John Hagee—False Prophet

[ResidentAlien]

It never ends. In the following clip John Hagee says Jesus never claimed to be the Jewish Messiah. He's plugging a book which he calls a "shocking expose." I'll agree with the shocking part.

Hagee claims that Jesus came as the Savior of the World but not the Jewish Messiah. It's obvious what he's doing; he's saying Israel deserves our support because they didn't really reject or crucify the Messiah. I agree the Jewish people as a whole can't be held responsible for something their ancestors did centuries ago. But Hagee's taken it a step too far into the realm of fiction.

He's clearly a liar; Matthew 15:24 proves that: "But He answered and said, 'I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.' "!

In the next clip, Hagee says Jesus will return in 2014-2015. No question about it: John Hagee? Wolf in sheep's clothing! He says that everyone should get copies of his book for all their unsaved friends and relatives. I'd say if you have any Hagee books at all you should throw them in the trash and tell others to do likewise.

 

[Ogom]

books can make people think. maybe he has been thinking about things.

Israel -- the term is seen by different people different ways when they read it in the Bible according probably alot by just reading ro learn and/ or according to how they already believe.
however, it is the Spirit that leads into all truth... not our beliefs, except where /when they lead truthful enough. but they can also blind people greatly -- to other ways of thinking. possible truth /truths the Spirit might be trying to wake us up to or tell us about -- through others.....

 

[Omegatime]

Hagee is sorely wrong saying Jesus was not the jewish messiah. He had been wrong about many things but I do believe he is a christian, just misguided.

 

[Nehemiah6]

It never ends. In the following clip John Hagee says Jesus never claimed to be the Jewish Messiah.

Yes, it is extremely sad that John Hagee has gone off the rails with his bizarre doctrine about the Jews and Israel. It is not only damaging to Jews but to all Christians. So he is definitely a false teacher, perhaps a false prophet also.

There is absolutely NO QUESTION that Jesus of Nazareth came to Israel as their Messiah/King and the triumphal entry into Jerusalem riding on a donkey was confirmation of that fact.

Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. (Zech 9:9)

MATTHEW 21: CHRIST'S TRIUMPHAL ENTRY INTO JERUSALEM
1 And when they drew nigh unto Jerusalem, and were come to Bethphage, unto the mount of Olives, then sent Jesus two disciples, 2 Saying unto them, Go into the village over against you, and straightway ye shall find an ass tied, and a colt with her: loose them, and bring them unto me. 3 And if any man say ought unto you, ye shall say, The Lord hath need of them; and straightway he will send them. 4 All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, 5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.

But within days, the nation of Israel rejected Him and clamored for His crucifixion. God did hold Israel accountable for the "murder" of Christ. At the same time salvation is now offered to all -- Jews and Gentiles -- until the Second Coming of Christ.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Hagee is sorely wrong saying Jesus was not the jewish messiah. He had been wrong about many things but I do believe he is a christian, just misguided.

A so-called Christian who is leading people astray to sell books.

 

[Nehemiah6]

A so-called Christian who is leading people astray to sell books.

What gives you the right to call Hagee " a so-called Christian"? Only God knows who is a child of God. And not everything the Hagee preaches is false. You seem to be spending too much time doing heresy hunting instead of focusing on things which matter.

 

[Gardenias]

It never ends. In the following clip John Hagee says Jesus never claimed to be the Jewish Messiah. He's plugging a book which he calls a "shocking expose." I'll agree with the shocking part.

Hagee claims that Jesus came as the Savior of the World but not the Jewish Messiah. It's obvious what he's doing; he's saying Israel deserves our support because they didn't really reject or crucify the Messiah. I agree the Jewish people as a whole can't be held responsible for something their ancestors did centuries ago. But Hagee's taken it a step too far into the realm of fiction.

He's clearly a liar; Matthew 15:24 proves that: "But He answered and said, 'I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.' "!

In the next clip, Hagee says Jesus will return in 2014-2015. No question about it: John Hagee? Wolf in sheep's clothing! He says that everyone should get copies of his book for all their unsaved friends and relatives. I'd say if you have any Hagee books at all you should throw them in the trash and tell others to do likewise.

This is sad. He used to be well respected and stood for the truth just as Charles Stanley did. I watched them both vetting scripture with scripture.
Time has caused these to fall due to fame,money and greed.
I no longer watch any preacher on tv,when our eyes are on man,they are not on God.
For me the disappointment started with Jimmy Swaggart.
I do believe these can repent and God can forgive!

 

[seed_time_harvest]

This is sad. He used to be well respected and stood for the truth just as Charles Stanley did. I watched them both vetting scripture with scripture.
Time has caused these to fall due to fame,money and greed.
I no longer watch any preacher on tv,when our eyes are on man,they are not on God.
For me the disappointment started with Jimmy Swaggart.
I do believe these can repent and God can forgive!

Doesn't Stanley believe In OSAS?

 

[CherieR]

Doesn't Stanley believe In OSAS?

I believe so. He wrote a book called “ Eternal Security “

 

[AandW]

There are several reasons we give passes to Men of God, because, we read how God gave similar passes to His chosen Vessels used to lead His People, Israel. But you cannot Ignore when someone removes proven Scripture, including the very Words of Christ Himself.

 

[DavidTree]

It never ends. In the following clip John Hagee says Jesus never claimed to be the Jewish Messiah. He's plugging a book which he calls a "shocking expose." I'll agree with the shocking part.

Hagee claims that Jesus came as the Savior of the World but not the Jewish Messiah. It's obvious what he's doing; he's saying Israel deserves our support because they didn't really reject or crucify the Messiah. I agree the Jewish people as a whole can't be held responsible for something their ancestors did centuries ago. But Hagee's taken it a step too far into the realm of fiction.

