Shrimps and piggmeat defiled
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Shrimp and pig meat may not be the healthiest for me, amigo, and I sure wouldn't want to offend anyone by eating them!
But nothing I can put in my body will make me unclean, as it is what comes out of the heart that defiles one.
I died, He lives, and dwells inside of me
I am finally assured of eternity! Hallelujah! tc
But nothing I can put in my body will make me unclean, as it is what comes out of the heart that defiles one.
I died, He lives, and dwells inside of me
I am finally assured of eternity! Hallelujah! tc
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In the Old Testament there were dietary rules for God's people the Jews because their soul was still uncircumcised to the flesh, thus the command to eat not, touch not. But under the blood of Jesus, the soul has been loosed from the flesh, therefore, the soul is not condemned by what the flesh touches or eats.
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Did you know...Spoc's "Live and and prosper" hand-sign was one-half of the Jewish Birkat Kohanim hand-sign, which was a symbol for the priestly blessing given by a Jewish priest in the temple? The blessing is still used today in many synagogues and churches.
The LORD bless you and protect you!
The LORD deal kindly and graciously with you!
The LORD bestow His favor upon you and grant you peace! - Numbers 6:24-26
The LORD bless you and protect you!
The LORD deal kindly and graciously with you!
The LORD bestow His favor upon you and grant you peace! - Numbers 6:24-26
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Did you know...Spoc's "Live and and prosper" hand-sign was one-half of the Jewish Birkat Kohanim hand-sign, which was a symbol for the priestly blessing given by a Jewish priest in the temple? The blessing is still used today in many synagogues and churches.
The LORD bless you and protect you!
The LORD deal kindly and graciously with you!
The LORD bestow His favor upon you and grant you peace! - Numbers 6:24-26
The LORD bless you and protect you!
The LORD deal kindly and graciously with you!
The LORD bestow His favor upon you and grant you peace! - Numbers 6:24-26
nope. had no idea of that
thanks for the info!
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"Therefore, if perfection was through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people have received the law), why is there yet a need for another priest to rise, after the order of Melchizedek, and not to be called after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there occurs a change of law also."—Hebrews 7:11-12.
The "other" priest who has arisen is Christ. Under the Old Covenant law no one could attain perfection, for the law was only a shadow and a type of the reality, which is Christ. Christians aren't under the Old Testament law but the Law of Christ. Jesus said in Matthew 15:11: "It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man."
God didn't change His mind; it was part of the plan all along.
The "other" priest who has arisen is Christ. Under the Old Covenant law no one could attain perfection, for the law was only a shadow and a type of the reality, which is Christ. Christians aren't under the Old Testament law but the Law of Christ. Jesus said in Matthew 15:11: "It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man."
God didn't change His mind; it was part of the plan all along.
Dietary laws were put in place for a practical reason. They are not spiritual, which is true of many of the 613 laws in Leviticus. The New Covenant is far less prescriptive because Christians should be led by the Spirit.
If pigs are bred and raised correctly, the meat is excellent, low in fat and high in iron. In the wild, they are prone to all kinds of diseases and parasites that can make people sick.
Shellfish and crustaceans generally tend to absorb heavy metals that can be detrimental to health. Again, precautions can be taken to make them safe to eat.
People seem to forget that God's laws were given to Israel and came through Moses. If a person wanted to become a Jew, then he became subject to Jewish law. This was no longer required in the New Covenant. For example, Jews had to be circumcised. Moses was threatened with death because he messed up on that issue. Now circumcision is spiritual, performed by God on the heart. No one is required to be circumcised. Likewise, no one is required to obey food laws.
It's interesting to look at all 613 commandments. They are not universal as some apply only to women or to priests etc. If you contracted leprosy, would you dismantle your house and burn it outside of town? Of course not. Yet that is the law of Moses. It is no longer necessary. The same applies to food laws. How do I know? God says so.
If pigs are bred and raised correctly, the meat is excellent, low in fat and high in iron. In the wild, they are prone to all kinds of diseases and parasites that can make people sick.
