Vaccination?

[Angela53510]

Here is my my objection to what is happening in this forum from anti-vaxers in Canada! I'm totally disgusted by this! One of them was in the city where I live!

I write this yesterday and published in a few places!

Lest we forget!

Grandstanding on Remembrance Day is the worst kind of cowardly behaviour by the antivaxers in my town and other places.

On the weekend, have your own antivax protest. Don't hijack this day to honour our soldiers, including my Grandfather who fought as Passaendale in WWI, came back injured and was in pain the rest of his life.

I am against mandates, even though I have had 3 shots, because I am such high risk. This mandate has gone too far. But now, I wonder if I am right to feel mandates are wrong, when I see this incredible rudeness and selfishness of anti-vaxers who destroy the very memory of our soldiers by their forcing this debate in the wrong forum, the wrong place and the wrong time. It could have even been left till the afternoon, but these attention grabbing individuals put their own interests above this 75 year old tradition! Completely disgusted with anti-vaxers, today!

"A day of sombre reflection and gratitude for Canada's war veterans was marred by individuals spreading anti-vaccination messages in at least three B.C. cities on Thursday."
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/it-s-just-so-...pread-message-in-several-b-c-cities-1.5662657

 

[Angela53510]

Here are the stats for BC, Canada

"Most of the people testing positive in B.C. are not fully vaccinated against COVID-19. The unvaccinated made up 58.2 per cent of new cases in the province between Nov. 1 and 7, despite accounting for less than 20 per cent of the total population of the province, including children under age 12, who are not yet eligible for COVID-19 vaccines.

According to the surveillance dashboard, the province saw 139.5 cases per 10,000 residents among unvaccinated people between Oct. 12 and Nov. 8, compared to 34.9 cases per 10,000 among those with one dose of vaccine and 14.2 per 10,000 among those with both doses.

The latest data from the B.C. Centre for Disease Control's COVID-19 Surveillance Dashboard shows which parts of the province are seeing the most coronavirus transmission.
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/these-are-the-b-c-regions-that-had-the-most-covid-19-cases-last-week-1.5661071

As you can see in the 2nd paragraph, the rate of COVID cases is TEN TIMES the rate of vaccinated cases. Taking the vax was extremely important for me. But also for many others in this province!

 

[Angela53510]

Missed this article earlier!! The article is about a video showing a rude vaxer causing problems for someone who is not vaxxed.

It was pure lies! Filmed to make people who get vaxed to look like rude, selfish people. A farce! Why are antivaxers lowering themselves to the level of lies and mischief? I know it hope that most people in this forum would not stoop to this level. But it sure makes me realize that when one side has to resort to this, their side doesn't have a leg to stand on! No evidence, just lies!!

"A popular anti-vaccine video of an angry woman ranting on a commercial plane about an unvaccinated passenger is actually a scene from a short film that was staged and shared on social media to gain mass attention.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coron...vaccinated-man-on-flight-isn-t-real-1.5662256

 

[montana123]

It is the end time so we know that it is the time of deceitfulness, manipulation, lying, and trying to lead the people to go in the direction of a kingdom that will rebel against God and has been in the working at least since Russia became communist in 1922.

That is all that it is about but it is strange that Christians are divided on the vaccine and other things concerning the end time when the Spirit guides all people to the truth.

The vaccine is part of that deceitfulness and these people that are manipulating things are of the occult and interpret the Bible according to evolution and they are still evolving so they think they are doing the will of God the God of forces which is the operation of nature the evolutionary process.

So they will not care about people as they believe many people have to be off the planet for that is what nature wants.

It would seem like of course the vaccine is part of that plan to establish the kingdom to come.

The Hegel System sets up 2 opposing forces and then harmonizes them together which they believe is a better system than each other alone.

They believe both systems to be valid reality but split them in to 2 for people will choose a side and then come together which brings the people together with a system that reflects both sides that they believe to be true.

They cannot come out with being one sided for they would be rejected by many people so they are 2 sided then come together one sided and brings the people together.

Russia was set up Communism, atheist.

America was set up Capitalism, religious.

The one world government will be a balance between democracy and socialism.

Their religious system will be a balance between atheism and spirituality which is the new age movement atheist but spiritual for they believe they are still evolving to be spiritual and the higher power is the God of forces or the power of nature.

America and Russia have been working together the whole time for many years and are the 2 opposing forces in the Hegel System.

Republican and Democrat is also a Hegel principle as 2 opposing forces but actually working together.

The vaccine is part of their deceitful plan as they slowly try to shift the world towards the New Age Christ kingdom.

United Nations Agenda 21 which they want implemented by 2030 which is a sustainability act the nations agreed to it but nothing is is writing but they will try to be compatible by 2030.

Why do people think at these end times there is good intentions by the leaders when they are going about for a one world government and to establish the new age movement in the world as standard religion and believe they must get rid of many people on the planet.

