Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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If the Lord tells you to do something and you don't do it, is it a sin? Yes.

Did the Lord tell us to watch? Yes.

So then, is it a sin if Christians are not watching? Yes.
 

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"How far off do you think the mark of the beast is?"

I was asked this question. The following was my answer:

The Lord said that "this generation shall not pass away until all these things are fulfilled", the context of that statement was "the fig tree and all the trees putting forth their leaves so that you know summer is near". That is a reference to Israel and a number of other countries that were formed after WWI and WWII. There are at least ten different biblical reasons to conclude that a generation is 80 years. Also, based on the context of what he was saying "all these things being fulfilled" referred to all the various signs and tribulation prior to His return to Israel. So then it is the general consensus that all these things will be fulfilled by May 2028 and the 70th week from Daniel is 7 years long and based on that one expects the 70th week to begin in 2021.

Psalm 18 is a marvelous psalm that clearly describes the pre tribulation rapture. Studies have done a marvelous job of showing that the Psalms are prophetic with Psalm 1 through Psalm 128 giving us the years 1901 through 2028. So then in 1918 we see two major events take place, a worldwide pandemic and then the end of WWI. Because of WWI we had the great depression, WWII, and the holocaust. Those events give you a very good preview of what the tribulation will be like, what the antichrist will be like, what the concentration camps will be like and even what the mark of the beast will be like. Originally the mark began as "the star of David" being put onto all Jews, then they were herded into ghettos (just like mandating the vaccine and you can't work or go to the various businesses without it). Ultimately they were rounded up from the ghettos and sent to the camps and each person was given a number tatooed to their arm marking them out. That would be the ultimate preview of the mark of the beast. But without a doubt sticking gold stars on the Jews was the first step towards the gas chambers.

I find it interesting that it was 1948 years from the first Adam to Abraham, and it was 1948 years from the last Adam to Israel being reformed.

As for "being foggy about the end times" the Lord told us it would be as the days of Noah. On Chesvan 17 the rains came down and the ark went up. That was a very important "day of Noah" directly referenced in the bible. In 2020 Chesvan 17 was November 3rd, the day of the stolen election. On the 9th of AV Noah released the raven to fly to and fro over the face of the Earth and on the 9th of AV in 2021 Biden evacuated Afghanistan leaving one of the best equipped militaries behind for the Taliban.

The Lord also said it would be as the days of Lot and Sodom and Gomorrah. The account of the angels visiting Lot to see if Sodom's sins were truly as bad as the cries going up to God said reminded me of this Kyle Rittenhouse trial where a crazed mob is outside the house wanting to rape this kid.

In Genesis 6 God tells Noah (the name spelled backwards is grace) that His Spirit will not strive with man forever. He gives man 120 years of grace as Noah prepares the ark before the flood comes. According to the Bible there have been 6,000 years since Adam or 120 jubilees (each jubilee is 50 years). Another way to look at this is 1,000 years is as one day to God. After six days comes the sabbath rest -- millennial kingdom. What I find interesting is that according to Jewish tradition Eve and Adam sinned on Chesvan 17, when they sinned they realized they were naked because they were no longer clothed with God's Spirit, the Spirit departed. Paul tells us that "He who restrains" referring to the Holy Spirit striving with sinful man, that when He is taken away (the Holy Spirit covering the Earth) that the man of lawlessness will be revealed (antichrist), which is the start of the tribulation. According to the blessings of Abraham the people of faith, the sons of Abraham, are a blessing to the Earth. They are a covering to the Earth, being one with the Holy Spirit they are restraining evil and striving with the lawless. They will be removed at the rapture. Chesvan 17 in 2021 is November 21/22.

In addition we have a number of fascinating signs in the heavens that have taken place, I don't have room to go into all them here, but November 19th we will have a sign that hasn't taken place for a thousand years and that is the longest blood moon of this past thousand years. Because of the length virtually the whole Earth will see this (except for the Middle East). But the one and only sign the Lord gives to this adulterous age is the sign of Jonah, back in June there was a man swallowed by a whale. Of course there were also the two cows with the number 7 on their foreheads in September of 2014 indicating 7 years of plenty and 7 years of famine with the seven years of famine beginning September 25, 2021 (Pharaoh's dream).

I could go on, suffice it to say that the Bride groom cometh. This vaccine mandate is a midnight cry to "come out of her my people and do not partake of her plagues".
 