Shellfish and crustaceans generally tend to absorb heavy metals that can be detrimental to health. Again, precautions can be taken to make them safe to eat.
People seem to forget that God's laws were given to Israel and came through Moses. If a person wanted to become a Jew, then he became subject to Jewish law. This was no longer required in the New Covenant. For example, Jews had to be circumcised. Moses was threatened with death because he messed up on that issue. Now circumcision is spiritual, performed by God on the heart. No one is required to be circumcised. Likewise, no one is required to obey food laws.
It's interesting to look at all 613 commandments. They are not universal as some apply only to women or to priests etc. If you contracted leprosy, would you dismantle your house and burn it outside of town? Of course not. Yet that is the law of Moses. It is no longer necessary. The same applies to food laws. How do I know? God says so.
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Thank you. One of my not so fine moments was when I invited a visiting speaker to my home for dinner. He was Phantom pilot and he was in the negotiating team trying to get the US out of Vietnam. He was a Christian and could testify to God's protection during the war.
I made one of my favourite dishes which included ham and pineapple. I'm not much of a cook, so it was very basic. He didn't eat ham at all! So he fasted while I cringed a little.
I made one of my favourite dishes which included ham and pineapple. I'm not much of a cook, so it was very basic. He didn't eat ham at all! So he fasted while I cringed a little.
Jesus declared all foods clean in Luke 11:41 and Mark 7:15,19.
Paul also said that he was convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself, in Romans 14:14.
God didn't change his mind...He simply gave the dietary food laws to the Jewish people as a part of the covenant that He had made with them.
In Genesis 9, it is clear that Noah was allowed to eat all manner of meats.
And, while for those who seek to be justified through law-keeping, their works, or their personal merits, they are required to obey all of Moses' law perfectly from conception into eternity; yet it is also true that God did not give His law to the Gentiles (specifically the dietary food laws).
While all the world will be found guilty before God on the basis of the law of Moses (Romans 3:19-20) as they are judged by it as a standard of righteousness.
And therefore, for the one seeking to be justified on the basis of personal merit (whether they are Jew or Gentile), they are required to obey the food laws (Galatians 3:10, James 2:10, Matthew 5:48).
So the food laws still apply to the unbeliever as condemnation.
For the believer, it is the spirit of the law that governs him and he has been delivered from the condemnation of the letter (Romans 7:6).
Personally, I do my best to obey the food laws, not in order to obtain or keep my salvation; but rather as an expression to the Lord that I love Him. Abstaining from those savoury meats, which I love, is my way of saying to Jesus, "I love you more than anything".
Paul also said that he was convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself, in Romans 14:14.
God didn't change his mind...He simply gave the dietary food laws to the Jewish people as a part of the covenant that He had made with them.
In Genesis 9, it is clear that Noah was allowed to eat all manner of meats.
And, while for those who seek to be justified through law-keeping, their works, or their personal merits, they are required to obey all of Moses' law perfectly from conception into eternity; yet it is also true that God did not give His law to the Gentiles (specifically the dietary food laws).
While all the world will be found guilty before God on the basis of the law of Moses (Romans 3:19-20) as they are judged by it as a standard of righteousness.
And therefore, for the one seeking to be justified on the basis of personal merit (whether they are Jew or Gentile), they are required to obey the food laws (Galatians 3:10, James 2:10, Matthew 5:48).
So the food laws still apply to the unbeliever as condemnation.
For the believer, it is the spirit of the law that governs him and he has been delivered from the condemnation of the letter (Romans 7:6).
Personally, I do my best to obey the food laws, not in order to obtain or keep my salvation; but rather as an expression to the Lord that I love Him. Abstaining from those savoury meats, which I love, is my way of saying to Jesus, "I love you more than anything".
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
G37
ἁγιάζω
hagiazō
hag-ee-ad'-zo
From G40; to make holy, that is, (ceremonially) purify or consecrate; (mentally) to venerate: - hallow, be holy, sanctify.
