There are 5 but none of them are Islamic. Daniel 8:9 explains where the Little Horn must be born at (Greece) and Daniel 7:7-8 explains the 10 Horns (which means ALL the COMPLETE KINGDOMS, not 10) will arise out of the Fourth Beasts Head. In other words, all the DIVIDED KINGDOMS of Europe come together and give eir power unto ONE MAN, and he has to be born in Greece.
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Hi Rondonmon,
Glad you brought up that point. Now we know that when Alexander, leader of the Greek empire, died that his legacy was to tow great Empires. The Seleucid Dynasty, identified as Assyria, the king of the North, and the Ptolomaic Dynasty, the king of the South, ie. Egypt. In Dan. 11: 40 we see that we are to jump two thousand years until the `time of the end.` These tow areas in the Middle east would again return to the focus of world attention. Each contending for key leadership of the Arab countries, to be recognised as the Moslem Messiah.
Glad you brought up that point. Now we know that when Alexander, leader of the Greek empire, died that his legacy was to tow great Empires. The Seleucid Dynasty, identified as Assyria, the king of the North, and the Ptolomaic Dynasty, the king of the South, ie. Egypt. In Dan. 11: 40 we see that we are to jump two thousand years until the `time of the end.` These tow areas in the Middle east would again return to the focus of world attention. Each contending for key leadership of the Arab countries, to be recognised as the Moslem Messiah.
You are making up or coming to a wrong conclusion via the Moslem Messiah notion by misunderstanding the scriptures via Dan. 11:40-43 and not understanding the simple 4 Way Directional Box God gave us in Dan. 8:9 that can not be misinterpreted. He CONQUERS TOWARDS is the key, and it's not a two kingdom/two general kingdom it was Four Generals and four kingdoms, of which only three had real power and are real players in the end time.
Dan. 8:8 Therefore the he goat (Alexander) waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven. (Here is your FOUR-WAY DIRECTIONAL BOX)
9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn(Anti-Christ), which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.(Israel)
Now, seeing as the Little Horn/Beast waxes GREAT TOWARDS Israel we understand that has to mean He CONQUERS via the TOWARDS in each case !! Thus the Anti-Christ Conquers TOWARDS the East (Towards Seleucus/Turkey) and he also Conquers TOWARDS Ptolomey/Egypt) Thus this Little Horn/Anti-Christ can only attack from the Northwest Corridor of this simplistic FOUR-WAY DIRECTIONAL BOX.
Now, we can understand by looking at this map that Seleucus/Turkey can not Conquer TOWARDS the East in this inner-kingdom struggle and Ptolemy/Egypt can not conquer TOWARDS the South. Thus the only one that can Conquer towards ALL THREE that are mentioned in Dan. 8:9 is Macedonia/Cassander or as we now know it Greece.
Why do you think we get a DETAILED RUNDOWN of every Greek King in Daniel 11 from Alexander the Great to Antiochus the TYPE Anti-Christ? Because the Little Horn as seen in Dan. 11:40-43 is also a Greek-born King, but he comes to power out of the Fourth Beasts Head (10 Horns that represent COMPLETE Europe). He has Assyrian blood (Turkish blood) but Turkey and Greece have a common border. Thus he will be as Isaiah 10 says The Assyrian (Assyria was mostly Northern Iraq and Southern Turkey with some of Syria also) who I think is a Turk born in Greece, who then has the Birthright to be the E.U. President.
Now understanding the parameters, we see that the Dan. 11:40-43 King of the North is the King of the North which means he is from Greece/Europe. He conquers not only Israel but the Whole Mediterranean Sea Region.
Dan. 8:8 Therefore the he goat (Alexander) waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven. (Here is your FOUR-WAY DIRECTIONAL BOX)
9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn(Anti-Christ), which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.(Israel)
Now, seeing as the Little Horn/Beast waxes GREAT TOWARDS Israel we understand that has to mean He CONQUERS via the TOWARDS in each case !! Thus the Anti-Christ Conquers TOWARDS the East (Towards Seleucus/Turkey) and he also Conquers TOWARDS Ptolomey/Egypt) Thus this Little Horn/Anti-Christ can only attack from the Northwest Corridor of this simplistic FOUR-WAY DIRECTIONAL BOX.
