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I said that in reference to these questions :Hum, the specific answers to these questions have been given back in 2011, and I think I mostly agree with everything said back then
Well, it means that the punishment inflected is forever, you don't get out of it. This is eternal death : no way out, for ever and ever they will be punished by death.
By the way, this text opposes life to punishment, which supports the fact that the wicked will not have eternal life. They won't keep suffering forever, but they will be punished by fire and die from it, once and for ever.
Some other texts that support that :
Ezé 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine:
the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Versus :
Eze 18:9 [But he that] hath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal truly; he is just, he shall surely live, saith the Lord GOD.
Can people say unequivocally that Jesus' resurrection was Sunday morning and not late Saturday night?
It is not even universally agreed which day Jesus was crucified
Short version : yes as SDA we believe Jesus resurrected on Sunday morning.
(I can dig on the day of crucifixion if you will, you can just ask
)Longer version :
The earthquake and the rolling of the stone closing the tomb happened clearly on Sunday morning, a little bit before dawn.
Mat 28:1-2 KJV 1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. 2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
Not only that, but Jesus did not ascend to heaven to see his father before later that morning. Indeed, he met Mary and told her :
Jea 20:17
Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
So, from the Bible, it would be pretty far fetched to assume Jesus was resurrected many hours before all that. On the contrary, the most reasonable (and accepted) understanding is Jesus resurrection on Sunday morning.
Now I agree that I don't know of any text that say specifically and literally that he resurrected on Sunday morning, but because of the many indirect evidence we have of that, I don't think any other hypothesis would be Bible based.
That is what I think
Everlasting mean eternal or forever
Punishment is the infliction or imposition of a penalty as retribution for an offense.
So everlasting punishment mean never ending punihment you can punisht the death
That was about marriage not diet. There is no teaching by Christ to go back to any certain diet.
Can people say unequivocally that Jesus' resurrection was Sunday morning and not late Saturday night?
Saturday night is when Sunday begins in Jewish tradition.
Sorry, I realize that what I said was not clear.
Yes, this passage is about marriage and not primarily about diet. Sorry for not saying that clearly.
The point I make is about the principles upon which Jesus teach here. If we apply these principles to diet, it should lead us to plant based diet.
There are no principles laid out there for things like diet or jobs. If that was what we should do, then everyone should be a farmer like Adam. Not to mention Adam and Eve are pretty much the worse people to imitate based on their tendency to disobey God and curse humanity. Besides, there is zero evidence people did not eat meat in the earliest of days. Dominion over fish does not mean using them to farm, or having as pets. That type of dominion is to catch and eat them. Humans have always had a mix of teeth for Carnivore eating and plant based eating.
What did Jesus mean when He said "My Father is working until now, and I am working" John 5:17?
If God has been working "until now", then He has not yet rested and His creation is still not complete. The Sabbath we are commanded to keep is the 1000 year millennial reign which will start after Jesus' return. We can join Him in His rest by following Jesus now.
Blessings and peace to you all.
If God has been working "until now", then He has not yet rested and His creation is still not complete. The Sabbath we are commanded to keep is the 1000 year millennial reign which will start after Jesus' return. We can join Him in His rest by following Jesus now.
Blessings and peace to you all.
Eat what ever you want..... it is your choice.
If you would like to trust science and the findings of men you'll see that they are slowly coming into line with the SDA teachings. Their health principles have not changed for years and science is starting to catch up.
What the Church taught 100 years ago about diet and lifestyle is being accepted today more and more by science. Vegetarians were laughed at years ago, but evidence shows that the vegetarian diet causes a longer and happier life.
God created us and knows what is best for us. Research the bible and see what God told His people not to eat and you can be sure it was for their good. Food has not changed and we are even weaker today, so i say listen to the SDA advice because they do live longer then most people on average.
So what did Paul mean when he said "As in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive"?
I agree with your estimation. Jesus was first recorded as seen on Sunday morning but that is not the same has having rose from the dead on Sunday. It could very well be that Jesus rose Saturday night.Can people say unequivocally that Jesus' resurrection was Sunday morning and not late Saturday night?
It is not even universally agreed which day Jesus was crucified
That salient fact sometimes escapes me in the differing timelines given in the gospels, one according to our
way of counting days, and others according to the Jewish fashion of counting a day as starting at sunset
That would be true unless Jesus rose from the dead before sundown on Saturday. After sundown, it would be as you said, on Sunday. If Jesus was dead for 3 days or 72 hours, ascertaining the time of death is key to determine the day the Jesus rose from the dead.
That would contradict scripture:
Mar_16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
Early on the first day of the week means Saturday night which is the beginning part of a Sunday.
Counting three days back means he was buried on Wednesday night, what we call Early Thursday.
I see no question here
Still, this is a thread to ask questions to Adventists. If you have stuff to say, there are other threads out there
