Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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posthuman

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You don't seem to answer direct questions. Hmm

You see, I don't trust anyone who knowingly votes for Dems who are filthy rich from murdering unborn babies.
That's a "yes it's all secular worldly political stuff for me who cares about God" answer.

Fair enough.

I vote for independents.

Go to your own place.
 

Duckybill

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That's a "yes it's all secular worldly political stuff for me who cares about God" answer.

Fair enough.

I vote for independents.

Go to your own place.
I'm glad you don't vote for the baby murderers! Now about a chip implant in your right hand?
 

Angela53510

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The media / Satan is programming you to accept the Mark.
You are another ignorant, paranoid, antivaxer, lacking in the ability to think critically. You are also naive and even stupid to accept all this anti-vax nonsense, and misusing the Bible.

What you are doing to the Bible is the foulest, poorest eisegesis I have seen on any Biblical topic. Do you read Greek? If not, stay away from interpreting Revelation, which is at best a challenge for the top scholars in the world, and at worst, exactly what you are doing here!

You are claiming to interpret Revelation literally, but ignoring the parts that are very literal, because they are totally contrary to your false interpretation. If the vax is the Mark of the Beast, then it must literally be a MARK in the head or hand. The vax leaves NO mark at all. Plus, it is given in the shoulder, not the hand or head. If you want to be literal, then you must make it all literal, not pick and choose which things are literal, which things are allegory. Pick a consistent hermeneutics, and stick with it!!

I won't even get into how wrong dispensationalism is. When Jesus returns, we will all know. That is what the Bible says. First:

"Look, he is coming with the clouds,”
and “every eye will see him,
even those who pierced him”;
and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.”
So shall it be! Amen." Rev 1:7

And next:
"Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Phil 2:9-11

Try and remember that Rev is difficult to interpret. People have claimed the end has come, since the Crusaders at the end of the first Millennium tried to conquer Jerusalem so Jesus could come down to stand in the Mount of Olives, as was prophesied in the Word.
"2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city. 3 Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights on a day of battle.4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south." Zechariah 14:2-4

As if Jesus needed help securing Jerusalem, as the Creator of the universe.

Jesus doesn't need your irrational, illogical and uneducated help figuring out who is his, if the Mark of the Beast is not allegorical, as the book is apocalyptic, not literal.

Try focusing on other verses in the Bible when you come in here. Like:

"Therefore if there is any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and mercy, 2 fulfill my joy by being like-minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind. 3 Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself. 4 Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others." Phil. 2:1-4

God is not pleased when believers condemn others born again Christians because they have a different interpretation of Revelation. You are inconsistent and brainwashed! Putting you in ignore now! No more false accusations.
 

Nehemiah6

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You are another ignorant, paranoid, antivaxer, lacking in the ability to think critically.
Angela, you are the wilfully ignorant one, making personal attacks on those who are exposing the criminals and their crimes against humanity. Do you realize how much damage you are doing by your attitude and ignorance? Various news sources are saying the exact same thing:

30,000 COVID vaccine deaths recorded by Europe database
https://www.wnd.com/2021/11/30000-covid-vaccine-deaths-recorded-europe-database/
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29,934 Deaths 2,804,900 Injuries Following COVID Shots in European Database of Adverse Reactions – Corporate Journalists Have Pericarditis After Pfizer Shots
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/2...nalists-have-pericarditis-after-pfizer-shots/
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Latest Figures From The European Database Of Adverse Reactions
https://principia-scientific.com/latest-figures-from-the-european-database-of-adverse-reactions/
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As Reports of Injuries After COVID Vaccines Near 1 Million Mark, CDC, FDA Clear Pfizer, Moderna Boosters for All Adults
VAERS data released today by the CDC included a total of 894,145 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID vaccines, including 18,853 deaths and 139,126 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020, and Nov. 12, 2021.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/...es-covid-vaccines-fda-pfizer-moderna-bosters/
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2,620 Dead Babies in VAERS After COVID Shots – More Fetal Deaths in 11 Months than Past 30 Years Following ALL Vaccines as Scotland Begins Investigation
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/2...ll-vaccines-as-scotland-begins-investigation/
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Vaccinated Doctors are Dying and Unvaccinated Doctors are Quitting or Being Fired: Who will Run the Hospitals?
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/v...ng-or-being-fired-who-will-run-the-hospitals/
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WOE UNTO THEM THAT CALL GOOD EVIL, AND EVIL GOOD.
 