Now, we can understand by looking at this map that Seleucus/Turkey can not Conquer TOWARDS the East in this inner-kingdom struggle and Ptolemy/Egypt can not conquer TOWARDS the South. Thus the only one that can Conquer towards ALL THREE that are mentioned in Dan. 8:9 is Macedonia/Cassander or as we now know it Greece.
Why do you think we get a DETAILED RUNDOWN of every Greek King in Daniel 11 from Alexander the Great to Antiochus the TYPE Anti-Christ? Because the Little Horn as seen in Dan. 11:40-43 is also a Greek-born King, but he comes to power out of the Fourth Beasts Head (10 Horns that represent COMPLETE Europe). He has Assyrian blood (Turkish blood) but Turkey and Greece have a common border. Thus he will be as Isaiah 10 says The Assyrian (Assyria was mostly Northern Iraq and Southern Turkey with some of Syria also) who I think is a Turk born in Greece, who then has the Birthright to be the E.U. President.
Now understanding the parameters, we see that the Dan. 11:40-43 King of the North is the King of the North which means he is from Greece/Europe. He conquers not only Israel but the Whole Mediterranean Sea Region.
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I wanted to speculate somewhat on these 10 toes. Daniel says in chapter 2:
41 And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay. 42 And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
Now I wondered because of the timing of the 10 kings coming together in the tribulation whether the clay are human souls and the iron are angels. Just food for thought.
Rev 12: 9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.
41 And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay. 42 And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
Now I wondered because of the timing of the 10 kings coming together in the tribulation whether the clay are human souls and the iron are angels. Just food for thought.
Rev 12: 9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.
No, the 10 = COMPLETION, thus it now represents 26 Nations whereas with the UK it was 27 Nations. Try as they might these could never reunite, Charlgemeign tried it, Napolean tried as did Hitler, to no avail. Where it states in verse 43 that they Mingle themselves with the seed on men, that is referring to Royal Marriges that still did not reunify the Beast System in Europe.
Dan. 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men(Royal Marriage): but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
So, try as they might via Wars and Royal Marriage, Gid had decreed they would be as Iron and Clay and not reunify until te very end times when they are allowed to reunite after Israel becomes a nation again, and even then they would be PARTLY STRONG (as in France, Germany, Spain, etc.) and PARTLY WEAK (as in Latvia, Malta, Cyprus Estonia, etc., etc.) As Iron and Clay don't mix or BIND TOGETHER, these Nations will not be allowed to REUNITE until after Israel's Dead Men's Bone are revived by God (1948) then within 10 years we got the Council of Rome which started the European Reunification process because God allowed it to happen. But even when Reunited, they are partly weak and partly strong, not ONE NATION per se but 10 (or MANY NATIONS/The Complete number thereof) combined into ONE VOICE who are SEPERATE Kingdoms, who freely give other power over unto ONE MAN. If let's say Germany had conquered all Europe and unified them, they would be a more cohesive force now, even if by dictate. But since they are MANY NATIONS they will never be as Strong as under one ruler. Ths is why they are partly strong and partly weak.
Sees you guy should just do a chat messaging. You don't really want a thread It seems, or either I am so over your heads you just can't even comprehend these things. You guys are guessing, the Holy Spirit reveals all, why Guess?
Dan. 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men(Royal Marriage): but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
So, try as they might via Wars and Royal Marriage, Gid had decreed they would be as Iron and Clay and not reunify until te very end times when they are allowed to reunite after Israel becomes a nation again, and even then they would be PARTLY STRONG (as in France, Germany, Spain, etc.) and PARTLY WEAK (as in Latvia, Malta, Cyprus Estonia, etc., etc.) As Iron and Clay don't mix or BIND TOGETHER, these Nations will not be allowed to REUNITE until after Israel's Dead Men's Bone are revived by God (1948) then within 10 years we got the Council of Rome which started the European Reunification process because God allowed it to happen. But even when Reunited, they are partly weak and partly strong, not ONE NATION per se but 10 (or MANY NATIONS/The Complete number thereof) combined into ONE VOICE who are SEPERATE Kingdoms, who freely give other power over unto ONE MAN. If let's say Germany had conquered all Europe and unified them, they would be a more cohesive force now, even if by dictate. But since they are MANY NATIONS they will never be as Strong as under one ruler. Ths is why they are partly strong and partly weak.
