Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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posthuman

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Angela has been taken captive by the devil. For her evil is good, and good is evil! So each time the truth is present, a BIG RED X is dumped on that post. I just hope she is not snitching on her neighbors who refuse to wear masks and refuse to take poisons into their bloodstreams.
are you listening to yourself???
 

posthuman

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Do you know that VAERS data is OFFICIAL
anyone and everyone can post absolutely anything to VAERS and none of it is verified and none of it has any mention of any other circumstance.

i can die in a car accident tomorrow and you can put in VAERS, post had a vaccine, post died.
or maybe even i don't die at all but you post that to VAERS anyway. no one will check or verify or change it.
and then you can use that as so-called-evidence

VAERS is even worse than wikipedia as far as trustworthiness goes

VAERS is only a tool for people to look at and go, hmm, maybe something is going on -- and then do ACTUAL research to see if the things in VAERS are real or lies. it's like reading product reviews on Amazon - half of them are ppl who didn't read the instructions or item description, and another 25% are for an entirely different product. you can't just read VAERS and draw conclusions, that's idiocy
 

posthuman

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i can put in VAERS, my car broke down and i had a vaccine.

you can search VAERS and you will see 'vaccines cause cars to break down'

so much stupid.

i can't even.
 

PennEd

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Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age
And have been for six months. This chart may seem unbelievable or impossible, but it's correct, based on weekly data from the British government.

Alex Berenson

13 hr ago912489

The brown line represents weekly deaths from all causes of vaccinated people aged 10-59, per 100,000 people.
The blue line represents weekly deaths from all causes of unvaccinated people per 100,000 in the same age range.

I have checked the underlying dataset myself and this graph is correct. Vaccinated people under 60 are twice as likely to die as unvaccinated people. And overall deaths in Britain are running well above normal.
I don’t know how to explain this other than vaccine-caused mortality.
The basic data is available here, download the Excel file and see table 4:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland
 

Nehemiah6

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you can't just read VAERS and draw conclusions, that's idiocy
So where do you go for the ACTUAL DATA? Or do you simply believe all the liars on the media and their spin on the Scamdemic? Here is what the CDC says about VAERS and you can take it or leave it.

About VAERS
Background and Public Health Importance
Established in 1990, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is a national early warning system to detect possible safety problems in U.S.-licensed vaccines. VAERS is co-managed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). VAERS accepts and analyzes reports of adverse events (possible side effects) after a person has received a vaccination. Anyone can report an adverse event to VAERS. Healthcare professionals are required to report certain adverse events and vaccine manufacturers are required to report all adverse events that come to their attention.


VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning it relies on individuals to send in reports of their experiences to CDC and FDA. VAERS is not designed to determine if a vaccine caused a health problem, but is especially useful for detecting unusual or unexpected patterns of adverse event reporting that might indicate a possible safety problem with a vaccine. This way, VAERS can provide CDC and FDA with valuable information that additional work and evaluation is necessary to further assess a possible safety concern.

Objectives of VAERS
The primary objectives of VAERS are to:

  • Detect new, unusual, or rare vaccine adverse events;
  • Monitor increases in known adverse events;
  • Identify potential patient risk factors for particular types of adverse events;
  • Assess the safety of newly licensed vaccines;
  • Determine and address possible reporting clusters (e.g., suspected localized [temporally or geographically] or product-/batch-/lot-specific adverse event reporting);
  • Recognize persistent safe-use problems and administration errors;
  • Provide a national safety monitoring system that extends to the entire general population for response to public health emergencies, such as a large-scale pandemic influenza vaccination program.
 

Angela53510

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@Angela53510 disagrees with "Natural Immunity"? or frontline meds? or,
monoclonal antibodies? But agrees with Covid jab/Boosters/Mandates???
I guess it's time to put you in ignore. Besides lying about what I have clearly stated, you contribute nothing to the discussions.

I have said in many posts I am totally against vaccine mandates. I detest when people are forced to take a vaccine when they do not want to. It is wrong!

I do not believe everyone has natural immunity. I do not! I take chemo drugs to suppress my Rheumatoid Arthritis, which is overactive and attacking my joints, heart and lungs. I am triple vaxed, for that reason.

I have also known so many people who have died of COVID, or come very close! Seminary professors, former pastors of mine, old friends. I have never met a person who had a major reaction or died from the vax, and everyone I know is vaxed. I had no reaction to any of my vaccines, at all.

I have to wonder if you know anything about Jesus, or are a Christian, since the animosity you have shown towards me, let alone lying about what I have clearly stated in my posts. You've been in this forum 10 months and you know nothing about me!

