Sorry, but the gathering for them, written in Matthew 24, will be after God's wrath is poured out. Did you not read in Daniel 12 that the very purpose of the 70th week is to completely shatter the power of the Jews? Today they trust in their IDF: Israeli Defense Forces. God will cause their IDF to be completely shattered and bring them to the place where ONLY GOD can save them.
A golden key to understand the book of Revelations
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never are they, there are not multiple comings in the clouds of glory with trumps and angels.
I think the "Him" in question is our Lord Jesus Christ. Perhaps it is nonsensical but it is what is written.
It is true that many Christians try and use scriptures pointed to the Jews and attempt to make them apply to the church - so end up in error in their thinking.
I hate to be a stickler for detail, but technically the word ekklēsia (commonly translated "church") isn't mentioned after chapter 3 until chapter 22, not chapter 4. How do we know Revelation 4 is a type of the rapture? The word "church" is nowhere to be found.
Neither does the word ekklēsia appear in the books of Mark, Luke, John, 2 Timothy, Titus, 1 Peter, 2 Peter, 1 John, 2 John, and Jude. Perhaps those books were meant for someone else as well.
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show unto his servants, even the things which must shortly come to pass: and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John;
The day of the Lord and the great tribulation are two things clear different ... tribulation comes from the world.
It may sound nonsensical, but those words were given by divine inspiration to John. And the Greek text makes it perfectly clear that the Father gave the Revelation to the Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore all the English translations follow that order. So you can either believe that this is indeed the Word of God, or you can speculate about it.
The Great Tribulation does not come from the world but is an expression of divine wrath. The seven vials of God's wrath are in fact the Great Tribulation.
The revelation of John, the revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave him [John] to show unto His servants ... the angel of the Lord is God [Jesus Christ] Himself as is shown in the first chapter.
No, neither you nor Evmur got it right. The 7 vials will be poured out, to be sure, while days of GT will be continuing, but God will use them to SHORTEN those days of GT. The days of GT Jesus spoke of will begin right after God's warning not to take the mark, as we read in Rev. 14, and will continue on until the vials are poured out. The DAYS will continue, to fulfill the 1260 days and 42 months that will end the week, but they won't be days of GT. They will be days of darkness and fear, wondering what God will do next.
Have you seen an original, to know if that title was written by John or was added later?
If you notice, I called the theory of a SECRET rapture a MYTH. The real rapture will be pre-70th week and it will be NOISY! And the entire world will KNOW something happened, for all their children will be missing.