Donald Trump is part of the occult

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JTB

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Trump haters gonna hate, hate, hate! :devilish:
Obummer haters, Biden haters, Bush haters... Seems we all have a favorite thing or person to hate!
 

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Obummer haters, Biden haters, Bush haters... Seems we all have a favorite thing or person to hate!
I don't hate any of them, but I do recognize the differences between them.

Bush did little to improve the US and in some ways hurt the US.
Obummer did little if anything to help the US but did many things to hurt the US.
Bidet has done nothing but hurt the US.

In contrast President Donald John Trump has done more to help the US than any other President in recent history. Did he make mistakes? Of course he did, all humans do!

What I don't understand about the Trump haters (especially the Christian ones) is why they don't seem to get that absolutely no President can run a country by himself. There's just to many details and he has many people who are advising him. Not all of those people have him or this Countries best interest at heart and will do whatever they can to sabotage the Presidency.

In the case of President Trump almost everybody in Government was against him and to this day I'm still astonished at how much good he was able achieve given the opposition. Throw in the press lying about him nonstop, and the big tech censorship it becomes very clear he was one of a kind.

I see President Trump for what he is. A flawed individule who accomplished great things that very few if any could have done under the circumstances. Do I wish some of his decisions were different? Yes. But I also recognize that some if not all his bad decisions were made because of bad information he was fed.
 
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kaylagrl

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Trump haters gonna hate, hate, hate! :devilish:

You're putting words in my mouth, and I don't appreciate in the least. Gonna guess you're joking with the little purple dude. :devilish: and not serious.
 

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You're putting words in my mouth, and I don't appreciate in the least. Gonna guess you're joking with the little purple dude. :devilish: and not serious.
Putting words in your mouth was not the intent. I was reacting to the Trump haters. And yes I was serious with the :devilish: as the hate exhibited by the Trump bashers comes from beelzabub himself.
 
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kaylagrl

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Putting words in your mouth was not the intent. I was reacting to the Trump haters. And yes I was serious with the :devilish: as the hate exhibited by the Trump bashers comes from beelzabub himself.
Wasn't sure there, I did give you the benefit of the doubt. I actually don't understand the deal with Trump. I lost family members, literally, because of their hate of Trump. It was unreal.
 

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Wasn't sure there, I did give you the benefit of the doubt. I actually don't understand the deal with Trump. I lost family members, literally, because of their hate of Trump. It was unreal.
Imagine what happens when they learn of the AG's suing to reinstate Trump.
 

JTB

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I don't hate any of them, but I do recognize the differences between them.

Bush did little to improve the US and in some ways hurt the US.
Obummer did little if anything to help the US but did many things to hurt the US.
Bidet has done nothing but hurt the US.

In contrast President Donald John Trump has done more to help the US than any other President in recent history. Did he make mistakes? Of course he did, all humans do!

What I don't understand about the Trump haters (especially the Christian ones) is why they don't seem to get that absolutely no President can run a country by himself. There's just to many details and he has many people who are advising him. Not all of those people have him or this Countries best interest at heart and will do whatever they can to sabotage the Presidency.

In the case of President Trump almost everybody in Government was against him and to this day I'm still astonished at how much good he was able achieve given the opposition. Throw in the press lying about him nonstop, and the big tech censorship it becomes very clear he was one of a kind.

I see President Trump for what he is. A flawed individule who accomplished great things that very few if any could have done under the circumstances. Do I wish some of his decisions were different? Yes. But I also recognize that some if not all his bad decisions were made because of bad information he was fed.
Trump is nothing but another stepping stone towards the antichrist. God said that's where the world will end up and Trump AIN"T going to change that.
 

JTB

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Putting words in your mouth was not the intent. I was reacting to the Trump haters. And yes I was serious with the :devilish: as the hate exhibited by the Trump bashers comes from beelzabub himself.
Ok, define hate. If I'm against something, does that automatically make me a hater? Stop thinking of people with different opinions than yours as the enemy. Especially among your bothers and sisters in the Lord!!!
 

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Trump is nothing but another stepping stone towards the antichrist. God said that's where the world will end up and Trump AIN"T going to change that.

I do agree that Trump is just a stepping stone towards the antichrist, BUT so is everything else.

Ok, define hate. If I'm against something, does that automatically make me a hater? Stop thinking of people with different opinions than yours as the enemy. Especially among your bothers and sisters in the Lord!!!

Did you not also call people haters? And did you not also call yourself a hater by saying "we" in your comment below?

Obummer haters, Biden haters, Bush haters... Seems we all have a favorite thing or person to hate!

So please define away.
 