Duckybill

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You are another ignorant, paranoid, antivaxer, lacking in the ability to think critically. You are also naive and even stupid to accept all this anti-vax nonsense, and misusing the Bible.

What you are doing to the Bible is the foulest, poorest eisegesis I have seen on any Biblical topic. Do you read Greek? If not, stay away from interpreting Revelation, which is at best a challenge for the top scholars in the world, and at worst, exactly what you are doing here!

You are claiming to interpret Revelation literally, but ignoring the parts that are very literal, because they are totally contrary to your false interpretation. If the vax is the Mark of the Beast, then it must literally be a MARK in the head or hand. The vax leaves NO mark at all. Plus, it is given in the shoulder, not the hand or head. If you want to be literal, then you must make it all literal, not pick and choose which things are literal, which things are allegory. Pick a consistent hermeneutics, and stick with it!!

I won't even get into how wrong dispensationalism is. When Jesus returns, we will all know. That is what the Bible says. First:

"Look, he is coming with the clouds,”
and “every eye will see him,
even those who pierced him”;
and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.”
So shall it be! Amen." Rev 1:7

And next:
"Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Phil 2:9-11

Try and remember that Rev is difficult to interpret. People have claimed the end has come, since the Crusaders at the end of the first Millennium tried to conquer Jerusalem so Jesus could come down to stand in the Mount of Olives, as was prophesied in the Word.
"2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city. 3 Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights on a day of battle.4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south." Zechariah 14:2-4

As if Jesus needed help securing Jerusalem, as the Creator of the universe.

Jesus doesn't need your irrational, illogical and uneducated help figuring out who is his, if the Mark of the Beast is not allegorical, as the book is apocalyptic, not literal.

Try focusing on other verses in the Bible when you come in here. Like:

"Therefore if there is any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and mercy, 2 fulfill my joy by being like-minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind. 3 Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself. 4 Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others." Phil. 2:1-4

God is not pleased when believers condemn others born again Christians because they have a different interpretation of Revelation. You are inconsistent and brainwashed! Putting you in ignore now! No more false accusations.
So then, will you accept a mandatory chip implant in your right hand?

Revelation 13:16-17 (KJV)
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
 
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why is this thread in "Bible discussion" ???

if this is what any of you call Bible Discussion
you have a serious problem
The poll questions were Intended to lead Into bible verses and discussion and probably wouldn’t have led to So many responses so quickly but the discussion devolved Into carnality and would have been better In the news or In this case the conspiracy forum.
 

Duckybill

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So then, will you accept a mandatory chip implant in your right hand?

Revelation 13:16-17 (KJV)
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Hey, that might be a good poll.
 

Aidan1

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Prove it! You can't. You've been programmed!
It seems to me you fear people and Satan more then the almighty God. Maby you should change this.
Read Romans 8, and then tell me who is able to separate us from the love of God If you are his child.
A vaccation cant separate us from God!
The devil will say: should God has realy said that nothing can separate you from his love?

For that we have our fathers word, as also EG showed you in revealation 13.
 

Aidan1

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Prove it! You can't. You've been programmed!
And if you QUOTE rev. 13, then read the whole chapter. The people there are willingly either worship the beast or will be killed.
If someone is programmed, he has no own will.
Your teaching is false!
 

Duckybill

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It seems to me you fear people and Satan more then the almighty God. Maby you should change this.
Read Romans 8, and then tell me who is able to separate us from the love of God If you are his child.
A vaccation cant separate us from God!
The devil will say: should God has realy said that nothing can separate you from his love?

