The only Evidence of Salvation - by Brother Gregg Jackson

justbyfaith · Nov 22, 2021

The essence of the passage is teaching that the man in question will not be saved unless the church at Corinth exhibits church discipline. The church at Corinth's discipline of the man will result in his spirit being saved.

This would indicate that his spirit was not yet saved while he was committing the sins that Paul said shortly afterward might have the result of the persons committing them not inheriting the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).

justbyfaith · Nov 22, 2021

Nehemiah6 said:

Unbelievers cannot be saved?

I would contend that all an unbeliever has to do in order to be saved is to repent of their unbelief and believe.

Dino246 · Nov 22, 2021

justbyfaith said:

Post 51 has nothing to do with post 42, outside of your assertion, and nothing whatsoever to do with my post 45. It’s clear that you didn’t read my post, but only threw c**p at it because I wrote it. Get your head sorted and your attitude fixed.

justbyfaith · Nov 22, 2021

Dino246 said:

Those who check the statements will be able to see that the post that I linked to does indeed contain scripture that deals with your contention.

You can say all you want that there is no biblical basis for what I am saying, people are going to see through that.

It is evident that I have given the biblical basis for what I have said.

Your denying that is not going to change the facts...

All it is going to do is discredit you as you are proven to be a liar in front of many people.

Dino246 · Nov 22, 2021

justbyfaith said:

Those who check the statements will be able to see that the post that I linked to does indeed contain scripture that deals with your contention.

You can say all you want that there is no biblical basis for what I am saying, people are going to see through that.

It is evident that I have given the biblical basis for what I have said.

Your denying that is not going to change the facts...

All it is going to do is discredit you as you are proven to be a liar in front of many people.

I yawn in your general direction.

justbyfaith · Nov 22, 2021

Dino246 said:

I will not be one to accept your advances...for I am a heterosexual (happily married).

Radius · Nov 22, 2021

I like Got Questions though

Dino246 · Nov 22, 2021

justbyfaith said:

You're sick.

justbyfaith · Nov 22, 2021

Dino246 said:

You have three fingers pointing back at you (Matthew 7:1-5, Luke 6:41-42).

HatedForNoReason · Nov 23, 2021

ChosenbyHim said:

The only Evidence of Salvation - by Brother Gregg Jackson

The only evidence of a person's salvation is that they have BELIEVED The Gospel.

If a person professes that they have trusted in Christ alone as savior believing He died for all their sins, was buried and rose again on the 3rd Day according to the Scriptures for their justification we must assume they are a brother or sister in Christ (BASED SOLELY ON THEIR PROFESSION OF FAITH).

So, don't be going to websites like (Calvinist) "Got Questions" that has a 12 point litmus test (which they mis-apply) from 1st John to determine if a person has "genuine saving faith" here:https://www.gotquestions.org/signs-saving-faith.html

Instead trust the words of Jesus:

"Verily, verily I say unto you he who BELIEVETH in Me hath everlasting life." (John 6:47)

A person is saved (from the penalty & punishment for sin in hell) the moment they trust in Christ ALONE as savior and can know with 100% certainty they possess ETERNAL LIFE (the life of Christ) and are GUARANTEED to never be plucked from the Father's Hand or perish (John 10:28-31) or separated from His love (Romans 8:38-39) solely on the basis of FAITH (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 4:5, Galatians 3:24, John 3:16, John 6:47, Acts 16:31).

Man's word can mislead.

But God's Word NEVER does...

"These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God; that ye may KNOW that ye HAVE ETERNAL LIFE, and that ye may BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God." (1st John 5:13, KJV)

Be of good cheer today!!!!!

After God gave me the Holy Spirit, I found proof that TV, movies, novels, music, video games and computer games are all sins, except Christian stuff

The information in the link below, will show evidence of one of God's elect. By having the Holy Spirit (100% going to Heaven), you have no fear of end of time prophecies.

https://christianchat.com/testimoni...s-except-christian-stuff.199651/#post-4600281

pottersclay · Nov 23, 2021

Many give lip service to the Lord.
Believing in Christ is believing his evaluation of your present state. You are a sinner, you are in need of a savior.
Adding Christ to your life style is not the way to enter in. Laying down your lifestyle and pursuing his lifestyle is what's required.
Seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness.
Some are still standing at the door to enter in thinking they are saved but they are not . So sad.
Going through the motions to be seen by men but yet there life remains fruitless.

Noah story was and is a good demonstration of this. Believing in the word of God he entered in and the Lord shut the door.
He and his household were saved.