He's clearly a liar; Matthew 15:24 proves that: "But He answered and said, 'I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.' "!

In the next clip, Hagee says Jesus will return in 2014-2015. No question about it: John Hagee? Wolf in sheep's clothing! He says that everyone should get copies of his book for all their unsaved friends and relatives. I'd say if you have any Hagee books at all you should throw them in the trash and tell others to do likewise.

Every generation of Jews since they crucified their Messiah is still doing the SAME crucifiying of the Name of Christ and Who He IS.

The only Jews and Gentiles who escape this condemnation are the "called out ones" = His Elect/His Body?His People

Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

 

[ResidentAlien]

https://julieroys.com/new-christian-right-rally-curse-biden/

Hagee's Cornerstone Church hosted the Reawaken America Tour November 11-13. General Michael Flynn is quoted as saying: "If we are going to have one nation under God—which we must—we have to have one religion. One nation under God, and one religion under God."

Not only did Hagee allow these idiots to use his facilities—and was probably paid handsomely for it—but he then puts out a cowardly statement distancing himself from them: "This past week, Cornerstone Church facilities were used by an outside organization," the statement read. "Cornerstone Church is not associated with this organization and does not endorse their views."

If they don't endorse their views, why in the world let them use their facilities?

 

[Vindicator]

Curious.

His claim in the trailer is that "Jesus did not come to earth to be the Messiah." The video creator seems to be arguing against him saying, "Jesus is not the Messiah," but I'm not certain that's what Hagee is actually contending for. I think he is likely arguing that Jesus did not come to establish his kingdom on earth the first time (which he didnt. He came to die for our sins), and thus did not reveal to the Jews He was the Messiah yet (which in reality He didn't. God revealed it to Peter and He acknowledged it, but He didn't exactly go shouting it from the rooftops to the Pharisees, scribes, priests and Sanhedrin).

I would like to believe (for Hagee's sake) that he is still acknowledging that Jesus WAS the Messiah, but only that He didn't come trying to reveal that to most of the Jews. If so, he might have a slim chance of making a case, since He often only revealed things to the disciples and no one else.

Has anyone actually read the book yet? I'm curious to know more. I truly hope Hagee isn't going completely off the deep end now.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Curious.

His claim in the trailer is that "Jesus did not come to earth to be the Messiah." The video creator seems to be arguing against him saying, "Jesus is not the Messiah," but I'm not certain that's what Hagee is actually contending for. I think he is likely arguing that Jesus did not come to establish his kingdom on earth the first time (which he didnt. He came to die for our sins), and thus did not reveal to the Jews He was the Messiah yet (which in reality He didn't. God revealed it to Peter and He acknowledged it, but He didn't exactly go shouting it from the rooftops to the Pharisees, scribes, priests and Sanhedrin).

I would like to believe (for Hagee's sake) that he is still acknowledging that Jesus WAS the Messiah, but only that He didn't come trying to reveal that to most of the Jews. If so, he might have a slim chance of making a case, since He often only revealed things to the disciples and no one else.

Has anyone actually read the book yet? I'm curious to know more. I truly hope Hagee isn't going completely off the deep end now.

I think you may have a point. There are a few good reviews of the book online.

https://tentmaker.org/blog1/a-revie...hn-hagee-written-by-kenneth-l-gentry-jr-th-d/

https://truedsicernment.com/2007/10/22/a-review-of-in-defense-of-israel-by-john-hagee/

From what I understand from these, Hagee's argument is Jesus never claimed to be the Messiah they were expecting. He refused to be made king and didn't go out of His way to broadcast He was the Messiah. But He was the Messiah, just not the one the Jews were expecting.

What Hagee's done is a clever slight of hand. He wants to absolve the Jews of any responsibility for rejecting the Messiah because Jesus never claimed to be the Messiah they thought He should be. In the blurb, Hagee states: "Since Jesus refused by word and deed to claim to be the Messiah, how can the Jews be blamed for rejecting what was never offered?" But this is flatly false. By His words and deeds He did claim to be the Messiah.

What Hagee has done is actually more deceptive and devious than I originally thought.

 

[soberxp]

If others say I am a false prophet, I may feel puzzled. First, define what is a false prophet. If a person's interpretation of the Bible cannot be accepted as a false prophet, many of our wrong understandings when we first learn the Bible can be defined as a false prophet.

 

[ResidentAlien]

If others say I am a false prophet, I may feel puzzled. First, define what is a false prophet. If a person's interpretation of the Bible cannot be accepted as a false prophet, many of our wrong understandings when we first learn the Bible can be defined as a false prophet.

No one's saying you're a false prophet.

 

[soberxp]

By the way, he never say : look, Lord is here in the house.
He Just somehow mad and thinking about Jesus return at 2014-2015.
But Jesus has come for me at 2008.10.10 Good Friday.
Jesus coming with the could in the form of cloud.
Seeing that you are still arguing about when Jesus will come, I am lucky guy.
But I'm also confused. Is Jesus coming like this? The situation is different from that in the Bible.
Does God's word fail?
You haven't experienced it personally. It's hard for you to understand my feelings.

I am a tiny person among billions of people. How can I make others believe me that I really saw Jesus coming?

what if I failed to let others believe in me?

 

[soberxp]

No one's saying you're a false prophet.

When I told you that I have seen his second coming,you may think that I am a false one.

 

[Aerials1978]

Well, I think he’s trying to sell a book, and it’s only going for $3.50…..

 

[soberxp]

Well, I think he’s trying to sell a book, and it’s only going for $3.50…..

Reasonable reasons...but we don't know the heart and mind of him.