Ah! You believe in the rapture. That’s why we’re unable to agree.
Of course I do, it's biblical!
If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?
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Of course I do, it's biblical!
“But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people” (Jeremiah 31:33)
JESUS started to Reign with The New Covenant. We are His people in His Kingdom.
JESUS started to Reign with The New Covenant. We are His people in His Kingdom.
It's not an unfair chance to be saved! As you can see there are many who will not believe while Christ is on earth.
but of course, we are going to see completely opposite by our opposite style of interpretation.
The Kingdom of Heaven/God is a literal Kingdom! Our salvation is not complete on this earth, as Paul has told us that in this life we only have a down-payment on our salvation, that being the Holy Spirit.
In this life that literal Kingdom is out of our reach, so through the Holy Spirit that Christ has given us by faith, that Kingdom lives within our hearts by the Holy Spirit, UNTIL the resurrection where our salvation is completed and the literal Kingdom becomes obtainable for us.
We can plainly see this by God transferring His Kingdom from Heaven, out of our reach, to earth which is in our reach.
Hey Charlie, how is there going to be a third Temple when GOD gave the land for It to islam on purpose? Do you really think satan can convince islam to demolish their favorite building for their enemies?
the last thing satan wants is to clue everyone in that the end is here, people might actually get Right with GOD.
How is the mark of the beast something physical and irreversible if you can just dig it out of you?
the last thing satan wants is to clue everyone in that the end is here, people might actually get Right with GOD.
How is the mark of the beast something physical and irreversible if you can just dig it out of you?
You are underestimating the power of the anti-christ to make an agreement with nations, as Daniel told us.
Working out the temple problem between the Jews and Muslims is a piece of cake for the evil one!
Those who take the mark of the beast will not want to dig it out, and neither will the children of the Kingdom want to scratch off the name God writes on them!
Psalms 37:27-29
Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.
For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
It didn't say they would live for a thousand years on it. Kind of hard for the wicked to pop back up and be deceived by satan.
Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.
For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
It didn't say they would live for a thousand years on it. Kind of hard for the wicked to pop back up and be deceived by satan.
Sounds like Reigning Priests of The Kingdom to me:
2 Timothy 2:2-5
And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.
Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully.
masteries = "to encircle with a crown, to crown:" https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g4737/kjv/tr/0-1/
2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
2 Timothy 2:2-5
And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.
Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully.
masteries = "to encircle with a crown, to crown:" https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g4737/kjv/tr/0-1/
2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
This is right after the dream statue of nebuchadnezzar:
Daniel 2:24-25
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
//Why didn't the scripture just say "at the end of time" instead of in the days of these kings?
Daniel 2:24-25
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
//Why didn't the scripture just say "at the end of time" instead of in the days of these kings?
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I agree that those who are caught up/raptured leave their flesh behind in the resurrection .
He said to them, “Where the body is, there the vultures will be gathered together.” Luke 17
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Ah! You believe in the rapture. That’s why we’re unable to agree.
Keep in mind that the same word we get saints can also mean angels, comes from the root word holy ones. So, did the translaters pick the right meaning in various verses?/ saints or angels
JESUS is a King of The Kingdom right now.
Hebrews 1:8-10
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
Hebrews 1:8-10
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
No, this is not the case.
You appear to be advocating for an interpretation of the kingdom that is compatible with the Talmud's depiction of the coming of the messiah, and incompatible with New Testament scripture that explicitly describes the promise through Christ. The perspective you have presented, by its nature, is not Christian.
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Wanted to give an example of what I am speaking of when I say did the translaters pick the correct meaning--angels or saints
Matthew 25:31 “When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne.
1 Thess. 3:13 so that he may establish your hearts unblamable in holiness before our God and Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus with all his saints.
One verse says he is coming with his saints, the other angels
Matthew 25:31 “When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne.
1 Thess. 3:13 so that he may establish your hearts unblamable in holiness before our God and Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus with all his saints.
One verse says he is coming with his saints, the other angels
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I'm afraid you have assumed incorrectly! I assure you there multiple millions who see from scripture as I have shown you!
If you want to know where I'm coming from study up on dispensationalism, It will tell you who I am.
You will find we are total opposites in the interpretation of scripture!
And in Revelation 22:8-9, notice what the angel says to John. He claims to be a descendant of John and all the prophets!
Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things. Then he said to me, "See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God."
- Revelation 22:8-9 (NKJV)
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I see what you saying here, believe angel s correct--kinda puzzling huh but maybe describing himself as just another fellow servant
I see what you saying here, believe angel s correct--kinda puzzling huh but maybe describing himself as just another fellow servant