Total KJV occurrences: 29
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
G37
ἁγιάζω
hagiazō
hag-ee-ad'-zo
From G40; to make holy, that is, (ceremonially) purify or consecrate; (mentally) to venerate: - hallow, be holy, sanctify.
Total KJV occurrences: 29
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Because the dietary laws were given to teach them separation from the idolatrous nations that surrounded them. They were to have nothing to do with these animals as a sign to these idolatrous neighbors who were using these animals in their sacrifices and idolatrous practices. It had nothing to do with nutrition. It was typology.
Now after the new birth, being born again, filled with the Spirit we have illumination and understanding about spiritual truths that are greater than these typological revelations. We have an understanding about holiness that is greater than aseticism. We know how to separate from sin in the heart and mind and be truly holy. What we eat has nothing to do with holiness. THAT IS WHAT HAS CHANGED.
They did not comprehend why they were to eat what they were to eat and why they were to not eat other things, other than it was an act of separation and to not be like the other nations. They were to just obey.
Some think that it was because of health. But they did not think that. They understood it as religious reasons not nutrition or health.
Modern writers have tried to apply it to health or sanitation because of the pig example but this does not apply to all of these animals.
You can try and make a sanitary point about pigs and shrimp but this line of reasoning fails with most of the other forbidden and Kosher animals. Lamb is a fatty meat that is less nutritious than rabbits. Rabbits are better for you than Lamb from a sanitary, scientific and nutrition analysis.
When he said not to seeth a kid in his mothers milk that was because the pagans did that in an attempt to get their false gods to bless their crops.
So in the same way the other forbidden animals had to do with being separate from the pagans.
Now we do this by not sinning with the lusts of the flesh as others do and living holy lives in purity of heart and mind devoted to Jesus in righteousness in works of love and separation from the lusts that are indulged in by the world around us.
Eating pork does not defile us. And the lesson does not need to be taught by not eating pork because now you should be able to understand what they could not before Jesus came and the Holy Spirit was given.
We don't go back to the typology of the OT which was a shadow of a lesson that we now understand in a better way from the Teachings of Jesus and the NT epistles.
That is what has changed.
Now after the new birth, being born again, filled with the Spirit we have illumination and understanding about spiritual truths that are greater than these typological revelations. We have an understanding about holiness that is greater than aseticism. We know how to separate from sin in the heart and mind and be truly holy. What we eat has nothing to do with holiness. THAT IS WHAT HAS CHANGED.
They did not comprehend why they were to eat what they were to eat and why they were to not eat other things, other than it was an act of separation and to not be like the other nations. They were to just obey.
Some think that it was because of health. But they did not think that. They understood it as religious reasons not nutrition or health.
Modern writers have tried to apply it to health or sanitation because of the pig example but this does not apply to all of these animals.
You can try and make a sanitary point about pigs and shrimp but this line of reasoning fails with most of the other forbidden and Kosher animals. Lamb is a fatty meat that is less nutritious than rabbits. Rabbits are better for you than Lamb from a sanitary, scientific and nutrition analysis.
When he said not to seeth a kid in his mothers milk that was because the pagans did that in an attempt to get their false gods to bless their crops.
So in the same way the other forbidden animals had to do with being separate from the pagans.
Now we do this by not sinning with the lusts of the flesh as others do and living holy lives in purity of heart and mind devoted to Jesus in righteousness in works of love and separation from the lusts that are indulged in by the world around us.
Eating pork does not defile us. And the lesson does not need to be taught by not eating pork because now you should be able to understand what they could not before Jesus came and the Holy Spirit was given.
We don't go back to the typology of the OT which was a shadow of a lesson that we now understand in a better way from the Teachings of Jesus and the NT epistles.
That is what has changed.
Posted first, Wednesday February 17th, 2016.
This morning the scripture comes to mind, Exodus 34:26-27, The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk. And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel."