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Count it all Joy -- An example

Mike Lindell said that the stolen election was perfect. By that He meant it was God's perfect plan. Why? He supported Trump, why would he think that stealing the election would be "God's perfect plan", why would he rejoice? He said if Trump had won despite the election fraud no one would have cared about the election fraud, but because he lost people cared and demanded an investigation. Trump losing shined a spotlight on the fraud.

Also if it had been close, say a charismatic Obama versus an energetic Trump, competing campaign rallies, then it would be totally believable whoever won. But the fact that Biden has dementia, his rallies had about 8 cars in the lot that were from the local rental agency, rented by his campaign, and the fact that he hid in the basement during the campaign made it unbelievable. Trump went to five rallies in a single day, these rallies would be packed with tens of thousands of people all dressed in gear supporting him. The contrast could not have been more stark, that is what Lindell said when he said it was "perfect".

Within days grass roots protestors had formed the "Stop the Steal" rallies. They were not created by Trump's campaign. Thousands of witnesses came forward and signed affidavits. Experts from around the world joined in the effort doing statistical analysis, tracking down hundreds of thousands of mail in ballots, checking voters rolls, and filing legal challenges. No one paid these volunteers. That was "perfect", the Spirit of the Lord moving in the conscience of people around the world to stop this house from being broken into. Soon over 50% of the country believed the election was stolen and 70% supported election audits. When Biden and the mainstream media persisted in calling these people as "insurrectionists" the F Joe Biden chants began. Claiming they were saying "Let's Go Brandon" made things even worse as the brazen lies, lack of shame, and total disrespect shown to the US voters was on display.

Why is the US important? Throughout human history human government has been tyrannical. Pharaohs, Kings, Emperors, Dictators, and Generals have all run the various countries. Early experiments with Democracy were only for landholders, the elites, not for slaves, working folks, common man. In world history the US is unique. Were they sinful? Yes. Were they composed of greedy and selfish people? Yes. But it was a government by the people, for the people and of the people. It has never happened before and if it fails it might never happen again. Israel's future, Taiwan's future, they both hang in the balance. If the US falls they fall, and if they fall then it will only be a matter of time till Australia and New Zealand fall. Every other country (Japan, S. Korea, S. Africa, etc) will become puppets overnight.

But this is like the trial where Jesus was convicted and sentenced. It was so obviously corrupt that no one could miss it. I believe that JFK's assassination was an inside job carried out by elements of our national security apparatus. That is based on years of study of the evidence. You may not believe that, fair enough. I also believe that the reason Nixon had to resign was because he couldn't let his henchmen fall on their swords because they had been involved in the assassination. I also feel that 9/11 was an inside job. The evidence is quite compelling and overwhelming that the official story is completely false. It becomes a little murkier when you want to know exactly who carried out this operation, but it is like looking through a dirty window. We can see enough though not as clearly as we would like. But maybe that is not enough for you, fine. Surely the mortgage meltdown in 2008 should have been enough. You could see clearly then that the people robbing widows houses and for a pretense making long prayers were protected and supported by Obama and Bush. The corruption in the government at that point was so astounding everyone should have been clear. That is why 80 million voted for Trump, they were clear.

So this election fraud it was perfect, we have 80 million who are already convinced, but as the evidence comes out you will see more and more people wake up and see what is going on. Recent polls show Biden only has 38% who still support him and you should note the pollster who did this has shown a 14% bias for Biden in the past elections. It is plausible that Biden's support is now less than 30%. Maybe seeing CGI of Biden talking to reporters will wake them up, that is right, not a dream. Maybe seeing a scripted press conference with everyone having prerehearsed lines, maybe that wakes you up. Maybe seeing the censorship of the news concerning Hunter Biden will do it, apparently that woke up 6% of those who had voted for Biden. Lindell has released two movies "Absolute Proof" and "Absolute Interference". Approximately 200 million people watched at least one of these movies.

But even if that doesn't wake you up perhaps the loyalty pledge they want the military to make, the most persuasive evidence of a cult, that will do it. Perhaps seeing the hypocrisy of those calling for Trump's impeachment after the inauguration, the same people who supported BLM riots and looting, perhaps that will wake you up. Or the hypocrisy of those crying about "kids in cages" with Trump yet have gone silent with three times as many "kids in cages" with Biden. Maybe the hypocrisy in pushing for gun control laws by Biden while covering up and not enforcing felony violations of gun control laws by Hunter Biden will wake you up. Maybe the executive actions about eliminating genders, or legalizing abortions right up to birth, or having American's pay for abortions for foreigners, or maybe watching at they spend 90% of a $1.9 trillion dollar bill paying back their political friends.