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kaylagrl

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Trump is nothing but another stepping stone towards the antichrist. God said that's where the world will end up and Trump AIN"T going to change that.

Every president has been another step towards the anti- Christ. smh We know the end already.
 
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kaylagrl

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Ok, define hate. If I'm against something, does that automatically make me a hater? Stop thinking of people with different opinions than yours as the enemy. Especially among your bothers and sisters in the Lord!!!
No, it's hate. I'm not talking of you specifically. But I've never seen such hate over a person in all my life. As I said, I lost family over it. Hate.
 

ZNP

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No, it's hate. I'm not talking of you specifically. But I've never seen such hate over a person in all my life. As I said, I lost family over it. Hate.
Mark Twain said it is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.
 
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Donald Trump did not really want to be president again and his presidency was all a role to be able to change the governmental format and cause harmony between people.

Trump played the bad guy on purpose so he could cause Republicans and Democrats to fight with each other and cause dissension, and chaos, and violence between them because it was all part of his plan.

Trump told United Nations that America laid a path of peace and security and wants the nations to step it up and work for peace like America, and said the United Nations should take more of a role in the world.

He said he wants a global government but would like it patterned after America where the nations thrive next to each other and keep their sovereignty.

The only way a global government will work is if all people are equal social status wise, and all division is taken away between them, and a balance between communism and democracy, and a balance between atheism and spirituality which is the new age movement interpretation of the Bible and religions(1 Timothy 4:1-5; 2 Timothy 4:2-4).

179 nations agreed to United Nations Agenda 21 in 1992 which is sustainability, economics, ecology, and social, and to ban the police and the citizens become the police force and fight crime because police and citizen is a division.

The United Nations wants a global government by 2030 and Donald Trump is for the global government, and knows how it must operate.

Donald Trump wanted to cause as much dissension between the two parties as possible according to his plan.

Black lives matter was pushing a socialist, Democrat, liberal agenda, and Agenda 21 with equality, and defund the police, and sustainability.

The Republicans, conservatives started buying guns and ammunition because they thought there might be a civil war.

There was fighting in the government more than in the past, and they thought Trump was arrogant, crazy, and obnoxious, but that is what he wanted them to think for it was all part of his plan.

Donald Trump was a Democrat but became a Republican president for he could use that party to be the most violent, and aggressive, for they are patriots, will fight to defend the constitution, and more apt to have guns.

It was the best party to choose according to his plan to cause dissension and fighting between the two parties.

Trump played the bad guy on purpose according to his plan to cause as much fighting as possible between the two parties that would escalate so much that people would be against the fighting and want a change, and be tired of Republican and Democrat.

Trump wants to start a new party called the Patriot Party and that was his plan to be president and cause chaos and then start a new party that would have Republican and Democrats coming to it that has a balance between the two parties eventually causing Republican and Democrat to phase out and bring the people together with one party.

Trump is going to have a new party that will be compatible with how the global government will operate in the future because he wants a global government and he knows how it has to operate for the nations to come together, and causing America to be stronger and more of an influence in the world.

Trump sacrificed his character to be the bad guy and will end up being the good guy and restoring his character as he tries to harmonize the Republicans and Democrats with a balance between them.

The new age movement will pave the way to the beast kingdom in Revelation 13.

Trump is following the new age movement plan and they do not believe the New Age Christ will help them to establish peace and evolve to be spiritual until the nations come together as one to work for peace on earth and Trump is working on that.

The New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East and will work in the world as a great man of peace, and the greatest influence in the world, and will push the agenda of the new age movement until the world rebels against God.

Trump pushes for peace in the Middle East more than any other president and made his son in law Jared Kushner senior advisor, and in charge of negotiating peace between the Jews and Palestinians, and he goes by the Kabbalah which is an occult interpretation of the Old Testament where the new age movement has an occult interpretation of the Bible.

Which Jared bought a building with the address 666 Fifth Street in Manhattan, New York, for he knows the significance of numbers in the occult.

The occult believes in the power of numbers and the timing, adding, and grouping of numbers that give them more power through nature which 6 is the number of a man, or the soul of a man, so the number 666, a triple 6, means more power through nature.

Donald Trump is part of the occult and is going about to implement the new age movement plan to have a global government and produce the New Age Christ, antichrist, which they believe he will establish peace in the world, and cause them to evolve to be spiritual which they believe Jesus evolved to be an ascended master but not Lord and Savior.

666 is 3 words Chi Xi Stigma, which Stigma is something placed under the skin for identification, and service to the antichrist.

Trump introduced a biometric system for people on temporary visas that can track them and said if they had that in place 911 could of been avoided.

