them.

A homework project for you might be for you to seek what the Holy Spirit meant when Paul wrote Galatians 2:16 under His inspiration.

Because again, you may be able to wrest those scriptures to your own destruction. And, therefore, it is expedient for you to ask the Holy Ghost what He means by these scriptures and to abide in the understanding He gives you.

Do you have the guts to honestly ask Him what He means by them, is the question.

Because I am coming to you from the perspective of knowing what He means by them and what I have been telling you is His interpretation.

It is my prayer every night; and also every time before I get on the computer; that every word that comes off of my keyboard might be from the Holy Ghost.

It’s easy for people to say how much they love the Lord, they may be able to deceive man, but God knows the mind. Many profess they know God, but in their works they deny him everyday. Paul said in (Titus 1:16) They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him; being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. Yea, most people are talking about how they know God with their lips, but by they works they are doing something totally different. The Lord God commanded you to remember the Sabbath day (which is the seventh day of the week) to keep it holy and you deny him to his face by saying “I go to church on Sunday (the first day of the week) because Paul broke bread on Sunday”. There's no other day to go to church on, but what's written in the Bible. So people have been taught to do the things thats not written in the Bible and to use the Bible to justify it.

Paul said in (Gal. 6 (v.3) For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. (v.4) But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.

The book says let every man prove his own work, and if your work is good then you will rejoice in it. (v.5) For every man shall bear his own burden. That’s right; every man must bear his own burden. You mean you thought that all you had to do was confess the name of Jesus and that was it? Brothers and sisters you must work to get salvation. (v.7) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. God is not to be played with. Whatsoever you plant, that’s what you are going to reap. Be it good works unto eternal life, or evil works unto eternal damnation. The choice is yours, and your works belong to you.

He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. (Revelation 22: 11-15

Last book in the Bible and there are those wonderful Commandments again, which includes the Sabbath day on the seventh day of the week.

 

[justbyfaith]

The Lord God commanded you to remember the Sabbath day (which is the seventh day of the week) to keep it holy and you deny him to his face by saying “I go to church on Sunday (the first day of the week) because Paul broke bread on Sunday”. There's no other day to go to church on, but what's written in the Bible.

Rom 14:4, Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Rom 14:5, One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6, He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Notice that it does not specify Saturday as being the day that a man esteems above another; which provides for Sunday as being that day in certain perspectives.

But even if it were specifying Saturday, in verse 6 the one who does not regard it does not regard it to the Lord; and so his not regarding the day is sanctified.

Brothers and sisters you must work to get salvation. (v.7)

Eph 2:8, For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9, Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Rom 4:4, Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
Rom 4:5, But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Rom 4:6, Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
Rom 4:7, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
Rom 4:8, Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

Tit 3:4, But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Tit 3:5, Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6, Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Tit 3:7, That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Rom 11:5, Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Rom 11:6, And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

Whatsoever you plant, that’s what you are going to reap. Be it good works unto eternal life, or evil works unto eternal damnation. The choice is yours, and your works belong to you.

The seed that is planted is not good works but the word of the Lord (Romans 10:17, Luke 8:11).

 

[Phoneman-777]

You twist Hebrews 4 into meaning working at the law instead of entering Rest??? C'mon. No one is that dumb.

Hebrews 4:9-10 KJV plainly states that it's the duty of the people of God to keep the Sabbath day, the reason being that the man who has entered into Jesus' rest is to cease from his own works as God did from His. Of what kind of rest did God partake on the 7th day? Rest from literal work.

Then you twist 1 John 2:3-4 to be about the 10 commandments??? C'mon. Read the 2 verses before and after those 2 verses.

No, sir, it is you who needs to stop this futile attempt to make other verses take the edge off 1 John 2:3-4 KJV when those verses do no such thing, and accept the truth that is contained in them as they are written: that the man who claims to "love love love" Jesus but refuses to stop driving fresh iniquitous nails into His hands and feet is a liar who will split hell wide open because he doesn't know the first thing about Him or the salvation He offers.