The cross of Christ, it reveals the Son of God with the power of resurrection, it also reveals Satan, the liar and thief who comes to kill, steal and destroy. The cross of Christ is perfect, therefore we need to rejoice. Rejoice that the flesh, and Satan and the world has been nailed to the cross and rejoice that Jesus has the power of resurrection.
 

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Acts 8:1-25 -- What can stand in our way of the Gospel?

8 And Saul approved of their killing him.

Just like those that approved of the crucifixion of Jesus.

On that day a great persecution broke out against the church in Jerusalem, and all except the apostles were scattered throughout Judea and Samaria.

Psalm 80:1 Hear us, Shepherd of Israel, you who lead Joseph like a flock. You who sit enthroned between the cherubim, shine forth 2 before Ephraim, Benjamin and Manasseh. Awaken your might; come and save us. 3 Restore us, O God; make your face shine on us, that we may be saved.

This persecution has been likened to the wind blowing on a dandelion and sending the seeds in all directions. We are seeing the same scattering today. People are being scattered from the social platforms throughout the internet. They are leaving mainstream media, and they are leaving tech giants services like Google and Amazon.com However, once the tribulation begins you will see them killing the saints and then a great persecution will break out.

2 Godly men buried Stephen and mourned deeply for him. 3 But Saul began to destroy the church. Going from house to house, he dragged off both men and women and put them in prison.

Psalm 80:4 How long, Lord God Almighty, will your anger smolder against the prayers of your people? 5 You have fed them with the bread of tears; you have made them drink tears by the bowlful. 6 You have made us an object of derision to our neighbors, and our enemies mock us.

This is our history. I heard one atheist mocking Christians as those that believe the reason we don’t have unicorns is because they were late to Noah’s ark. The plan right now is to go after anyone who was in the “MAGA movement”. Since there were 75 million or more who voted for Trump that is not possible, so instead they are targeting high profile people like Mike Lindell and news services like Epoch Times.

4 Those who had been scattered preached the word wherever they went. 5 Philip went down to a city in Samaria and proclaimed the Messiah there. 6 When the crowds heard Philip and saw the signs he performed, they all paid close attention to what he said. 7 For with shrieks, impure spirits came out of many, and many who were paralyzed or lame were healed. 8 So there was great joy in that city.

Stephen is killed and Phillip stands up. There is a verse in a song that says “all he could do the foe was just release the flow”.

Psalm 80:7 Restore us, God Almighty; make your face shine on us, that we may be saved. 8 You transplanted a vine from Egypt; you drove out the nations and planted it. 9 You cleared the ground for it, and it took root and filled the land. 10 The mountains were covered with its shade, the mighty cedars with its branches. 11 Its branches reached as far as the Sea, its shoots as far as the River.

Now is not the time to be timid. They are calling for the resignation of some politicians, they are recalling others, and they are passing legislation to deal with issues at the State level that the Federal government won’t deal with. We can hear their shrieks as we see hedge funds lose billions of dollars, and companies that agreed to the “cancel culture” go bankrupt. People are exiting the tech giants and as a result the daily usage of platforms like Twitter is plummeting.

9 Now for some time a man named Simon had practiced sorcery in the city and amazed all the people of Samaria. He boasted that he was someone great, 10 and all the people, both high and low, gave him their attention and exclaimed, “This man is rightly called the Great Power of God.”


One of the really humiliating aspects of the last 2,000 years is the proliferation of charlatans claiming “great power of God”. This is a second way in which the enemy lays the groundwork to mock the church and hold us in derision. Why have so many gone along with this claim that questioning Fauci is to question science? These sorcerers have amazed people and bullied them into submission.

Psalm 80:12 Why have you broken down its walls so that all who pass by pick its grapes? 13 Boars from the forest ravage it, and insects from the fields feed on it.

11 They followed him because he had amazed them for a long time with his sorcery. 12 But when they believed Philip as he proclaimed the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13 Simon himself believed and was baptized. And he followed Philip everywhere, astonished by the great signs and miracles he saw.