CS1 · Nov 23, 2021

ChosenbyHim said:

well, there must be evidence of the confession in the life of the confessor. "You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!"James 2:19..

JAMES THE BROTHER of the lord addresses this very clear about having a talk right but your walk says something different.

starting at verse 14.

14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?

So many get hung up on the word "works" and it means works-based salvation.

The work of faith is in context to the Work of The Cross of Christ, in the personal life that confesses Jesus As Lord. Then their Life produces an actual change that can be seen i.e. work or works. James is saying true faith in Jesus will produce in the life of the believer works Jesus did. The work that brings glory to God and not to man. So saying you believe in Jesus yet you are still in your sin is self-deception and one is not born-again they are fooled again.

Some have taken the confession of a phrase or repeated prayer and say to those who said them, " you just got born-again send me a letter or call the number on the screen. Yet they are still in sexual sin and told it's ok, still addicted it's ok, still shacking up and it's ok

God winks at this because you confessed Jesus as Lord but live like a devil. What did Jesus save you from? Jeuss did not become the Lord of ones life so one could live the way they want to and yet still go to heaven because we said Jesus is our Lord BUT lived like HE was not

Jesus is not going to be mocked " I never knew you". Will the shock to many who thought they were good to go.

2Corinthians 13:5 says:

Examine yourselves to see if your faith is genuine. Test yourselves. Surely you know that Jesus Christ is among you; if not, you have failed the test of genuine faith.

RolloTamasi · Nov 23, 2021

John 8:26: "So if the son sets you free, you will be free indeed".

You cannot judge this.
It's in the hands of Jesus.

justbyfaith · Nov 23, 2021

pottersclay said:

In order to be saved you must accept that you are a sinner and that you cannot be anything but a sinner....right....

Actually, that is only partially correct.

All of us are sinners in that we have indwelling sin on the inside of us (1 John 1:8, 1 Timothy 1:15, Romans 7:18). We sin because we are sinners; we are not sinners because we sin. But we do not have to sin because we are sinners.

Because the element of sin can be rendered dead on the inside of us (Romans 6:6, Galatians 5:24, Romans 7:8) so that it no longer has any say over our behaviour (Romans 6:14). Because we are not obligated to obey the flesh as those who are born again of the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:12 (kjv, NLT)).

So then, if you define a sinner as "someone who sins", we do not have to be sinners; and being a sinner in that sense is not a requirement for salvation.

As a matter of fact, in order to be saved one needs to repent of being a sinner in that sense.

Mat 7:21, Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22, Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23, And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Mat 13:41, The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
Mat 13:42, And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

BroTan · Nov 23, 2021

ChosenbyHim said:

All the word of God have to be out in it's proper place. Just as you freely accepted Jesus in your life you can also freely choose to stop serving him. Jesus said with his own mouth; (Matt. 24:13) But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. That is until the end of your life, or until the Second Coming of the Lord. People are being taught that once you are quote “saved” that you can never fall to the spiritually lost condition. This is not true and totally unbiblical; this teaching is a damnable heresy brought in by man. To teach someone that all they have to do is believe on Christ and you are saved is a doctrine of the devil.

Jesus brought grace when he came in the flesh, but example of grace was in the days of Noah. But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. (Genesis 6:8), And Noah and his family was saved. Now Paul said in (Rom. 3:23-25) (v.23) For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. (v.24) Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: (v.25) Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God. So the bible tells you to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2 :36-38). And by doing so you come up under his precious blood and then you are saved from your sins that are past, not present or future sins but for sins that are past.

We were all locked under death by Adam’s sin, even the second death. But when Jesus became (he was God in the beginning) man and died for the sins of the world, he gave us access back to the tree of life (himself) which Adam had caused us to lose. That’s what grace is, our free gift our access back to the tree of life but that’s another lesson for another time. So by coming under the blood of Jesus you are saved from your past sins. And if you are saved now, it is on a day to day basis. Because for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God (Romans 23:3), and if you continue to live you will sin again. It is the willful sinning that you need to put in check. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. (Hebrew 10: 26, 27)

justbyfaith · Nov 23, 2021

BroTan said:

According to Jesus in John 5:24 (kjv), everlasting life begins at the moment of first faith.

I will qualify that by saying that it must be a genuine faith that is carried by the person.

In Romans 11:20-22, we find that if a man does not continue in God's goodness, he may even be cut off.

