What did Jesus say about HIMSELF?

[DavidTree]

Jesus said over and over that he was FROM God, even saying to the disciples that he HAD a God.
The God who gave him authority to receive his life BACK!

So, Thomas was praising both his Lord, and the One who resurrected him- Jehovah!

YEHOVAH Resurrected HIMSELF= Gospel of John

“Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again.
No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself.
I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.
This command I have received from My Father.”

 

[InspiredByGod]

The Savior is the Lord is JESUS - there is No other Savior besides JESUS the LORD = YEHOVAH

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Rev 7:10- And they cried out in a loud voice: "Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne, >>> AND <<< to the Lamb."

For after all, the One who SENT the savior of us all is a Savior Himself!

 

[InspiredByGod]

YEHOVAH Resurrected HIMSELF= Gospel of John

“Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again.
No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself.
I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.
This command I have received from My Father.”

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Seriously, David?
Jesus resurrected himself while DEAD, or was ALIVE?

 

[Magenta]

Christ is God - Christian Chat Rooms & Forums

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[InspiredByGod]

Christ is God - Christian Chat Rooms & Forums

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You want me to COME????

 

[DavidTree]

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Seriously, David?
Jesus resurrected himself while DEAD, or was ALIVE?

SERIOUSLY - you don't know - you are in unbelief and under the deception of false teachings from false prophets.

You do not even believe your own Thread - What did Jesus say about HIMSELF?

“Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again.
No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself.
I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.
This command I have received from My Father.”

 

[InspiredByGod]

SERIOUSLY - you don't know - you are in unbelief and under the deception of false teachings from false prophets.

You do not even believe your own Thread - What did Jesus say about HIMSELF?

“Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again.
No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself.
I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.
This command I have received from My Father.”

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That's what I have gotten for 50 years now.
Who id he get that COMMAND from- HIMSELF?

 

[Laura798]

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Name them!
Jesus understood what Thomas MEANT!

IBG, I am still struggling to understand where you are coming from. There is only one God and how it is He manifests Himself in three is not something that can be fully understood with our finite human minds as we have no reference point in this earthly realm for it.

Now a cherubim , is infinitely less complex than God, and yet I find my mind trying to work out how it can fly in all four directions without turning--never mind trying to visualize these strange creatures with eyes all around and multiple sets of wings! How much more difficult is it to wrap our mind around our three in one God!

It seems to me, that you are trying to understand God in the way we understand separate individuals--also you seem to fixate on particular verses and the name of God (which there are several) while ignoring others--All three are Persons. And all three are ONE. There is nothing to compare God to--we must accept the things we cannot see by faith--and we CAN know the three are ONE as they are all called GOD. I think you are like the monkey , trapped by hunters by putting candy in a gourd--all he needs to do is let go of the candy and he will be free, but he is trapped simply because he refuses to unclinch his fist, thereby enabling him to pull his hand out and run for freedom.

 

[InspiredByGod]

IBG, I am still struggling to understand where you are coming from. There is only one God and how it is He manifests Himself in three is not something that can be fully understood with our finite human minds as we have...

...no reason in His words to belief it, neither Christ, the prophets or the Apostles taught it- nor the entire Bible!
You adopted it ONLY from Religion!

 

[InspiredByGod]

Remember, Laura, Jesus said it meant Everlasting Life to KNOW Him; and mysteries are for the UNKNOWN!

 

[InspiredByGod]

How difficult is it to understand that there is One ALMIGHTY God- not 3 'Co-Almighties', who had his son formed/created/born/made, and who had all things made thorough him!

Versus the '3-in-one' God who was born a man and DIED for us ...or pretended to die!

 

[DavidTree]

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That's what I have gotten for 50 years now.
Who id he get that COMMAND from- HIMSELF?

YES, Dear Friend - the Command came from His FATHER - the Same PLACE where YEHOVAH the SON, IS WAS and IS to COME.

“And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”

Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel,
And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:
‘I am the First and I am the Last;
Besides Me there is no God.

Yehovah is JESUS - always was from Eternity

Elohim Father Elohim Son Elohim Holy Spirit = I and My Father are ONE

JESUS (Yehovah) KING of kings and LORD of lords

 

[tourist]

Jesus has been given the power~

John 17:2- since thou hast given him power over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom thou hast given him ...