People who are accomplished illusionists are very good at spotting fakes. This is why the FBI hires hackers to catch hackers and counterfeiters to catch counterfeiters. For this many to be astonished and to believe is a powerful testimony. The pandemic is the work of sorcerers.

Psalm 80:14 Return to us, God Almighty! Look down from heaven and see! Watch over this vine, 15 the root your right hand has planted, the son you have raised up for yourself.

14 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to Samaria.15 When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

This word “Spirit” can also be translated as breath or wind. When we breathe in the word of God and it becomes our breath, then we receive the Holy Spirit. The teaching and fellowship of the apostles is the breath of God, receive that word by faith and you will be filled with the Holy Spirit.

Psalm 80:16 Your vine is cut down, it is burned with fire; at your rebuke your people perish. 17 Let your hand rest on the man at your right hand, the son of man you have raised up for yourself. 18 Then we will not turn away from you; revive us, and we will call on your name. 19 Restore us, Lord God Almighty; make your face shine on us, that we may be saved.

18 When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19 and said, “Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.” 20 Peter answered: “May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money! 21 You have no part or share in this ministry, because your heart is not right before God. 22 Repent of this wickedness and pray to the Lord in the hope that he may forgive you for having such a thought in your heart. 23 For I see that you are full of bitterness and captive to sin.”

Such a common thought in the world, “how can I make money from this?” The rule in the New Testament is “freely you have received, freely give”. Money is an idol, the world worships this idol. In the church we only worship Jesus who saved us with the free gift of grace. Get your heart right with the Lord and your question will be how can I express Jesus.

24 Then Simon answered, “Pray to the Lord for me so that nothing you have said may happen to me.”


Once we have received Jesus by faith He begins to work in us. We need our mind renewed with the mind of Christ. This is not an instantaneous process, but rather a process that takes time. The more we set our mind on Christ the more our mind is renewed. Prayer, fellowship, reading the word, singing hymns of praise, listening to the apostles fellowship, these are all ways in which we can set our mind on Christ.

25 After they had further proclaimed the word of the Lord and testified about Jesus, Peter and John returned to Jerusalem, preaching the gospel in many Samaritan villages.


The chapter began with a great persecution against the church, and yet almost immediately this is turned to the Lord leading a train of vanquished foes as the gospel is spread far and wide.
 

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Comparing the Mark of the Beast with what Germany did to the Jews

The best analogy to the mark of the beast is the number put on the arms of the inmates at the concentration camps in Germany.

You don't get there in one step.

1. First, you give every Jew and every business owned by a Jew a Star of David.

2. You now have to show your papers travelling around the city and if you are a Jew you had better be wearing that Star of David or else you go to jail. This is like the requirement of showing a vaccine passport.

3. By doing the first two steps the government can create a list of all those who have not been vaccinated. This is why many are seeing that RFID readers can read a code number to those who were vaccinated. You are being marked. This is like the opposite of what they did in Germany, they are marking all those who will be their obedient servants, anyone refusing the vaccine will be rounded up.

4. The Jews were then rounded up and sent to the Ghettos. This is like the vaccine mandate where you can no longer work at your job unless you have been vaccinated. Again, it is the mirror image of what they did in Germany.

5. The next step is to seal off the Ghetto in the middle of the night and round up everyone for the concentration camps. Since all the Jews live in the Ghetto few non Jews really see or know what just happened. Obviously you can't do this until the camps are ready and that includes the guillotines. This is where we are right now, we are this close to the tribulation.

6. Once they get to the concentration camp they put the identifying number on you for the camp, this is like the Mark of the Beast. With the mark of the beast they bring those who refuse to get the mark and give them a choice, receive the mark or have your head chopped off.

These things have to be done delicately, you don't want to spook people. If they knew the plan from the beginning 80% would revolt, but once you have 70% vaccinated it is not hard to think that everyone should, after all you did. They know that some will learn of the concentration camps, but just censor the news, call these people insurrectionists and spreaders of lies, and arrest them as well.
 

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Laodicea

Shavuot takes place after 7 complete sabbaths. I have a hunch that these “seven complete sabbaths” refer to the believers going through the seven golden lampstands. I would compare this to graduation, you don’t graduate until you complete these seven exams. The rapture is our graduation. So then, if the rapture is imminent we must be in Laodicea or completing laodicea.