Then you twist Galatians 3:10 to SOMEHOW be about salvation??? C'mon. Nowhere in Galatians 3 is the subject of salvation even hinted at.

Of course Galatians 3 is in condemnation of salvation by works, and not works altogether as you claim, because this same Paul says "we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works..." How asinine of Paul it would be to condemn works in his letter to the church in Galatia -- as you claim -- and then turn around and tell the Ephesus church that good works are foreordained.

What shows we have entered rest is working at the law in our own understanding and strength???

There you antinomianists go again, building straw man arguments by putting false ideas into the mouths of your opposition because you have no Scriptural footing upon which to stand. We Bible Christians believe to be eternally true what Jesus and Paul said when He said in Luke 17:10 KJV that doing all our Lord says to do is "unprofitable", and what Paul said in Romans 8:7 KJV that it's impossible for the carnal mind is not subject to the law of God even if it wanted to be.

It's time to put away your rebellion and keep the commandments Jesus spoke with His own voice and wrote with His own finger in stone, because if you hate the idea of keeping them now, what makes you think you'll be excited to keep them for all eternity with the rest of us who believe "every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God"???

 

[Phoneman-777]

I understand what you saying, but mine job is to preach the Gospel, because Jesus say in Matthew 24: 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Keep in mind it's not always the person that you speaking to who are the ones you edifying, it's those who are in silence. We are living in these last days and many are confuse, and some just give up. Sometime the case could be 1 out of 20 or more, that be edify. But also in the scripture it's written in Ezekiel 33: 7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me. 8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. 9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. 11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

Those brothers and Sisters that's keep God's Commandments, statues and Judgements, they'll have there job in the vineyard as well.

I have no doubt there are those seeking truth who observe in silence, and am grateful to God for the opportunity to expose error with the light of Spiritual truth, that they may discern right from wrong.

For too long, these false pulpit prophets and teachers of hyper grace/OSAS have been wielding that double edged sword against the truth, as did these same deceivers of Ezekiel's day (Ezekiel 13:22 KJV): a sword that makes the heart of righteous Christians sad by condemning them for preaching the truth about grace and works, as well as strengthening the hands of wicked, unconverted churchgoers that they may continue in wickedness by "promising them life" eternal with Jesus with their false hyper grace, OSAS nonsense.

 

[TMS]

So TMS ----are you under the Law which requires NO Faith to keep -----just obedience or disobedience ---or are you under GRACE ----which requires no obedience to the Law ---but does Require Faith in the unseen Spiritual realm ----YOU decide ----which you are under ---You can;t be under Both -----

TMS ----The Laws were not given under Grace ----Grace is a fee gift ---we cannot earn Grace ----the 10 Commandments were not a free gift ---

-Salvation was a free Gift we did nothing to earn the Blessing that Salvation brings ----

I am under Grace, i have stated it many times, that keeping law will not save me.

What is grace? ... Why are you under grace if no law can be broken?
I don't claim to be under the law because Jesus paid it all and by grace gave me His righteousness. The requirements of the law are meet by Jesus.

Why can't i be under grace and by grace live to obey the law of liberty?
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

We have done and can do nothing to earn salvation, but Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments. Am i doing anything wrong by loving Jesus for what He has done for me? Can you see how we can by Gods grace obey the law because we are saved by grace and are under grace.

 

[TMS]

It is not necessarily a departure from grace to be obedient to the laws of holy scripture.

It is only a departure from grace if you are seeking to be justified through your obedience.

Thanks, Amen, someone that understands......

 

[studentoftheword]

TMS ---you said ----Why can't i be under grace and by grace live to obey the law of liberty?