Is Jesus part of the Godhead - Father, Son (Jesus), Holy Spirit, three separate entities comprising one God?

 

[InspiredByGod]

Is Jesus part of the Godhead - Father, Son (Jesus), Holy Spirit, three separate entities comprising one God?

Not according to him!

 

[DavidTree]

How difficult is it to understand that there is One ALMIGHTY God- not 3 'Co-Almighties', who had his son formed/created/born/made, and who had all things made thorough him!

Versus the '3-in-one' God who was born a man and DIED for us ...or pretended to die!

How can an Eternal Being like the Father/Son/Holy Spirit die???

The only death that CHRIST experienced was His physical death on the Cross - and even in this;
death had no power over Him,
for death could not claim Him either in the physical or the spiritual.

How do we know this to be TRUE - follow your own Thread - JESUS told us HIMSELF

"No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again."

And having called out in a loud voice, Jesus said, "Father, into Your hands I commit My Spirit." And having said this, He breathed His last.

 

[DavidTree]

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Yes that is true regarding Israel worshipping False Gods as Savior, but he DID foretell who he would send as savior in Daniel and Isaiah!
Need me to quote those to you?

I have been posting the clear Scriptures of who Yehovah is from Isaiah - you reject them for they do not fit your agenda?

But please post all scriptures you wish from Daniel as well.

 

[InspiredByGod]

"The only death that CHRIST experienced was His physical death"
That's what I thought. He never really died.

Because, after all, you can't have the Trinity DYING!

 

[Laura798]

Not according to him!

IBG--you said: "Not According to Him."

Have you heard this saying, "All Fantacisim comes form the isolation of verses."

You seem to be fixated on certain verses while completely ignoring the other verses of scripture that clearly state Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit is God and the three are One. Scripture never says one thing and means another. You say 'not according to him' [Christ] You don't even believe He is the Christ as you said "or pretended to die". You cannot be a Christian and believe that. Why are you here on a Christian chat forum? It is okay if you are a Christian and have a different view point, however the only religion I know that says Jesus pretended to die is Islam.

You're attempt to influence any true Christian on this site, is like trying to dig a tunnel thru solid rock with a feather.

 

[InspiredByGod]

IBG--you said: "Not According to Him."

Have you heard this saying, "All Fantacisim comes form the isolation of verses."

You seem to be fixated on certain verses and completely ignoring the rest of scripture. Scripture never says one thing and means another. You say 'not according to him' [Christ] You don't even believe He is the Christ as you said "or pretended to die"--I take it from that --you can't be a Christian. Why are you here on a Christian chat forum? It is okay if you are a Christian and have a different view point, however the only religion I know that says Jesus pretended to die is Islam.

You're attempt to influence any true Christian on this site, is like trying to dig a tunnel thru solid rock with a feather.

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Laura, I just tell it like it IS!
They say Jesus DIED, and then they double-talk by saying he remained LIVING as and 'immortal' soul, taking the thief to heaven, and then preaching to them in 'Hell', then floating back into the corpse 3 days later!
Don't you SEE that?

Jesus told his disciples he was surrendering his very LIFE- church-goers say tat is was only the body!

 

[Laura798]

John 1:1- In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2- He was in the beginning with God;
3- all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.

Ex 7:1-And Jehovah said to Moses, See, I have made thee God to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. - Darby

Unless you think it really reads~ In the beginning was Jesus, and the Word was Jesus, and the Word was Jesus.

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age" (Matthew 28:18-20)

Do you see that? The NAME. Not the 'names'.

"Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son."--1st John 2:22

Note it says they deny both the Father and the Son--how do they do this? God said He is ONE. If you do not believe this then you are denying CHRIST--the centrality of the gospel is that Jesus was God who came as a man and died for the sins of the world.

(this is why we should never refer again to Jesus simply as Jesus with exception of his walk as a man on the earth--He is always now ruling and reigning at the right hand of the Father and is: Lord/Jesus Christ/Christ/ Lord Jesus Christ--never simply Jesus-- because that is the name of a man--leaving off Lord or Christ is like calling Queen Elizabeth by her given name, Elizabeth)

"The deity of Christ is the key doctrine of the scriptures. Reject it, and the Bible becomes a jumble of words without any unifying theme. Accept it, and the Bible becomes an intelligible and ordered revelation of God in the person of Jesus Christ.” J. Oswald Sanders