After the tenor of these words is the Old Covenant predicated. These words testify to us what is the spirit of the law.
A. The first of the firtfruits of thy land shalt thou bring unto the house of the LORD thy God.
1. God wants us to put Him first. And that which we hold to be first in our lives we are to give to Him.
2. We are to take steps in giving Him what we hold to be first in our lives. The Israeites were to physically bring the firstfruits of the land to the house of the LORD.
B. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk.
1. We obey this because God tells us to obey it.
2. We obey this because it is against our moral sensibilities to seethe a kid in it mother's milk: to do so would be an abomination morally. Therefore the spirit of the law is to obey our moral sensibilities.
3. If not for the morality of the statement, one might think, "What's the big deal? Why can't I seethe a kid in its mother's milk? People don't like restrictions that don't carry an explanation. If one doesn't think about the commandment one might think that it is there for no reason and therefore disobedience would not seem like it is such a bad thing.
4. There has never been a necessity to seethe a kid in its mother's milk because the normal way to seethe a kid (baby goat lol) is to boil it in water.
5. In order to seethe a kid in its mother's milk one has to go out of their way.
6. To seethe a kid in its mother's milk may seem right to a person (for that it seems to be convenient) except for the fact that it is morally insensible. see Proverbs 16:25.
7. The tendency of the human heart is to test the boundaries and see what would happen if I seethed a kid in its mother's milk. If I did so, there would be no apparent harm done. Except that I would have violated the spirit of God's law and my heart would be corrupted so that greater immorality would not be a big deal to my conscience.
8. The wet paint principle is therefore inherent in the verse. Tell a sinful human being not to do something and he will want to do it and see why the restriction is there. see Romans 7:7-13
9. The spiritual mind is subject to the law of God. Someone with a born again heart will hear the commandment and say, "That is a morally sensible commandment and I will never do such a thing as to break it." see Romans 8:5-7.
10. These principles apply to every commandment in the OT and NT laws.
This morning the scripture comes to mind, Exodus 34:26-27, The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk. And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel."
After the tenor of these words is the Old Covenant predicated. These words testify to us what is the spirit of the law.
A. The first of the firtfruits of thy land shalt thou bring unto the house of the LORD thy God.
1. God wants us to put Him first. And that which we hold to be first in our lives we are to give to Him.
2. We are to take steps in giving Him what we hold to be first in our lives. The Israeites were to physically bring the firstfruits of the land to the house of the LORD.
B. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk.
1. We obey this because God tells us to obey it.
2. We obey this because it is against our moral sensibilities to seethe a kid in it mother's milk: to do so would be an abomination morally. Therefore the spirit of the law is to obey our moral sensibilities.
3. If not for the morality of the statement, one might think, "What's the big deal? Why can't I seethe a kid in its mother's milk? People don't like restrictions that don't carry an explanation. If one doesn't think about the commandment one might think that it is there for no reason and therefore disobedience would not seem like it is such a bad thing.
4. There has never been a necessity to seethe a kid in its mother's milk because the normal way to seethe a kid (baby goat lol) is to boil it in water.
5. In order to seethe a kid in its mother's milk one has to go out of their way.
6. To seethe a kid in its mother's milk may seem right to a person (for that it seems to be convenient) except for the fact that it is morally insensible. see Proverbs 16:25.
7. The tendency of the human heart is to test the boundaries and see what would happen if I seethed a kid in its mother's milk. If I did so, there would be no apparent harm done. Except that I would have violated the spirit of God's law and my heart would be corrupted so that greater immorality would not be a big deal to my conscience.
8. The wet paint principle is therefore inherent in the verse. Tell a sinful human being not to do something and he will want to do it and see why the restriction is there. see Romans 7:7-13
9. The spiritual mind is subject to the law of God. Someone with a born again heart will hear the commandment and say, "That is a morally sensible commandment and I will never do such a thing as to break it." see Romans 8:5-7.
10. These principles apply to every commandment in the OT and NT laws.