14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

This is what happens when the Lord tells you to leave and you don’t say Amen. This is what happens when you are willing to watch the faithful and true witness leave but you stay behind. This is what happens when you don’t have faith in the one who is the beginning of the creation of God. You are afraid to start from scratch, better just stay where you are even though it is dead. The vaccine mandate is God saying to leave.

15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.


This is the boastful, arrogant, and condescending church. In Pergamos others blasphemed them saying they were poor yet they were rich. When you return to your first love this is what you discover, those who the synagogue of Satan is blaspheming as poor it turns out are rich in faith. In Thyatira, those saints who made it through still holding to their first love, they were tried in the fire. In Sardis, those who walked in white with the Lord even though they got excommunicated for it, that is how you pay the price for white raiment. But these saints in Laodicea never did say Amen to the Lord, they made excuses for not being a faithful and true witness, choosing to be more pragmatic and diplomatic. And when it came to trusting in the Lord to make that leap they were faithless, not believing that He was the beginning of the creation of God.

Many Christians are rebuking those of us who are examining the scriptures concerning the rapture saying that we are contradicting the established Bible teachers of the past. In other words they are rich, they have all knowledge, all wisdom, and in reality they are luke warm Christians. The ones who are hot for the Lord are saying amen, they trust that the Bible is the faithful and true witness and they are getting to know the one who is the beginning of the creation of God. We are seeing an entirely new doctrine, a new understanding of the prophecies. And we are obeying the Lord's command to watch for His return.

19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.


The Lord loves them, but they must be zealous and repent. The Christians who are rebuking us for examining the rapture are the ones that the Lord is rebuking for being luke warm.

20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.


They have shut the door on the Lord and are ignoring Him even though He is outside knocking for them to open up to Him. We all have access to the internet, we can all open up to this word.

21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.


How do you overcome? By the blood and by the word of your testimony. By saying Amen to the Lord, by being faithful and true to the Lord, and by trusting Him even if you have to lose everything. You have to overcome all the traditions of men, you have to be willing to “go where no Bible teacher has gone before”. You have to walk by faith, but there are those out there looking at the signs in the heavens despite the attack that this is “astrology” (it isn’t) and that it is prohibited by God (it isn’t, He is the one who gave the stars for signs). There are others who are taking apart the calendar and putting it back together again so we can all understand it. There are those looking at the types and shadows of the rapture and at the feasts. Finally, there are those looking at the prophecies like that of Daniel. The rapture is us sitting down with the Lord in His throne, it is us overcoming all the naysayers, all the attacks, all the doubts and unbelief.

22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
 

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The Lord told us that the servants which were doing what they were supposed to when the Lord returns would be blessed.

There were two in the field, there were two grinding at the mill. This is what we are supposed to be doing.

In another place the Lord says that the servant that is giving the food at the proper time would be blessed.

I believe this is the proper time to be examining the rapture, it is the proper time to be going through the Bible (like Daniel said -- running to and fro through the scriptures) and to be grinding up these grains.

I am thankful for what I have learned about the heavenly calendar that God has. I am thankful for everything I have learned concerning Trumpets, Hanukkah, second Passover, and Shavuot.

I am thankful for what I have learned concerning Daniel and his prophecies.

Some people used to share that "when the last person gets saved then the Lord will come". Their point was that we need to be doing what we are supposed to be doing, there is something that needs to be accomplished in this age and then the Lord will come. I saw that same message in Shavuot where it doesn't give a specific date but rather says "after seven complete Sabbaths, then it is the next day". We need to completely learn the lessons of the seven golden lampstands in Revelation. The last lampstand, Laodicea, has a lesson about not being proud thinking you know everything but willing to open the door to the Lord who is outside of this arrogant "know it all" situation. I think we see this illustrated for us in the debate over the rapture with some willing to leave their comfort zone and go out to the Lord to explore and others who are content that they already know all there is to know and there is nothing else to know.
 