You can't obey the law of Liberty ----this law is a free gift ----you are free because of nothing you did ----you are free because of what Jesus did ------you can't keep the law of Faith either as faith is given by God ---you can't keep the law of Agape either as this is a gift that only the Holy Spirit can give you --

These are NOT LAWS to Keep ---they are free gifts that salvation gives to us -----

Your grasping at straws trying to figure out what your meaning -----

and Grace is not a what ----Grace is a Person ---Jesus is Grace ----again you are grasping at straws here --

John 1:17
New International Version
For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

 

[Phoneman-777]

BroTan, this is belief of those who claim the Law and the Old Covenant are one in the same:

"Do we make void the (Old Covenant) through faith? God forbid! Yea, we establish the (Old Covenant)."​

Why do they insist on believing such nonsense? Why do they refuse to explain such stupidity?

 

[BroTan]

I have no doubt there are those seeking truth who observe in silence, and am grateful to God for the opportunity to expose error with the light of Spiritual truth, that they may discern right from wrong.

For too long, these false pulpit prophets and teachers of hyper grace/OSAS have been wielding that double edged sword against the truth, as did these same deceivers of Ezekiel's day (Ezekiel 13:22 KJV): a sword that makes the heart of righteous Christians sad by condemning them for preaching the truth about grace and works, as well as strengthening the hands of wicked, unconverted churchgoers that they may continue in wickedness by "promising them life" eternal with Jesus with their false hyper grace, OSAS nonsense.

Praise the Lord my brother, because we are in time when Paul says in 1 Timothy 4: 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

See we living in the times when up is not up and down is not down. Straight words out of Jesus mouth means little to some Christians, because they run to Paul's writing over Jesus words. As if Jesus is not Lord. And Jesus came and spake unto them saying, "All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." (Mat. 28:18)

 

[TMS]

TMS ---you said ----Why can't i be under grace and by grace live to obey the law of liberty?

You can't obey the law of Liberty ----this law is a free gift ----you are free because of nothing you did ----you are free because of what Jesus did ------you can't keep the law of Faith either as faith is given by God ---you can't keep the law of Agape either as this is a gift that only the Holy Spirit can give you --

These are NOT LAWS to Keep ---they are free gifts that salvation gives to us -----

Your grasping at straws trying to figure out what your meaning -----

and Grace is not a what ----Grace is a Person ---Jesus is Grace ----again you are grasping at straws here --

John 1:17
New International Version
For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

If this law is a gift that Jesus would like to give us, Then can we accept that gift? Can we by grace allow the law to be given to us and written on our hearts and minds? Grace did come by Jesus Christ.

Grace =
... unmerited divine assistance given to humans for their regeneration or sanctification
... unmerited exemption ... REPRIEVE
... approval or kindness, especially that is freely given by God to all humans:

When we fail God shows grace. We are seen as perfect because of His grace, So do we ignore the laws and continue in sin that grace might abound?

 

[BroTan]

BroTan, this is belief of those who claim the Law and the Old Covenant are one in the same:

"Do we make void the (Old Covenant) through faith? God forbid! Yea, we establish the (Old Covenant)."​

Why do they insist on believing such nonsense? Why do they refuse to explain such stupidity?

Well, in the scriptures it's written in Isaiah 8: 20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

 

[BroTan]

Rom 14:4, Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Rom 14:5, One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6, He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Notice that it does not specify Saturday as being the day that a man esteems above another; which provides for Sunday as being that day in certain perspectives.

But even if it were specifying Saturday, in verse 6 the one who does not regard it does not regard it to the Lord; and so his not regarding the day is sanctified.



Eph 2:8, For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9, Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Rom 4:4, Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
Rom 4:5, But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Rom 4:6, Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
Rom 4:7, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
Rom 4:8, Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

Tit 3:4, But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Tit 3:5, Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6, Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Tit 3:7, That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Rom 11:5, Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Rom 11:6, And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.




The seed that is planted is not good works but the word of the Lord (Romans 10:17, Luke 8:11).