For that we have our fathers word, as also EG showed you in revealation 13.
SEEMS is the key word. That is your opinion.
 

Duckybill

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And if you QUOTE rev. 13, then read the whole chapter. The people there are willingly either worship the beast or will be killed.
If someone is programmed, he has no own will.
Your teaching is false!

You didn't answer my question.

"So then, will you accept a mandatory chip implant in your right hand?"


Revelation 13:16-17 (KJV)
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
 

Aidan1

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You didn't answer my question.

"So then, will you accept a mandatory chip implant in your right hand?"

Revelation 13:16-17 (KJV)
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Of course not. Or do you think Satan is more important for me then God.
But still your teaching is false! There is no programing of Christians.

In your last posts you are avoiding to accepting what stands in the bible( Romans 8, revealation 13)
Why?
You are trapped in your view that the vaccine is evil and programes the people?

Btw, i dont believe that Christians will be there in the tribulation time to worship the beast. I believe at this timepoint i will be with the Lord.
 

mailmandan

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On a different Christian forum site, someone who lives in Australia posted these videos to show that public outrage in Melbourne is reaching a boiling point and that many people are jobless, homeless, in debt, starving because of those senseless lockdowns... He pointed out these people are desperate... Their very lives are at stake and that of their families and friends... :(


 

Duckybill

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That's great!
Or do you think Satan is more important for me then God.
Why would you think that?
But still your teaching is false! There is no programing of Christians.
Anyone who believes the Satanic media has been programmed by Satan.
In your last posts you are avoiding to accepting what stands in the bible( Romans 8, revealation 13)
Why?
You are trapped in your view that the vaccine is evil and programes the people?
You don't think vaccinations will become mandatory?
Btw, i dont believe that Christians will be there in the tribulation time to worship the beast. I believe at this timepoint i will be with the Lord.
Revelation 7:9-14 (NKJV)
9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!"

13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, "Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?"14 And I said to him, "Sir, you know." So he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
 

John146

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I see a pulmonologust regularly, one of the best in my state, who treats other doctors.
He tells me to take the vaccine that it isn't perfect but it is safe and beneficial.

He treats many who live and many who die. I trust him far more than conspiracy nuts on the internet, in matters of my bodily health.

He hasn't advised me to take a booster yet. He is cautious. If he does I will, if he doesn't I won't. I sure as hell ain't making those decisions based on a thread like this on the internet. He doesn't and neither do I.
He's a believer, our brother. Do you curse him for his knowledge? It's his job & he does it with all his heart, as tho to God, not men.


Mate we ain't experts on this topic. But experts exist. Let's be wise
I’m trusting what I experienced being a cancer transplant patient with a lower immunity. I got COVID back in January, had a very rough start until I received the frontline meds. In literally six hours I was 100% better. This is the same testimony of many people I know.

A local doctor that I know personally, has treated over 3,000 COVID patients successfully with the meds. I’m not making this stuff up. Now, my immunity is superior to the shots, no boosters required.
 

John146

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Now you are the Accuser! I have said a million times I am against mandates. If it ever came to reporting people for not taking the vaxes, I barely know my neighbours, living in an acreage. And why would I report them, when I am against the mandates? You are a liar, but I will leave your sin to God! If someone wants to take a chance with COVID, that is their right. As for me, this vaccination was absolutely the right thing for me, with damaged lungs from pneumonias, asthma and Rheumatoid Lung Disease, and heart disease from RA. I could die any day, I know I belong to Jesus, and I will be with him. But after months of prayer, and talking to many doctors, reading about and understanding the mechanism of the m-RNA vaccine, I realized that God wanted me to live, not die of COVID pneumonia on a vent!
God told you to get vaxxed?
 

John146

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What exactly are these frontline meds? :unsure:
Hydroxy, ivermectin, prednisone, z pack, albuterol, high doses of zinc, vitamin d3, vitamin c, and quercetin.

And yes, ivermectin is completely safe for humans. It’s as safe as a baby aspirin.
 
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