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Some wonder about the blood moons (lunar eclipse). First, they happen every year during a full moon so there is nothing particularly special about a lunar eclipse. What is rare, what is special, what is considered a sign is if you get a tetrad - 4 of them close together over 2-3 years that all appear on Jewish feast days (Passover and Sukkot are full moons). This has happened 9 times since the Lord's crucifixion and prior to today. They coincide with

1. Lord's crucifixion
2. Destruction of Jerusalem in in AD 70
3. Coliseum Martyrs and Worldwide plague
4. Charlemagne halts Islamic invasion of Europe
5. Dividing of the Roman empire and persecution of the Jews
6. Persecution of Jews by Russians and Persecution of Christians by communists.
7. Expulsion of Jews from Spain which killed many and could be considered genocidal.
8. Reestablishment of the State of Israel in 1948
9. 6 day war returning Jerusalem to Jews

and now we have signs like no other, far more than simply a tetrad. You need to look at the link and see the diagram to get an idea.

https://www.christiantruthcenter.co...iding-with-jewish-feasts-passover-and-sukkot/
 

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This is from God's Roadmap to the End, however Jeffrey McGaha has also come to the same conclusion. Jeffrey was working off of predictive programming, which is similar to what this video is based on.

The point they are making is "November" means 9. So they have been picking up on a very clear message from the world about something cataclysmic happening 9/23 to 9/24 which they had originally interpreted as September 23-24 it could in fact be November 23-24.

The second point is the the lunar eclipse followed by the solar eclipse is very important. This happens twice a year and there are prophecies that the Moon and sun are darkened at the time of the great day of the Lord. So then if you were to conclude that the tribulation begins in 2021 it would have to be around the time of these two events, Nov 18th we have the Lunar eclipse, Dec 4th we have the solar eclipse.
 

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Stunning


Interesting that this woke up all the people in Australia.
 

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This brother has something important to share, everyone needs to listen to him.

 

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How do you receive the Spirit?

3 You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2 I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard? 3 Are you so foolish? After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh? 4 Have you experienced so much in vain—if it really was in vain? 5 So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard? 6 So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”

7 Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham. 8 Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.” 9 So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

Compare Paul's account of this story with James' account

21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.

You have to look at this story from two different sides, one from Abraham and one from Isaac. Paul is telling us that we are sons of Abraham and that the way we receive the Spirit is by faith. James is saying that without works Abraham's faith is dead. They are both talking about the same thing, how did the faith that Abraham had in the God of resurrection get transmitted from Abraham to Isaac? If Abraham had not transmitted that faith to Isaac then the faith would have died with Abraham.

Now what Paul is saying is he is focusing on how we began by the Spirit. His focus is not on Abraham who is over 100 years old, his focus is on Isaac beginning his walk by faith.

Think about the story, Isaac asks his father, here is the wood but where is the lamb? Abraham tells Isaac that God would provide the lamb. Actually the Hebrew says "God will appear as the lamb" (that is what I am told). That's it, Abraham doesn't tell him anything more till they get to the top of the mountain and he begins to tie up Isaac. So put yourself in the mindset of this 12 or 13 year old boy.

Wait, I know I forgot to take the garbage out last week, I'm sorry. No avail. OK, OK, I know I got a B on that math test, didn't study enough, I was playing too much games, I'm sorry, I promise not to do it again. No avail. Now he is laid out on the altar, Abraham pulls out the knife and is about to kill him when all of a sudden he prays "God, you promised to appear as the lamb!" Boom, the angel appears, stops Abraham, and Isaac is saved. That is how Isaac began a life of faith, he wasn't justified by the works of the law but by faith in the promise of God.

Now consider this from James point of view. If Abraham cannot transmit the faith to his son then his faith is dead. This is how denominations dry up and die. This is what a cult truly is, they stop transmitting the faith in the Savior to the next generation.

Genesis 22:1 Some time later God tested Abraham. He said to him, “Abraham!”

“Here I am,” he replied.

2 Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, whom you love—Isaac—and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.”

3 Early the next morning Abraham got up and loaded his donkey. He took with him two of his servants and his son Isaac. When he had cut enough wood for the burnt offering, he set out for the place God had told him about. 4 On the third day Abraham looked up and saw the place in the distance. 5 He said to his servants, “Stay here with the donkey while I and the boy go over there. We will worship and then we will come back to you.”

6 Abraham took the wood for the burnt offering and placed it on his son Isaac, and he himself carried the fire and the knife. As the two of them went on together, 7 Isaac spoke up and said to his father Abraham, “Father?”

“Yes, my son?” Abraham replied.

“The fire and wood are here,” Isaac said, “but where is the lamb for the burnt offering?”

8 Abraham answered, “God himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son.” And the two of them went on together.

9 When they reached the place God had told him about, Abraham built an altar there and arranged the wood on it. He bound his son Isaac and laid him on the altar, on top of the wood. 10 Then he reached out his hand and took the knife to slay his son. 11 But the angel of the Lord called out to him from heaven, “Abraham! Abraham!”