Do people really think they have good intentions concerning the vaccine when they already have it planned out to go against certain people in the future like Christians and Muslims and anybody that believes in a personal God for it would be contrary to their kingdom to come.

The New Age Christ's system is about control of all people and to cut down on crime.

Which they will go to a microchip which will have all information about them on the chip, and can track all people, and a tool used to cut down on crime.

They are using the coronavirus as a tool to give people a vaccination that will lead them to take a chip to identify who has been vaccinated or not because the vaccination card can be lost and they can be falsified.

The vaccine will not condemn a person but they are using it in a deceitful manner to get that chip in them.

If the chip is the mark of the beast the Christians that were vaccinated will not take the chip and then they will know it was a deceitful plan to get that chip in people because it is the New Age Christ's system of operation for the world.

They have been working on going towards the New Age Christ kingdom at least since 1922.

Of course the vaccine might be helpful to help someone against the coronavirus but it is a deceitful, set up plan that they did on purpose so they can go to a chip to identify people who has the vaccinated or not and the people who do not take the vaccination are the enemy.

Then they will know the will of nature to get rid of the people that oppose them.

But the coronavirus might be damaging to people and could actually cause the coronavirus to spread which is what they want for the more vaccinated the more people that might take the chip.

The devil is influencing the world to go in the direction of his kingdom to come as the New Age Christ for we wrestle not against flesh but of spiritual wickedness in high places.

The Christians that were vaccinated will reject the chip when the time comes for they will see it is the New Age Christ's system and be labeled with the unvaccinated for they will not keep up with their does of the vaccination for they will not take the chip.

It is the end time and the time for deceitfulness, lies, and manipulation, to cause the world to follow the kingdom to come.

And people cannot see that the vaccination is part of that plan and they really think they have good intentions for all people when it is already planned out to go against billions of people before the coronavirus came out so why would they care about them now.

They don't care about them for they are already the enemy even if they took the vaccination for they claim a personal God but they have to look good that they are trying to help all people for they would be rejected if they did not and they could go no further in their plan.

It is strange that Christians are divided on things when there is only one truth.

We are in the end times so the vaccine is part of their deceitful plan to establish the New Age Christ kingdom for that is all they will do concerning these times and all they care about.

 

[mailmandan]

Appeals court re-affirms stay on Biden workplace vaccine mandate, cites 'severe' risks

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/appeals-court-re-affirms-stay-biden-workplace-vaccine-mandate

 

[mailmandan]

Austrian brothel offering free entry, private sessions for those who get vaccinated on-site

https://www.foxnews.com/world/austr...sessions-for-those-who-get-vaccinated-on-site

 

[PennEd]

the SELF INFLICTED death march continues.

Michael Granata: 56-year-old California man dead 10 weeks after Moderna mRNA injection, warns others “don’t do it unless you want to suffer and die”

GILROY, CALIFORNIA — A 56-year-old engineer and business owner is dead, but refused to die in vain as he used his obituary to warn others about the evils surrounding the “vaccine” agenda.
Mr. Michael Granata received his first Moderna mRNA injection on August 17. He did not want to get the shot “for fear that might die.” But his doctor continually insisted that the mRNA injections were in Mr. Granata’s best interest. So he “gave into the pressure” and almost instantly regretted it.
Mr. Granata started feeling sick just three days later. General malaise morphed into multisystem inflammatory syndrome for adults (MIS-A) and multisystem organ failure. Mainstream media and the pharmaceutical industry say that MIS-A only results from COVID-19. They also push the fallacious idea that only Black and Latino kids get MIS-C, with the “C” being the children’s version of this syndrome.

Multisystem inflammation syndrome causes vital organs to swell to the point that they no longer function as normal. Multisystem organ failure is exactly what it sounds like. It starts with sepsis, when the immune system goes into overdrive responding to some sort of infection. The response is so dramatic that the immune system begins fighting itself.

The two conditions simultaneously are a living hell.
Death of Mike Granata
Mr. Granata said all of his muscles completely disintegrated within weeks of the injection. That means he was paralyzed and his heart wouldn’t beat on its own. It’s best to let Mr. Granata’s own words describe his last weeks of life.

“I was in ICU for several weeks and stabbed with needles up to 24 times a day for those several weeks, while also receiving 6 or 7 IVs at the same time (continuously). It was constant torture that I cannot describe. I was no longer treated as a human with feelings and a life.
I was nothing more than a covid vaccine human guinea pig and the doctors excited to participate in my fascinating progression unto death. I wished I would have never gotten vaccinated. If you are not vaccinated, don’t do it unless you are ready to suffer and die.”​

Mr. Granata passed away on November 1. He is survived by his wife and both of his parents. Read the full obituary here.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

and this is the divide - people are still getting covid and dying after getting the vax,

My saying your wrong bro. But I have not seen it everyone I know who was backed and got covid had minor symptoms. And remember. People get the flu shot and die if the flu. It’s nit something I have not seen before

and while i am not of the opinion that thousands have died of side effects, there is enough evidence out there that folks have had some bad side effects....