As for Nehemiah, he's a paranoid fool on this issue, although I respect him on other issues, or kindly disagree with him. In the case of these vaxes, he's a real nut case. And he knows how I feel about his junky Anti-vax sites that are full of absolute lies.
 

Angela53510

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Angela has been taken captive by the devil. For her evil is good, and good is evil! So each time the truth is present, a BIG RED X is dumped on that post. I just hope she is not snitching on her neighbors who refuse to wear masks and refuse to take poisons into their bloodstreams.
Now you are the Accuser! I have said a million times I am against mandates. If it ever came to reporting people for not taking the vaxes, I barely know my neighbours, living in an acreage. And why would I report them, when I am against the mandates? You are a liar, but I will leave your sin to God! If someone wants to take a chance with COVID, that is their right. As for me, this vaccination was absolutely the right thing for me, with damaged lungs from pneumonias, asthma and Rheumatoid Lung Disease, and heart disease from RA. I could die any day, I know I belong to Jesus, and I will be with him. But after months of prayer, and talking to many doctors, reading about and understanding the mechanism of the m-RNA vaccine, I realized that God wanted me to live, not die of COVID pneumonia on a vent!
 

Duckybill

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Nobody, also not Satan can programing a child of God to worship him. Or dont you believe in Gods power? Read Romans 8.
This vaccine has nothing to do with the mark of the beast. Thats Paranoia.
Prove it! You can't. You've been programmed!
 

posthuman

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Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age
And have been for six months. This chart may seem unbelievable or impossible, but it's correct, based on weekly data from the British government.

Alex Berenson

13 hr ago912489

The brown line represents weekly deaths from all causes of vaccinated people aged 10-59, per 100,000 people.
The blue line represents weekly deaths from all causes of unvaccinated people per 100,000 in the same age range.

I have checked the underlying dataset myself and this graph is correct. Vaccinated people under 60 are twice as likely to die as unvaccinated people. And overall deaths in Britain are running well above normal.
I don’t know how to explain this other than vaccine-caused mortality.
The basic data is available here, download the Excel file and see table 4:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...19-death-rate-england-much-higher-among-unva/

the majority of people in England are vaccinated.
the majority of people who aren't are young.
the majority of people who die are old.

this is classic example of data manipulation without full disclosure to produce a statistic that indicates the opposite of the truth


PLEASE stop falling for this rubbish.
stop propagating it.
remember when we used to come here to talk about Jesus??
but what do you guys do now?
 

posthuman

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remember when we used to come here to talk about Jesus??
but what do you guys do now?
why is this thread in "Bible discussion" ???

if this is what any of you call Bible Discussion
you have a serious problem
 

posthuman

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Prove it! You can't. You've been programmed!
yes, i can. Revelation 14:9
the actual mark of the beast has clear & unequivocal religious connotations. QED.


can you prove that wearing pants isn't the mark of the beast??


please stop being an idiot. it is foolish for you to be an idiot.
you shame the entire body when you are an idiot.
also, welcome to CC.
have a nice day
 

Duckybill

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yes, i can. Revelation 14:9
the actual mark of the beast has clear & unequivocal religious connotations. QED.


can you prove that wearing pants isn't the mark of the beast??


please stop being an idiot. it is foolish for you to be an idiot.
you shame the entire body when you are an idiot.
also, welcome to CC.
have a nice day
Do you think name calling makes you look intelligent? Would you accept a mandatory chip implant in your right hand from Big Brother? That's what the real "idiots" will do.
 

posthuman

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Totally biased liberal article. I have firsthand testifies from dozens of families plus a local doctor who has successfully treated over 3,000 COVID patients.
I see a pulmonologust regularly, one of the best in my state, who treats other doctors.
He tells me to take the vaccine that it isn't perfect but it is safe and beneficial.

He treats many who live and many who die. I trust him far more than conspiracy nuts on the internet, in matters of my bodily health.

He hasn't advised me to take a booster yet. He is cautious. If he does I will, if he doesn't I won't. I sure as hell ain't making those decisions based on a thread like this on the internet. He doesn't and neither do I.
He's a believer, our brother. Do you curse him for his knowledge? It's his job & he does it with all his heart, as tho to God, not men.


Mate we ain't experts on this topic. But experts exist. Let's be wise
 

posthuman

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Do you think name calling makes you look intelligent? Would you accept a mandatory chip implant in your right hand from Big Brother? That's what the real "idiots" will do.
Again, dear child, Revelation 14:9.
 

Duckybill

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So basically this is a worldly secular political topic for you, not a factual topic?
You don't seem to answer direct questions. Hmm

You see, I don't trust anyone who knowingly votes for Dems who are filthy rich from murdering unborn babies.
 
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