“Here I am,” he replied.

12 “Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”

13 Abraham looked up and there in a thicket he saw a ram[a] caught by its horns. He went over and took the ram and sacrificed it as a burnt offering instead of his son. 14 So Abraham called that place The Lord Will Provide. And to this day it is said, “On the mountain of the Lord it will be provided.”
 
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Their Day of Disaster is Near

Deuteronomy 30:1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither Jehovah thy God hath driven thee, 2 and shalt return unto Jehovah thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thy heart, and with all thy soul; 3 that then Jehovah thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the peoples, whither Jehovah thy God hath scattered thee.

Verse 3 of Deuteronomy 30 is the 5,708th verse of the Bible. 5708 on the Jewish calendar was 1948, the year the Jews returned and God gathered them again.

Deuteronomy 32:35 It is mine to avenge; I will repay. In due time their foot will slip;
their day of disaster is near and their doom rushes upon them.”


By the same measure this would be the verse for 2020, the year of the Pandemic. A bioweapon created in the lab, released intentionally, and then those in charge like Fauci, NIH, WHO intentionally lied to make it worse.

Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.

By the same measure this would be the verse for 1945, the year the atomic bomb was dropped.
 

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Watch, this is what you will see prior to the Lord's return

Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not on what day your Lord cometh.

The context that the Lord tells us to watch here is very informative.

1. You have prophecies like the Fig tree prophecy (v32) that will tell you the time frame (generation) and the season. If you pay attention to them you will know that He is nigh, even at the doors.

2. You have preachers of righteousness, like Noah (v37-39), that you need to be listening to and paying attention to. Listening to them is the same thing as “watching”.

3. At this time there will be a very strong contrast (v 40-41), two will be in the field, preaching the word, but one will be taken and one left. You need to be able to discern between these two. Two will be grinding at the mill, grinding up the word into messages, publishing books, and again one will be taken one left. Watching means to discern between these two.

43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken through. 44 Therefore be ye also ready; for in an hour that ye think not the Son of man cometh.

How often does the master of the house know at what hour the thief is coming? That just doesn’t happen. That is why we have watchmen, they are looking for signs that a thief is trying to break in. Dogs will begin to bark the minute they hear some sound, we set up lights to go off if someone walks in front of them, we have burglar alarms set up to go off the minute someone breaks the window or door. These ones who ignore the prophets, they aren’t interested in the word of righteousness, only to know the hour, the Lord isn’t going to tell them that. These who ignore the preaching of righteousness from Noah, they also just want to know that hour when it is going to happen, they aren’t interested in the Lord or following Him, the Lord isn’t going to give them that. These workers of lawlessness who are preaching the word and publishing books outside of the Lord’s direction, the Lord isn’t going to give them that hour.

Think of how stupid this is. If I have a fig tree and I want fruit from it I will be checking it everyday. Yes, I will see the leaves come out and then the fruit budding, and yes I will realize that this day is approaching, but no farmer is going to look at the tree in May and say OK, fruit will be ready to pick September 6th at 5pm. That is idiotic. Likewise with Noah. Suppose the Lord told him of the flood and he was like “just tell me what day it is going to be”? How stupid, you have to build the ark first. It is pointless knowing the day and the hour if the ark isn't built.
 

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Just read an interesting history on the Gestapo. It reminds me very much of what I am seeing today with the indictment of Steve Bannon and all of our political prisoners from the Jan 6th event. It reminded me of the DOJ being weaponized to go after Project Veritas as a way to protect the NY Times in their lawsuit who are now so clearly nothing but the propaganda wing of the deep state. It reminded me of the DOJ classifying parents who speak up at school board meetings as "domestic terrorists" and of this school board member in Loudon county of collecting files on the various parents to figure out how to get leverage on them. It reminded me of the vaccine mandate forcing many police to either comply or resign as we see police leaving the Blue cities to be replaced by the thought police.
 

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There is a clear pattern in world history

It is interesting to apply fibonacci sequence to US history.

If you do and start with
Declaration of independence

Then the following events line up with key fibonacci dates:

7/9/78 — continental Congress approves articles of confederation

1783 — treaty of Paris

1/1791 Bill of rights is ratified

1803 — Louisiana Purchase

1823 — Monroe Doctrine

1861 — The Civil War

1914 — WWI

2001 — 9/11