Sees you guy should just do a chat messaging. You don't really want a thread It seems, or either I am so over your heads you just can't even comprehend these things. You guys are guessing, the Holy Spirit reveals all, why Guess?
Well, there were 28 nations and now 27 without Britain to be precise. What about the League of nations and now the UNO: all the nations are supposed to work together through this type of organizations. When something has to be done against a country it's the UNO which is supposed to decide!
No it belongs to the past, that's over, I mean what's left during our time, I mean it would be more interesting for people! There are so many versions!
No it belongs to the past, that's over, I mean what's left during our time, I mean it would be more interesting for people! There are so many versions!
Hi Rondonmon,
Yes we know that the kingdom was divided between the 4 generals, good that you clarified that. However in scripture we see that God is only focused on the king/leader of the north and the south of ISRAEL. And that is the Assyrian region (north - Iraq, Syria & Jordan) and Egypt, (south).
Yes we know that the kingdom was divided between the 4 generals, good that you clarified that. However in scripture we see that God is only focused on the king/leader of the north and the south of ISRAEL. And that is the Assyrian region (north - Iraq, Syria & Jordan) and Egypt, (south).
Hi Omegatime,
Not really into speculation, but looking in God`s word. The 10 toes/kings form a Federation with the A/C. He is the Assyrian, (Isa. 31: 8, region of Iraq, Syria & Jordan) king of the north, (of Israel), with the city of Babylon in his region, (Iraq) .
Thus the 10 kings/leaders are from -
3 - Iraq, Syria & Jordan.
7 - Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Omar, Yemen, Saudi Arabia.
The `clay and iron` represents the Sunni & Shi-ite divisions of Islam.
Not really into speculation, but looking in God`s word. The 10 toes/kings form a Federation with the A/C. He is the Assyrian, (Isa. 31: 8, region of Iraq, Syria & Jordan) king of the north, (of Israel), with the city of Babylon in his region, (Iraq) .
Thus the 10 kings/leaders are from -
3 - Iraq, Syria & Jordan.
7 - Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Omar, Yemen, Saudi Arabia.
The `clay and iron` represents the Sunni & Shi-ite divisions of Islam.
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When you read between the lines, it is God who have Nebuchadnezzar that dream, and it is God who gave Daniel the interpretation. This dream sets the stage for all the other visions of Daniel and their interpretation, and they are all related. So the Stone of Nebuchadnezzar's dream is also the Stone which the bullder's rejected -- which is Christ. And it is Christ who will establish His eternal Kingdom on earth after His Second Coming. And all other kingdoms will be destroyed.
DANIEL 7: THE FUTURE ETERNAL KINGDOM OF CHRIST
13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of Man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of Days, and they brought him near before him. 14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a Kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his Kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
The "clouds of Heaven" are not ordinary clouds but clouds of saints and angels surrounding Christ at His Second Coming (Rev 1:7).
DANIEL 7: THE FUTURE ETERNAL KINGDOM OF CHRIST
13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of Man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of Days, and they brought him near before him. 14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a Kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his Kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
The "clouds of Heaven" are not ordinary clouds but clouds of saints and angels surrounding Christ at His Second Coming (Rev 1:7).
Incorrect Marylin, that is the Cassander Region in the end times, as I showed via Scripture. He Conquers TOWARDS the South and TOWARDS the East. Meaning it can only be the Macedonian/Cassander/Greece region, this can only be an inter-nation/inter-kingdom struggle, it's not about the Seleucus Kingdom conquering outside this area by conquering Iraq or Iran to the East. It's not about Egypt Conquering unto its South, thus the only portion of this kingdom that can conquer towards both the East and South is the kingdom from the Northwest, or Greece, where all of these Kings were born. When we come to a conclusion then try to fit in answers we go off course.