We still must obey all of God's laws and statues of conduct, from the Ten Commandments to the least commandment. We cannot choose to obey one without obeying the others. For instance, if it's still good to pay tithes (as many preach), then it is still good to obey God's dietary law (not eating pork, catfish, etc...Leviticus 11: 1-47. Similarly, you cannot purposely trip a blind person (Leviticus 19:14) and claim to love your neighbor as yourself. Neither can you break God's Sabbath days (Leviticus 19:30) and claim to love God with all your heart, soul and mind. Many fight to uphold man's traditional holidays (Sunday the 1st day as the Sabbath, Christmas, Easter and Halloween), but few are obeying God's Holy Days (Saturday the 7th day Sabbath, the Passover, Pentecost, etc…Leviticus 23: 1-44. All of God's laws are still good and must be obeyed if we want eternal life. We might not be able to observe everything perfectly, but can fight a good fight. If we do this our prize awaits us at the end. "...if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments" (Matthew 19:17).

Using Paul writing will not help slide away from the Sabbath day on the seventh day of the week, because Paul kept the Sabbath day and taught the Gentiles. So how can you made Paul look bad like that...(Acts 13:13-15, 42, 44) (v.13) Now when Paul and his company loosed from Pa’-phus, they came to Per’-ga in Pam-phyl’-I-a: and John departing from them returned to Jerusalem. (v.14) But when they departed from Per’-ga, they came to An’-ti-och in Pi-sid’-I-a, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down. Paul went into the church (synagogue) on the sabbath day the seventh day not the first day (Sunday). (v.15) And after the reading of the law and the prophets the rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, Ye men and brethren, if ye have any word of exhortation for the people, say on. (v.42) And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

The Gentiles didn’t asked Paul to come preach us something different next Sunday. They wanted Paul to preach to them the same thing that he taught the Jews, the next sabbath. Even the Gentiles knew that if they were going to serve the same God that Paul and the Jews (Israelites) served that they would have to serve him on the day that God had set up. (v.42) And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God. Not the next Sunday but the next sabbath.

How is Romans 14 chapter helping you keep a day that's not written in the Bible? For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. (Romans 14:17).

 

[BroTan]

If this law is a gift that Jesus would like to give us, Then can we accept that gift? Can we by grace allow the law to be given to us and written on our hearts and minds? Grace did come by Jesus Christ.

Grace =
... unmerited divine assistance given to humans for their regeneration or sanctification
... unmerited exemption ... REPRIEVE
... approval or kindness, especially that is freely given by God to all humans:

When we fail God shows grace. We are seen as perfect because of His grace, So do we ignore the laws and continue in sin that grace might abound?

Jesus brought grace when he came in the flesh, but example of grace was in the days of Noah. But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. (Genesis 6:8), And Noah and his family was saved. Now Paul said in (Rom. 3:23-25) (v.23) For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. (v.24) Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: (v.25) Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God. So the bible tells you to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2 :36-38). And by doing so you come up under his precious blood and then you are saved from your sins that are past, not present or future sins but for sins that are past. We were all locked under death by Adam’s sin, even the second death. But when Jesus became (he was God in the beginning) man and died for the sins of the world, he gave us access back to the tree of life (himself) which Adam had caused us to lose. That’s what grace is, our free gift our access back to the tree of life but that’s another lesson for another time. So by coming under the blood of Jesus you are saved from your past sins. And if you are saved now, it is on a day to day basis. Because for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God (Romans 23:3), and if you continue to live you will sin again. It is the willful sinning that you need to put in check. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. (Hebrew 10: 26, 27)

 

[Phoneman-777]

Praise the Lord my brother, because we are in time when Paul says in 1 Timothy 4: 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

See we living in the times when up is not up and down is not down. Straight words out of Jesus mouth means little to some Christians, because they run to Paul's writing over Jesus words. As if Jesus is not Lord. And Jesus came and spake unto them saying, "All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." (Mat. 28:18)

What a shame they're willing to throw away eternity in exchange for a few seasonal pleasures of sinful habit.