However, if anyone is sealed by the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13-14, Ephesians 4:30, 2 Corinthians 1:22, 2 Corinthians 5:5), He is an earnest of their redemption.

Those who are sealed by the Holy Spirit will be obedient to the Holy Spirit all their days. Thus they will not cease to continue in His goodness.

Here are the verses that I proclaim for eternal security according to the doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints and not according to the doctrine of Once Saved Always Saved:

1Jo 3:6, Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

1Jo 2:17, And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

BroTan · Nov 24, 2021

justbyfaith said:

All the verses are true, but not according to doctrine. There is no eternal security, even Paul understood this in (1 Cor. 9:24-27) (v.24) Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. (v.25) And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown: but we an incorruptible. Paul says that when you run in a race every body is running for a prize. But this prize that he is referring to is eternal life, that’s what he means by an incorruptible, he’s talking about an incorruptible body, a heavenly body. (v.26) I therefore so run, not as uncertainly, so fight, not as one that beateth the air: (v.27) But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. You see Paul knew exactly what was going on that why he says he has to bring his body under subjection. Under subjection to what? To God’s Law, Paul knew that if he didn’t continue to keep Gods law that even after he had preached to many that he himself could still become a castaway. This doesn’t sound like Paul thinks that he has guarantee salvation.

HatedForNoReason · Nov 24, 2021

BroTan said:

Than that means you believe man's will overpowers God's will. Meaning you don't believe God is all powerful.

The Holy Spirit is the seal that is given to all of God's elect.

I assume roughly 99% of the world's population are nonelects.

John 10:28-29
King James Version

28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

After God gave me the Holy Spirit, I found proof that TV, movies, novels, music, video games and computer games are all sins, except Christian stuff. Read 10 commandments.

link below is the true gospel of how God gave the Holy Spirit to one of God's elect.

https://christianchat.com/testimoni...s-except-christian-stuff.199651/#post-4583333

justbyfaith · Nov 25, 2021

BroTan said:

All the verses are true, but not according to doctrine. There is no eternal security, even Paul understood this in (1 Cor. 9:24-27) (v.24) Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. (v.25) And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown: but we an incorruptible. Paul says that when you run in a race every body is running for a prize. But this prize that he is referring to is eternal life, that’s what he means by an incorruptible, he’s talking about an incorruptible body, a heavenly body. (v.26) I therefore so run, not as uncertainly, so fight, not as one that beateth the air: (v.27) But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. You see Paul knew exactly what was going on that why he says he has to bring his body under subjection. Under subjection to what? To God’s Law, Paul knew that if he didn’t continue to keep Gods law that even after he had preached to many that he himself could still become a castaway. This doesn’t sound like Paul thinks that he has guarantee salvation.

I do not feel the need to argue with you; as I am quite secure in my understanding that the one who does the will of God abideth for ever (1 John 2:17).

peldom10 · Nov 25, 2021

ChosenbyHim said:

The only Evidence of Salvation - by Brother Gregg Jackson

The only evidence of a person's salvation is that they have BELIEVED The Gospel.

If a person professes that they have trusted in Christ alone as savior believing He died for all their sins, was buried and rose again on the 3rd Day according to the Scriptures for their justification we must assume they are a brother or sister in Christ (BASED SOLELY ON THEIR PROFESSION OF FAITH).

So, don't be going to websites like (Calvinist) "Got Questions" that has a 12 point litmus test (which they mis-apply) from 1st John to determine if a person has "genuine saving faith" here:https://www.gotquestions.org/signs-saving-faith.html

Instead trust the words of Jesus:

"Verily, verily I say unto you he who BELIEVETH in Me hath everlasting life." (John 6:47)

A person is saved (from the penalty & punishment for sin in hell) the moment they trust in Christ ALONE as savior and can know with 100% certainty they possess ETERNAL LIFE (the life of Christ) and are GUARANTEED to never be plucked from the Father's Hand or perish (John 10:28-31) or separated from His love (Romans 8:38-39) solely on the basis of FAITH (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 4:5, Galatians 3:24, John 3:16, John 6:47, Acts 16:31).

Man's word can mislead.

But God's Word NEVER does...

"These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God; that ye may KNOW that ye HAVE ETERNAL LIFE, and that ye may BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God." (1st John 5:13, KJV)

Be of good cheer today!!!!!

What evidence do you find that they ........"believed the gospel"?
Also don't you mean born again...vs salvation? Salvation is not received until God judges, after physical death, and grants eternal salvation. Until that time while we are on this earth........we are born again.

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