Again I have not seen it and I know way to many people who have received the shot that if it was a problem I would see a percentage.

Again we f people get sick and or die why did it happen? A bad batch (they allowed it to thaw out or did not handle it properly) something went wrong in the process of making it or is their a medical Underlying issue which needs to be understood so they can be told not to take the shot and they can find something out for them?

I know far to many people who are still suffering long term affects almost a year out from Infection with covid far to many people who ended up in ICU and will Never be the same and far to many people who have died or lost family members because of covid

Never in my life have I seen this reaction. When this first came out I figured it would be years before a vaccine could be made I prayed about it. We all did. And we are surprised it came out as fast as it did. There are risks because the process was rushed. But to many people it is worth the risk. I
Am One of those people as is
My wife. I have to watch my daughter in law go this holiday season without her mom who I hear say to many times she wishes the vaccine was available to her. And she is not the only one who says this,, this will be a rough holiday for many

The politicization of this is deep. If trump was in office and he was doing what Biden is doing the right would be praising him and the left would be coming up with and posting what pennedand others are posting.

We have a young white boy on trial because a bunch of BLM activists attacked him And he killed a few in self defense. Granted he should have not been there or been carrying. But it is bull he is charged while the BLM people got away with destruction and murder

To me this vaccine debate is no different than that Biden is pushing it so the right attacks and defray it and finds anything they can to fight it

It’s sad

It’s sadder to Me that it is people of God leading the war

 

[eternally-gratefull]

One post repeated a thousand times is not 1,000 posts. As far as the transfer of information goes.

Notice there where some
Posts yesterday that were the opposite of posts like his. Even people who were like him who either died or got seriously ill or had family members who changed their Minds

Again it just proves that you can find things to agree with you if you look

He will only post negative things. Let him. He will Answer one day.

His hatred and anger is no different than the anti trim haters of the previous 4 years

Like Israel and the church following the same path of destruction the left and the right follow

We are to divided I see little hope
Of restoration. Only God can help and if we are in the last days as I think. God will take a hands off approach and show the world how it is when God is not involved. Pure tribulation

 

[seed_time_harvest]

They will look anyplace for anything, as long as it supports them

I wonder why do they continue posting fear based theories, from Any source?

I guess It's just their way of promoting their position against people before people have a Chance to use common sense

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Winter Is upon us and the flu season,please protect yourself and your loved ones,love thy neighbor.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

I dont believe getting the vaccination is a lack of faith. We were taught to trust our doctors and what they say. I just dont believe in it because of so much misinformation I've seen about the vaccination, so it makes people like me a bit skeptical.

Even nurses who are In a factual science based field are not agreeing with science and the phizer vaccination has been FDA approved.More confusion and division.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I wonder why do they continue posting fear based theories, from Any source?

I guess It's just their way of promoting their position against people before people have a Chance to use common sense

It’s no different then when the anti trump Haters did it

Sadly I think it is a major issue with social Media we can find anything we want to support our view so we use that to push the people who we are against. And it turns into a war of words and ideas. And pride takes over

I think social Media is More of a danger to society and our freedoms than all the topics of division are.

 

[gb9]

I wonder why do they continue posting fear based theories, from Any source?

I guess It's just their way of promoting their position against people before people have a Chance to use common sense

common sense.

in america, there have been 719 million covid tests performed,

48 million cases.

so, a 93% negativity rate.

add that to a 98% survival rate,

common sense says not worth a unproven shot.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

common sense.

in america, there have been 719 million covid tests performed,

48 million cases.

so, a 93% negativity rate.

add that to a 98% survival rate,

common sense says not worth a unproven shot.

Again this data does not show grouping. It just shows national rate

For most people I agree. For other groups this data is misleading

 

[seed_time_harvest]

You know I've stayed away from these threads BC it makes me get into the flesh!

Brethren be aware it is not flesh and blood we fight against!

I know several here are hard headed ,me included, but this is what Satan wants. It is not the virus nor the vaccine but to see brother against brother.

Taking away and tearing down from God gives him great pleasure! Let's not do this for him but rather let us GLORIFY God whether we've been vaccinated or not !

It's amazing how "Christians" are trying battle Satan in the flesh.

Yep

Hebrews 4:12
King James Version

12For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

 

[John146]

Even nurses who are In a factual science based field are not agreeing with science and the phizer vaccination has been FDA approved.More confusion and division.

The fda gives truth to the highest bidder.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

The fda gives truth to the highest bidder.

Should we not trust the FDA on all food and drugs that It has approved?

 

[John146]

Should we not trust the FDA on all food and drugs that It has approved?

You would be amazed at what’s in our food that has been approved, the cattle and beef industry for one. And guess who helps fund the fda....the cattle industry. Follow the money, for the love of money is the root of all evil.

 

[John146]

Should we not trust the FDA on all food and drugs that It has approved?

FDA approval never guarantees health nor drug safety.