The purpose of Donald Trump was to cause fighting between Republican and Democrat and then start a new party which both parties would be a part of it which is a balance between the two parties that will be compatible with how the global government will operate in the future, and to make America more of an influence in the world.

Trump will look like the good guy, apologize for his actions as president, and restore his character, and the Republican party and Democrat party will both lessen in influence until there is only the Patriot Party and the people as one.

On the back of the dollar bill announcing the conception of a new order of the ages, and out of many, one.

They had to get them away from the attitude of the 1950's by disrupting the 1960's which they wanted the counter culture movement, and taking prayer out of school and teaching evolution because to them evolution is religion and they are still evolving to be spiritual and there is no personal God.

Evolution caused them to interpret the Bible and religions differently.

1.Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2.Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3.Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4.For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5.For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer(1 Timothy 4:1-5).

God warns the saints of the new age movement, and their interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, and Jesus is not Lord and Savior, but a good teacher and love, and the Christ conscience came upon him, and he evolved to be an ascended master, and believe in no personal God, but honor the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power, the evolutionary process, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher, and they believe the Christ conscience will come upon him, and he will evolve to be greater than Jesus, and share this power with all people who follow him.

They will forbid to marry for a man and a woman for population reduction, and command to abstain from meats, reverence of nature, mother earth.

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables(2 Timothy 4:2-4).

The time will come when the world will not want to hear the truth of the Bible, but want to hear it according to their own lusts the new age movement.

Donald Trump is part of the new age movement the occult and evolution.

Democrat and Republican are working together at this point so Trump will have both parties joining his new party.
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Donald Trump I believe was actually used by God to bring Jerusalem back to being the Capital of Israel -----God will use whoever He wants to bring about His Plan in the last days -----He used a prostitute in the Old Testament to bring about His Will to be done -----so He can use the unsaved or Saved whenever He wants -----

Jerusalem had to be returned to the Jews before the last days could begin -----other Presidents said they would make Jerusalem the Capital but never did ------moving the US Embassy back to Jerusalem brought this about ----and it happened under Donald J Trump --like it or not -------

Dr David Jeremiah gives a sermon on just how important Jerusalem is in the last days ------

Very interesting video ----very well worth the listen ------

 

JTB

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Every president has been another step towards the anti- Christ. smh We know the end already.
That's what I keep trying to tell them.
 

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No, it's hate. I'm not talking of you specifically. But I've never seen such hate over a person in all my life. As I said, I lost family over it. Hate.
But that's nothing new. Hatred for our leaders has grown with each new one for decades. I believe there was a spike with Bush W, and let's not forget the vitriol that surrounded Obummer. It took another growth spurt with Trump, and is increasing again with "Brandon". I fully expect that when Trump LEGITIMATELY wins the election in 2024, that will be the end of this once great country.
 

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Donald Trump I believe was actually used by God to bring Jerusalem back to being the Capital of Israel -----God will use whoever He wants to bring about His Plan in the last days -----He used a prostitute in the Old Testament to bring about His Will to be done -----so He can use the unsaved or Saved whenever He wants -----

Jerusalem had to be returned to the Jews before the last days could begin -----other Presidents said they would make Jerusalem the Capital but never did ------moving the US Embassy back to Jerusalem brought this about ----and it happened under Donald J Trump --like it or not -------

Dr David Jeremiah gives a sermon on just how important Jerusalem is in the last days ------

Very interesting video ----very well worth the listen ------

And again, what does Revelation say about the person who finally brings peace to the middle east?
 

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But that's nothing new. Hatred for our leaders has grown with each new one for decades. I believe there was a spike with Bush W, and let's not forget the vitriol that surrounded Obummer. It took another growth spurt with Trump, and is increasing again with "Brandon". I fully expect that when Trump LEGITIMATELY wins the election in 2024, that will be the end of this once great country.
You don't think President Donald John Trump "LEGITIMATELY" Won the election in 2020? And are you saying that if he wins again in 2024 that he will bring about the end of the great USA?
 

JTB

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You don't think President Donald John Trump "LEGITIMATELY" Won the election in 2020? And are you saying that if he wins again in 2024 that he will bring about the end of the great USA?
No, Trump did not win the election. And he will decimate this country.

But you're going to believe what you want to believe so I'm not going to waste my time elaborating on it.

And no I'm not a libertard.
 

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No, Trump did not win the election. And he will decimate this country.

But you're going to believe what you want to believe so I'm not going to waste my time elaborating on it.

And no I'm not a libertard.
You obviously have discernment issues and I suggest you get on your knees and pray in Jesus name for some.