Antiochus was a Greek King, he is the TYPE Anti-Christ. He was killed by a Disease on the astern front. Jesus will kill the Anti-Christ by SPEAKING VICTORY or Without Hand. Antiochus had a High Priest he appointed named Jason who was a TYPE False Prophet.
The Assyrian is the Blood type, he will be of Turkish descent, but born in Greece, thus he can ARISE amongst the 10 which stands for ALL Europe, Turkey, Syria nor Egypt is in the E.U. thus no one born there can ever be the E.U. President.
The Anti-Christ has to meet three qualifications, he has to be a Turk/Iraqi (Assyrian) and he will IMHO, be a Turk, and Turkey has a common border with Israel. He has to be born in Greece, and thus he is eligible to become the E.U. President. The Roman Empire REBOOT HAS TO HAVE Europe in ot in order to look like Old Rome, thus it covers the same landmass when it Conquers the areas shown in Dan. 11:40-43.
It's not a Muslim, Satan is just a very good liar.
Antiochus was a Greek King, he is the TYPE Anti-Christ. He was killed by a Disease on the astern front. Jesus will kill the Anti-Christ by SPEAKING VICTORY or Without Hand. Antiochus had a High Priest he appointed named Jason who was a TYPE False Prophet.
The Assyrian is the Blood type, he will be of Turkish descent, but born in Greece, thus he can ARISE amongst the 10 which stands for ALL Europe, Turkey, Syria nor Egypt is in the E.U. thus no one born there can ever be the E.U. President.
The Anti-Christ has to meet three qualifications, he has to be a Turk/Iraqi (Assyrian) and he will IMHO, be a Turk, and Turkey has a common border with Israel. He has to be born in Greece, and thus he is eligible to become the E.U. President. The Roman Empire REBOOT HAS TO HAVE Europe in ot in order to look like Old Rome, thus it covers the same landmass when it Conquers the areas shown in Dan. 11:40-43.
It's not a Muslim, Satan is just a very good liar.
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He ten kings will come out of the 4th empire. “Rome” It is part iron it is weak because it is fragmented. While you have ten kingdoms giving its allegiance to the one (see further in Daniel) It is still fragmented. Unlike the legs of Iron (rome in Christs day) where it was run by the ceasar who had full control
This kingdom will also be destroyed by the Christ himself. At his return
This kingdom will also be destroyed by the Christ himself. At his return
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Where do you get turkey iraq Syrian from?
He is from rome, or the Roman Empire (legs of iron) the ten nation conglomerate is ten nation states who are part of rome. That give their resources and power to the antichrist. If europe today put all their resources together. They would have more resources, more power and more numbers than the united stated, they would instantly become a world power. You would basically have europe. Russia and CHina as the three supper powers (the United States is not mentioned. And has most likely crumbled as a super power. If we keep going like we are. It will nto take long for that to happen.)
He is from rome, or the Roman Empire (legs of iron) the ten nation conglomerate is ten nation states who are part of rome. That give their resources and power to the antichrist. If europe today put all their resources together. They would have more resources, more power and more numbers than the united stated, they would instantly become a world power. You would basically have europe. Russia and CHina as the three supper powers (the United States is not mentioned. And has most likely crumbled as a super power. If we keep going like we are. It will nto take long for that to happen.)
`You, O king, are a king of kings. For the God of heaven has given you a kingdom, power, strength and glory: and wherever the children of men dwell, or the beasts of the field and the birds of the heaven, He has given them into your hand, and has made you ruler over them all - you are this head of gold.
But after you shall arise another kingdom inferior to your; then another, a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over ALL THE EARTH.` (Dan. 2: 37 - 39)
But after you shall arise another kingdom inferior to your; then another, a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over ALL THE EARTH.` (Dan. 2: 37 - 39)
Thanks… it’s sadly rare that people actually support their claims. Greece was the third kingdom, and never ruled over Britain, Scandinavia, or China. That non-Christians still rule the nations (all of them) does not mean that Jesus’ kingdom has not come, for it came when He was born and has been growing since.